John Thng | 1 Jul 2007 08:47
P.V.Anthony | 1 Jul 2007 11:17
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[Fwd: Find out your hidden biases]

Got this from a friend. Really cool. The current test is on open-source 
and microsoft. Try it out. There are other test too.

P.V.Anthony

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Subject: 	Find out your hidden biases
Date: 	Tue, 03 Apr 2007 17:30:17 +0800
From: 	Ketan Shah <ketan@...>
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I saw this on the BBC.I havent tried it yet but it looks interesting. If
you go for the actual tests on the research page,you'll get a random
test each time that tests your biases about different things.They'll
also send you a report on your results. Each test takes 15 minutes.

Ketan

https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/

*_Project Implicit_*

Project Implicit blends basic research and educational outreach in a
virtual laboratory at which visitors can examine their own hidden
biases. Project Implicit is the product of research by three scientists
whose work produced a new approach to understanding of attitudes,
biases, and stereotypes.
The Project Implicit site (implicit.harvard.edu
<https://implicit.harvard.edu/>) has been functioning as a hands-on
science museum exhibit, allowing web visitors to experience the manner
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Harish Pillay | 2 Jul 2007 02:28
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Re: A swathe of questions, ISP, VOIP, Peering, Filtering

Joel -

Hi.  Not sure if anyone replied, but here's mine.

> I am in the process of moving into a flat on Sunday. And volunteered
> to sort out comms.
>
> I come from a heavy network architecture point of view, but need
> some recommendations from people here about the following.
>
> 1) ISP choice.
>
> So far I have established there are 5 ISP's (this is a tiny fraction of
> the number in NZ). And I am used to dealing with small Minoe ISP's
> and knowing people who run them. My choice of ISP generally
> depends on 3 things;
>
> 1) Actively Peer at Public Internet Exchanges, and are committed to
> improving global network infrastructure when they can
>
> 2) Offer personalised service, without 'valued added' crap (I.e I want
> a pipe, and maybe a /29 subnet, I can deal with a single static IP for
> the moment tho)
>
> 3) Quality of service is acceptable (I don't expect to have my ping
>  and RTS times fluctuate erratically in peak periods). I don't expect
> a 5 9 SLA either tho, so long as I can reach someone during outages
> who can not feed me bullshit lines as to the problem, I am happy
> sucking up for the outage window.
>
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Ow Mun Heng | 2 Jul 2007 03:41
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Re: [OT] Releasing Desktop Flickr Organizer for Gnome

On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 02:33 +0800, Shyam Mani wrote:
> On 6/29/07, Manish Rai Jain <manishrjain@...> wrote:
> 
> > I rarely post anything over in this list, but thought you guys might be
> > interested in this. Enjoy!
> 
> Manish,
> 
> Thanks for the info, I'll surely give it a whirl and let you know :)
> 

Hmm.. I was just using it yesterday after battling with juploaR (which
is nice and good, but doesn't offer the capability to DL/sync the
pictures from Flickr)

I then saw flickrfs, (which I initially thought was in gentoo portage
(supposed to have gotten included on Jun 24 but a sync later still
didn't see it)

Downloaded version 0.3.1 and ran w/o any issues. Ran into some troubles
and wanted to send some feedback, (marred by the need to register into
google(can't remember my gmail acc user/pass) but didn't.

Anyway.. since you're posting here.. here's my 2 cents. (I would love to
debug it for you, but this thing runs on mono, which is uncharted
territory for me)

1. No intuitive was to add new tags to pictures. (after meddling around,
I found out that I can just directly type in a new tag in the "edit"
box. DUH!)
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Bong Fadriquela | 2 Jul 2007 04:02
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Re: MS Office 2007 & XM

On 6/29/07, Mark Philip <markjohnphilip@...> wrote:

>
> Thankfully, I was able to open the DOCX files using NeoOffice, but PPTX
> remains un-openable (is there such a word?).
>

Thankfully, M$ released a compatibility pack for the older M$ offices.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=941b3470-3ae9-4aee-8f43-c6bb74cd1466#QuickInfoContainer

In that way, you are not forced to upgrade to the new Office version.
...and in case you want an upgrade, install OO 2.2.x., so you don't
bother re-learning the new UI of M$ Office 2007.

Cheers!

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Joel Wiramu Pauling | 2 Jul 2007 05:09
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Re: [OT] Releasing Desktop Flickr Organizer for Gnome

On Mon, 02 Jul 2007, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

> Let me know if I can help.

I use Digikam, it's flickr support is ok and improving.

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Ow Mun Heng | 2 Jul 2007 05:30
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Re: [OT] Releasing Desktop Flickr Organizer for Gnome

On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 11:09 +0800, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Jul 2007, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> 
> > Let me know if I can help.
> 
> 
> I use Digikam, it's flickr support is ok and improving.

