Mahesh T. Pai | 1 Aug 2011 18:21
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Re: DSC Registration for efiling

Anand Shankar said on Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:17:42AM +0530,:

 > Have any of you done your income tax efiling with digital signature?

What is the cost of a signature authentication from a what-are-those-guys-called?

 > Strangely it asks you to register your digital signature certificate
 > (DSC) before you proceed.
 > That appears to be genuine that they want my CA certified Public Key
 > and digital signature.
 > 
 > What appears to be strange is that they are asking to upload the DSC
 > through a .pfx file or the usb token.
 > If u see the standards .pfx file is a pkcs12 file which contains the
 > public key as well as the private key!!
 > Am i wrong that innocent guys must have uploaded their private keys to
 > the income tax department?

Looks more like a case of misapplied standards - probably, non-free
apps on non-free OSes (obviously) do not comply with the standards. 

 > 
 > I wish to stand corrected.

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Anupam Jain | 1 Aug 2011 22:44
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Kamal Dave | 2 Aug 2011 09:50
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Re: DSC Registration for efiling

It is really strange that the income tax seeks the private key besides the
public.  This in effect nullifies authenticity vis-a-vis the whole concept
of digitally signing document/ e-return.  This issue should certainly be
raised with income tax officials.

Kamal Dave
Advocate

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Mahesh T. Pai <paivakil@...> wrote:

> Anand Shankar said on Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:17:42AM +0530,:
>
>  > Have any of you done your income tax efiling with digital signature?
>
> What is the cost of a signature authentication from a
> what-are-those-guys-called?
>
>  > Strangely it asks you to register your digital signature certificate
>  > (DSC) before you proceed.
>  > That appears to be genuine that they want my CA certified Public Key
>  > and digital signature.
>  >
>  > What appears to be strange is that they are asking to upload the DSC
>  > through a .pfx file or the usb token.
>  > If u see the standards .pfx file is a pkcs12 file which contains the
>  > public key as well as the private key!!
>  > Am i wrong that innocent guys must have uploaded their private keys to
>  > the income tax department?
>
> Looks more like a case of misapplied standards - probably, non-free
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H.S.Rai | 2 Aug 2011 12:30
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Re: DSC Registration for efiling

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Kamal Dave <kamal.dave.adv@...> wrote:
> This in effect nullifies authenticity vis-a-vis the whole concept
> of digitally signing document/ e-return.  This issue should certainly be
> raised with income tax officials.

Don't you think news in paper will be more effective than dealing with
official of IT department?

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Shayon Pal | 2 Aug 2011 13:04
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Re: DSC Registration for efiling

If any of you wish you write a feature on the same, I am willing to publish
it on Hindustan Times.

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On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:00 PM, H.S.Rai <hardeep.rai@...> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Kamal Dave <kamal.dave.adv@...>
> wrote:
> > This in effect nullifies authenticity vis-a-vis the whole concept
> > of digitally signing document/ e-return.  This issue should certainly be
> > raised with income tax officials.
>
> Don't you think news in paper will be more effective than dealing with
> official of IT department?
>
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krish | 2 Aug 2011 14:14
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Re: DSC Registration for efiling

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Anand Shankar
<anandshankar.email@...> wrote:
> What appears to be strange is that they are asking to upload the DSC
> through a .pfx file or the usb token.
> If u see the standards .pfx file is a pkcs12 file which contains the
> public key as well as the private key!!
> Am i wrong that innocent guys must have uploaded their private keys to
> the income tax department?
>
> I wish to stand corrected.
>

Just took a closer look at
http://hcpldsc.com/IT%20returns%20pdf/IT%20Return%20Without%20E-Token.pdf
and it looks like although the private key is uploaded it still asks
for its passphrase ( shown with password dialog in pdf )

So, unless your private key isn't passphrase protected, you're really
giving it away.
I am still not comfortable to see that our key goes on that site;
unless they are flushing out all keys after filing / like 24 hours.
Any ideas anyone?

Hoping all DSC's, when created are passphrase protected ( I see a
password written on my USB token :D ) and I'm sure everyone in my CA's
office knows my token password.  FacePunch :X

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Anand Shankar | 2 Aug 2011 20:25
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Re: DSC Registration for efiling

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 5:44 PM, krish  wrote:
>> If u see the standards .pfx file is a pkcs12 file which contains the
>> public key as well as the private key!!
>> Am i wrong that innocent guys must have uploaded their private keys to
>> the income tax department?
>>
>> I wish to stand corrected.
>>
>
> Just took a closer look at
> http://hcpldsc.com/IT%20returns%20pdf/IT%20Return%20Without%20E-Token.pdf
> and it looks like although the private key is uploaded it still asks
> for its passphrase ( shown with password dialog in pdf )

Thats a good illustration of using a .pfx file for DSC registration.

But come on, all that encrypted keys are being taken as secure with a
simple password acting as the watchguard !! We all are too familiar
with the secure password keeping and the simple default passwords kept
by so many.

I still do not believe that a Private Key needs to be uploaded in any case.

There is still something missing because Department of Income Tax has
also published a writeup for registering DSCs.

https://incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in/portal/downloads10-11/itr/"Procedure
for Registration of Digital Signature and Upload of Income Tax Returns
using Digital Signature.pdf"

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Jack Norman III | 2 Aug 2011 22:56

Puppet Labs In India

Hi Guys,
My name is Jack and I work for Puppet Labs here in Portland Oregon! 
We are going to be hosting a Puppet 
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Swapnil Bhartiya | 6 Aug 2011 20:54
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The World's Easiest Arch Linux Manual

Hi,

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