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Simon Morris | 1 Dec 2003 08:30

[OT] Blackberries (was Re: Mozilla Address Book)


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Are these any good?

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Not bad at all. This one is provided by the company I'm currently working
for so I can't comment about the expense of running an individual one.

The only issue I have is that hitting reply results in an automatic top
post with the original message not editable!

A sane mailing list posting requires a copy n paste and some manual
(retarded) quoting tricks.

The signature that you quoted is server generated.

Battery life about 2 days and you can receive mail wherever you can get a
GSM/GPRS reception.

The new version has a colour screen, built in voice capability, and a 3rd
party telnet/ssh client which will be very handy. (Access to
mutt/bitchx/links etc)
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Ian Scott | 1 Dec 2003 09:04
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Re: OT: Copyright and Snow Balls


> 
>  It's all over the TV news, some artist got a settlement out of court with
>  Habitat, because they used his "idea" on an ad campaign.
> 
>  This idea being putting something inside a snow ball, he got 70K because
>  Habitat was accused of suggesting he was backing up their products,
>  They had an ad with 2 chairs sticking out of a semi-melted snow ball.

Hmm. I guess this depends how close it was to his stuff.  If they used fried
egg watches, or a lobster telephone I reckon Dali could have a pretty strong
case that they'd nicked his work. And I kind of like the idea that you don't
need to be superbly well known to win this sort of case.

> 
>  What next? I can say it is my idea to wear trainers and a kilt, and wait
>  until some clothes chain comes up with something similar.. and then sue.
> 
I think you need to produce art in this vein and get it exhibited somewhere.

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Richard Jones | 1 Dec 2003 10:33
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Re: OT: Copyright and Snow Balls

On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 08:04:20AM +0000, Ian Scott wrote:
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> > 
> >  It's all over the TV news, some artist got a settlement out of court with
> >  Habitat, because they used his "idea" on an ad campaign.
> > 
> >  This idea being putting something inside a snow ball, he got 70K because
> >  Habitat was accused of suggesting he was backing up their products,
> >  They had an ad with 2 chairs sticking out of a semi-melted snow ball.
> 
> Hmm. I guess this depends how close it was to his stuff.  If they used fried
> egg watches, or a lobster telephone I reckon Dali could have a pretty strong
> case that they'd nicked his work. And I kind of like the idea that you don't
> need to be superbly well known to win this sort of case.

I'm sorry, but when was it that copyright started applying to ideas,
rather than the literal printed word?

This is lawyers extending copyright in directions far beyond how it
was supposed to apply, and judges and lawmakers unfortunately agreeing
with them, nothing else.

Rich.

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wendy carr | 1 Dec 2003 10:40
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DNS and SMTP Problem

Hi All,
I have converted my office Internet connectivity from
ISDN to Broadband recently. The linux clients on the
network cannot send emails but able to down load
emails from the POP server.I am using one static IP
and use ISP's DNS.
I am getting broadband from an ISP different to the
one hosting my email server and web server.Could this
be the problem? do i have to transfer the email/web
hosting to the broadband ISP ?Running my own email/web
server is my ultimate goal.Any idea?

Cheers

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Daniel P. Berrange | 1 Dec 2003 10:55

Re: [Fwd: Server]

On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 01:05:16PM +0000, Nix wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Richard Jones moaned:
> [on reiserfs]
> > The design of the filesystem (ie. without blocks) pretty much ensures
> > that any corruption can't be recovered manually.
> 
> Er, reiserfs has blocks; even reiserfs4 has blocks.
> 
> Sure, tail packing means that the ends of multiple files can be squashed
> together in a single block, but that's hardly radical: I mean, even FFS
> does it!
> 
> (The tree layout makes it tricky to recover, though.)

Tricky to recover is one thing - but the sheer stupidity of the recovery
tools is what really finished reiserfs off for me. 

My entire machine hung Oracle was loading a schema, no problem I thought, 
I'll just reboot - the worst that could happen is that I'll corrupt
the data files & have to restore my DB from the previous day's exports.