* media-gfx/digikam
  Available versions:  0.7.4-r1 0.8.2-r1 ~0.9.0 0.9.1
  Homepage:            http://www.digikam.org/
  Description:         A digital photo management application for KDE.

Hmm.. I'm a gnome person.. wonder what are it's dependencies 

[ebuild  N    ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10 15,165 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-gfx/exiv2-0.13 2,776 kB
[ebuild     UD] virtual/glut-1.0 [3.7.1] 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/jasper-1.900.1-r1 1,383 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/libkipi-0.1.4 533 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/libkexiv2-0.1.1 417 kB
[ebuild  N    ] kde-base/kamera-3.5.5 7,163 kB
[ebuild  N    ] kde-base/kgamma-3.5.5 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-gfx/digikam-0.9.1 6,623 kB

Wow.. That's a lot of dependencies.. No way then..(TM anyway)

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Manish Rai Jain | 2 Jul 2007 05:43
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Re: [OT] Releasing Desktop Flickr Organizer for Gnome

Hi Om,

Thanks for bringing up the issues. My replies are inlined.

On 7/2/07, Ow Mun Heng <Ow.Mun.Heng-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org > wrote:
On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 02:33 +0800, Shyam Mani wrote:
> On 6/29/07, Manish Rai Jain < manishrjain-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > I rarely post anything over in this list, but thought you guys might be
> > interested in this. Enjoy!
>
> Manish,
>
> Thanks for the info, I'll surely give it a whirl and let you know :)
>

Hmm.. I was just using it yesterday after battling with juploaR (which
is nice and good, but doesn't offer the capability to DL/sync the
pictures from Flickr)

I then saw flickrfs, (which I initially thought was in gentoo portage
(supposed to have gotten included on Jun 24 but a sync later still
didn't see it)

Downloaded version 0.3.1 and ran w/o any issues. Ran into some troubles
and wanted to send some feedback, (marred by the need to register into
google(can't remember my gmail acc user/pass) but didn't.

Anyway.. since you're posting here.. here's my 2 cents. (I would love to
debug it for you, but this thing runs on mono, which is uncharted
territory for me)

1. No intuitive was to add new tags to pictures. (after meddling around,
I found out that I can just directly type in a new tag in the "edit"
box. DUH!)

You can click on "Tags" tab, and easily drag n drog photos  to add tags to them. Similarly, you can easily drag drop photos to the 'Flames Window' to remove tags. Other than that, you can do multiple photos tag editing.

2. Syncs w/ flickr is not real-time(?) eg: I upload picture to flickr,
upload is successful. (shows up in the flickr website), but not in DFO.
Do a sync again, still no new uploaded pics. Shutdown (entirely) and
restart a couple of times, even to the extend of deleting
the .desktopflickr directory and re-syncing again. Works maybe half the
time. (IIRC)

The reason it doesn't show up is because of flickr apis' responses slowness. They take easily upto half an hour to catch up with updates. Especially new uploaded photos can even take more than that, to show up in the 'retrieve stream' api. I've asked them couple of times if they're working upon that, but seems like this is just something we've to get used to. The edits done to photos, may also show similar glitches, but give it enough time, and it would show you the expected results.

Also keep seeing a (known) mono bug?

(DesktopFlickrOrganizer.exe:14948): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to set text
from markup due to error parsing markup: Unknown tag 'a' on line 2 char
100

This was a bug with Pango, and has been fixed in v0.4.

3. No way to resize the Window size. (this is bad for ppl w/ small
screen sizes. I work on 1280x1024 / 1440x1050 / 1680x1050 screen sizes
so it's still bearable for me. (else it would mean dragging left/right)

Fixed in v0.4. The new version also "remembers", the resizing done to the window by you.

4. The Upload photos option can be made better. (current gnome file-menu
has deficiency in that it offers no preview/thumbnail mode so you can
see what you want to upload in the dialog box. Would like to have
another box much like the "Drag photos here to remove from
set/permanently" and one can have a  nautilus (with preview) enabled in
another window to drag/drop.

Good idea, I'll add the feature in the next version.

5. Still way much better than fireuploader. (though lacks in comparison
to juploadR due to the drag/drop interface)

Great.

6. Is there a preference to do the photo resizing?

No, it currently uploads the original size of the photo. This is something the later versions would allow though.

BTW, great piece of application, even with all the above items. Since I
just hate dealing with the website, even if it's like AJAX'ified as it's
slow and counter-intuitive.

Let me know if I can help.

Thanks a lot for offering, would surely let you know if I do. Btw, the new version also comes with a 'Pool' tab, so you can easily drag-drop add/remove photos from Group pools.


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Ow Mun Heng | 2 Jul 2007 05:57
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Re: [OT] Releasing Desktop Flickr Organizer for Gnome

On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 11:43 +0800, Manish Rai Jain wrote:
> Hi Om,

Ow actually
> 
> Thanks for bringing up the issues. My replies are inlined.
> 
> On 7/2/07, Ow Mun Heng <Ow.Mun.Heng@...> wrote:
>         1. No intuitive was to add new tags to pictures. (after
>         meddling 
> 
> You can click on "Tags" tab, and easily drag n drog photos  to add
> tags to them. Similarly, you can easily drag drop photos to the
> 'Flames Window' to remove tags. Other than that, you can do multiple
> photos tag editing. 

Yep that was nice. The thing I was complaining about is actually a user
issue. (meaning, user is expecting to click on something to add a (new
and not already in the existing tags, so no drag/drop to do) tag to an
existing photo. 

Ended up, one can actually just TYPE it into the box.

> 
>         2. Syncs w/ flickr is not real-time(?) eg: I upload picture
>         to 
> 
> The reason it doesn't show up is because of flickr apis' responses
> slowness. They take easily upto half an hour to catch up with updates.
> Especially new uploaded photos can even take more than that, to show
> up in the 'retrieve stream' api. I've asked them couple of times if
> they're working upon that, but seems like this is just something we've
> to get used to. The edits done to photos, may also show similar
> glitches, but give it enough time, and it would show you the expected
> results. 
> 

I went through your code (from svn) and noticed the workarounds and the
complaints you made in your comments and then I understood your
predicament.

> Also keep seeing a (known) mono bug?
>         
>         (DesktopFlickrOrganizer.exe:14948): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to
> 
> This was a bug with Pango, and has been fixed in v0.4. 

Just tried V0.4. Better..
> 
> 
>         3. No way to resize the Window size. (this is bad for ppl w/ 
> 
> Fixed in v0.4. The new version also "remembers", the resizing done to
> the window by you.

Cool.. (nit pick, the DELETE box, can be made smaller so as not to cause
the rest of the icons to become drop-down box. Since there's not many
icons altogether, would prefer everything to be view-able

> Thanks a lot for offering, would surely let you know if I do. Btw, the
> new version also comes with a 'Pool' tab, so you can easily drag-drop
> add/remove photos from Group pools.

Cool.. Looking good all the time..

BTW, as FYI, tried on windows, doesn't work. (Do I need the mono
libraries on WIndoww? I'm sure (I think) I have the dotnet libraries
installed.

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Manish Rai Jain | 2 Jul 2007 06:25
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Re: [OT] Releasing Desktop Flickr Organizer for Gnome



On 7/2/07, Ow Mun Heng <Ow.Mun.Heng-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 11:43 +0800, Manish Rai Jain wrote:
> Hi Om,

Ow actually
>
> Thanks for bringing up the issues. My replies are inlined.
>
> On 7/2/07, Ow Mun Heng < Ow.Mun.Heng-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>         1. No intuitive was to add new tags to pictures. (after
>         meddling
>
> You can click on "Tags" tab, and easily drag n drog photos  to add
> tags to them. Similarly, you can easily drag drop photos to the
> 'Flames Window' to remove tags. Other than that, you can do multiple
> photos tag editing.

Yep that was nice. The thing I was complaining about is actually a user
issue. (meaning, user is expecting to click on something to add a (new
and not already in the existing tags, so no drag/drop to do) tag to an
existing photo.

Ended up, one can actually just TYPE it into the box.

hehe.. ;)

>
>         2. Syncs w/ flickr is not real-time(?) eg: I upload picture
>         to
>
> The reason it doesn't show up is because of flickr apis' responses
> slowness. They take easily upto half an hour to catch up with updates.
> Especially new uploaded photos can even take more than that, to show
> up in the 'retrieve stream' api. I've asked them couple of times if
> they're working upon that, but seems like this is just something we've
> to get used to. The edits done to photos, may also show similar
> glitches, but give it enough time, and it would show you the expected
> results.
>

I went through your code (from svn) and noticed the workarounds and the
complaints you made in your comments and then I understood your
predicament.

> Also keep seeing a (known) mono bug?
>
>         (DesktopFlickrOrganizer.exe:14948): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to
>
> This was a bug with Pango, and has been fixed in v0.4 .

Just tried V0.4. Better..
>
>
>         3. No way to resize the Window size. (this is bad for ppl w/
>
> Fixed in v0.4. The new version also "remembers", the resizing done to
> the window by you.

Cool.. (nit pick, the DELETE box, can be made smaller so as not to cause
the rest of the icons to become drop-down box. Since there's not many
icons altogether, would prefer everything to be view-able

> Thanks a lot for offering, would surely let you know if I do. Btw, the
> new version also comes with a 'Pool' tab, so you can easily drag-drop
> add/remove photos from Group pools.

Cool.. Looking good all the time..

BTW, as FYI, tried on windows, doesn't work. (Do I need the mono
libraries on WIndoww? I'm sure (I think) I have the dotnet libraries
installed.

One easy reason I can think of is the usage of GConf. Haven't tried on windows myself yet, something in store for future though.
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