Oh how wrong I was :-( The reiser integrity check & automatic recovery
failed upon boot up, telling me to run the reiser equiv of fsck. When
I ran that I printed a huge warning saying this problem was not to
be trusted! Then during 'recovery' it printed a tonne of messages
about unattached subtrees, however, rather than attaching all these
subtrees to 'lost+found' like any sensible UNIX filesystem it simply
discarded them for good. The result was I basically lost the entirity
of /usr/X11, /usr/lib, /usr/local and /var & had to rebuild from 
scratch. A file system & recovery tools that can cause that much damage
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Martin A. Brooks | 1 Dec 2003 10:59
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Re: DNS and SMTP Problem

On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 09:40, wendy carr wrote:
> Hi All,
> I have converted my office Internet connectivity from
> ISDN to Broadband recently. The linux clients on the
> network cannot send emails

Do you have an SMTP server?

> I am getting broadband from an ISP different to the
> one hosting my email server and web server.Could this
> be the problem? do i have to transfer the email/web
> hosting to the broadband ISP ?Running my own email/web
> server is my ultimate goal.Any idea?

Well, I think we've extensively answered this question before.  You
_can_ host your own web and mail but, as said before, ADSL does not have
any kind of reasonable SLA, so you risk random outages of both web and
mail.

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Martin A. Brooks | 1 Dec 2003 11:05
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Re: [Fwd: Server]

On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 09:55, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> Reiserfs is like a car without brakes, side impact bars, or an airbag.

One that's made of chocolate, too.

Resier3 is a joke, reiser4 looks promising but it useless without the
repacker.

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Simon Morris | 1 Dec 2003 11:23

Re: DNS and SMTP Problem


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I have converted my office Internet connectivity from
ISDN to Broadband recently. The linux clients on the
network cannot send emails but able to down load
emails from the POP server.
[...]
I am getting broadband from an ISP different to the
one hosting my email server and web server.Could this
be the problem?
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I would guess so. From what you have said it sounds like your clients were
using your ISPs SMTP server to relay mails to the internet.

As you have change provider you are now connecting to the relay from a
different IP address, and you are being blocked due to relay restrictions.

Try changing your clients SMTP settings to either connect to your new
providers SMTP server, or provide your own.

SM
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Jason Clifford | 1 Dec 2003 11:23

Re: DNS and SMTP Problem

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, wendy carr wrote:

> ISDN to Broadband recently. The linux clients on the
> network cannot send emails but able to down load
> emails from the POP server.I am using one static IP
> and use ISP's DNS.
> I am getting broadband from an ISP different to the
> one hosting my email server and web server.Could this
> be the problem? do i have to transfer the email/web
> hosting to the broadband ISP ?Running my own email/web
> server is my ultimate goal.Any idea?

The first thing to check is the configuration of your local systems - what 
SMTP server are they sending email out through?

If it is not the one provided by your broadband ISP, are the clients 
configured to use authenticated SMTP?

If not they wont be able to send email via that server.

I would recommend either configuring your systems to use the broadband 
ISP's SMTP server or setting up a mail server locally to send email from.

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Dave van Zijl | 1 Dec 2003 11:36
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Re: DNS and SMTP Problem

--- wendy carr <wendy_carr2003 <at> yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >
I have converted my office Internet connectivity
> from
> ISDN to Broadband recently. The linux clients on the
> network cannot send emails but able to down load
> emails from the POP server.

Hang on, does this mean that windows clients are able
to send mail? If so then that means the following
definitely won't help:
Is the company hosting your mail also your old ISP? If
so then they're probably limiting the IP addresses
that are allowed to send mail through that box and now
that you're coming from a different IP it's blocking
you. Or are you getting any helpful error messages
when you try to send?

> I am using one static IP
> and use ISP's DNS.
> I am getting broadband from an ISP different to the
> one hosting my email server and web server.Could
> this
> be the problem? do i have to transfer the email/web
> hosting to the broadband ISP ?

I think if you can pop then the names are resolving so
probably nothing to do with DNS

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