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Vaibhav Singh | 1 Mar 2007 20:40
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FC6 rpm command problem

hello members,
i have a few questons to ask.

1. i have recently installed fc6 on my friends system.the problem arises
when i m trying to add repositries or use any other rpm command containing a
URL.
    i can download stuff using wget so i dont think the problem is with the
terminal using a proxy connection.
     rpm -ivh
http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/fedora/linux/6/freshrpms-release/freshrpms-release-1.1-1.fc.noarch.rpm

      Retrieving
http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/fedora/linux/6/freshrpms-release/freshrpms-release-1.1-1.fc.noarch.rpm
      error: skipping
http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/fedora/linux/6/freshrpms-release/freshrpms-release-1.1-1.fc.noarch.rpm-
transfer failed - Unknown or unexpected error
      warning: _url_cache[0] 0x8c7f340 nrefs(1284972991) != 1 ( )

2. when i m trying to install any package either by using add remove
software or yum,it gives a message unable to resolve dependencies and lists
all the depdencies
    how can make these dependecies install automatically as in
SYNAPTIC(UBUNTU)

3. could you please suggest which repositries are good for fc6?
   livna,freshrpms etc..

Regards,
Vaibhav Singh
Department of Electronics and Communication
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Karanbir Singh | 2 Mar 2007 03:15

Re: FC6 rpm command problem

Vaibhav Singh wrote:
> hello members,
> i have a few questons to ask.
> 
> 1. i have recently installed fc6 on my friends system.the problem arises
> when i m trying to add repositries or use any other rpm command containing a
> URL.
>     i can download stuff using wget so i dont think the problem is with the
> terminal using a proxy connection.
>      rpm -ivh
> http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/fedora/linux/6/freshrpms-release/freshrpms-release-1.1-1.fc.noarch.rpm
> 
>       Retrieving
> http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/fedora/linux/6/freshrpms-release/freshrpms-release-1.1-1.fc.noarch.rpm
>       error: skipping
> http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/fedora/linux/6/freshrpms-release/freshrpms-release-1.1-1.fc.noarch.rpm-
> transfer failed - Unknown or unexpected error
>       warning: _url_cache[0] 0x8c7f340 nrefs(1284972991) != 1 ( )

think I know why this is happening...

> 
> 2. when i m trying to install any package either by using add remove
> software or yum,it gives a message unable to resolve dependencies and lists
> all the depdencies
>     how can make these dependecies install automatically as in
> SYNAPTIC(UBUNTU)

what problems do you get ? can you do the yum install and past the 
output here into an email ?
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Karanbir Singh | 2 Mar 2007 03:36

Re: deb vs. rpm

Hi Manoj,

I am not sure what brought about this comparison.... so will refrain 
from being overly verbose..

Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>         It might be instructive to compare package file formats on a
>  purely technical level: http://kitenet.net/~joey/pkg-comp/
>  This is a fairly authoritative document, and well worth understanding.

good read indeed.

> 
>         Here follows commentary on the major points of difference oj
>  just the rpm and deb format (please read the URL for details
>  regarding other package formats).
> 
>  1) Data unpack-able by standard tools, meta-data accessible by
>     standard tools, and ability to create a .deb with standard (non
>     distribution specific) tools: .debs are just ar archives of
>     tar-balls, and can be unpackaged, inspected, and created using cp,
>     chmod, ar and tar.  rpm's need a special tool.  Now, why is this
>     important at all?  Well, think of a classified environment, where
>     you do not want to rely on the packaged tool to help you with
>     forensics; but you have a trusted solaris box.

rpm's are cpio achieves, its easy to yank the payload out ( but yes, 
much of the metadata and header-non-payload is lost ).
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Manoj Srivastava | 2 Mar 2007 08:05
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Re: deb vs. rpm

On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:36:14 +0000, Karanbir Singh  said: 

>> 1) Data unpack-able by standard tools, meta-data accessible by
>> standard tools, and ability to create a .deb with standard (non
>> distribution specific) tools: .debs are just ar archives of
>> tar-balls, and can be unpackaged, inspected, and created using cp,
>> chmod, ar and tar.  rpm's need a special tool.  Now, why is this
>> important at all?  Well, think of a classified environment, where
>> you do not want to rely on the packaged tool to help you with
>> forensics; but you have a trusted solaris box.

> rpm's are cpio achieves, its easy to yank the payload out ( but yes,
> much of the metadata and header-non-payload is lost ).

        Well. It also means the scripts run can not be easily accessed
 using standard POSIX tools -- since they live in the metadata that is
 lost. 

>> 4) Debian packages may run binaries at install and un-install
>>    times. I am not sure if this is a major plus.

> is this like the %pre , %post, %preun and %postun scripts in a rpm ?

        yes. But since they must live in a spec file, they are
 restricted to being scripts.  If I want some binary to be executed at
 the preinstall phase (before the rest of the data segment has been
 unpacked, or in the postrm stage (where most of the package is gone),
 and these binaries do not exist on the target system, I can do so
 with a .deb package format, since the maintainer scripts are external
 files, and can be statically linked binaries.
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Sudev Barar | 1 Mar 2007 07:08
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Loading Linux on X series ThinkPad

I am likely to get a IBM X series thinkpad laptop. These laptop's do
not have built in cdrom drives but my assumption is that I should be
able to connect a USB CDROM drive and load O/S from there as most of
th BIOS now allow booting off USB drives.
Anyone who can confirm this?

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Karanbir Singh | 3 Mar 2007 01:18

Re: Loading Linux on X series ThinkPad

Sudev Barar wrote:
> I am likely to get a IBM X series thinkpad laptop. These laptop's do
> not have built in cdrom drives but my assumption is that I should be
> able to connect a USB CDROM drive and load O/S from there as most of
> th BIOS now allow booting off USB drives.
> Anyone who can confirm this?
> 

network boot should be an option... if not, depending on what its 
running, you can use the existing bootloader to boot into an installer.

also, btw what X series is it ? :) those are good laptops...

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G. Palaniappan | 3 Mar 2007 04:04

Re: Loading Linux on X series ThinkPad


>
> Subject:
> [ilugd] Loading Linux on X series ThinkPad
> From:
> "Sudev Barar" <sbarar@...>
> Date:
> Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:38:48 +0530
>
>
> I am likely to get a IBM X series thinkpad laptop. These laptop's do
> not have built in cdrom drives but my assumption is that I should be
> able to connect a USB CDROM drive and load O/S from there as most of
> th BIOS now allow booting off USB drives.
> Anyone who can confirm this?
Yes I have installed Linux on my X-40 laptop using USB DVD/CD Writer 
combo drive.  My X-40 is dual booting Windows XP and Linux.

Regards,
G. Palaniappan
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Mr tirveni yadav | 3 Mar 2007 10:34
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patent law change

Hi,

An editorial pubished in Indian Express(February 24,
2007) related to patents by Saubhik Chakrabarti

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/24041.html

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Gora Mohanty | 3 Mar 2007 22:45
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ILUG-Delhi meeting organisation

Hello,
  Two points about the next ILUG-Delhi meeting. The scheduled date of
the 3rd Sunday, the 18th of March, puts us in conflict with two events
that at least partially involve free software: At RKGIT, Ghaziabad, and,
at Jamia Milia Islamia. (As an aside to people who have asked for
ILUG-Delhi involvement in these events, you need to post details about
the events now.) So, I propose that the next meeting be
held on the fourth Sunday instead, i.e., the 25th. The tentative venue
is NSIT, Dwarka, with JNU, and Sarai, being fallbacks.

  The other interesting idea, courtesy Mary (no, he is still not a
girl), is that now that we have some funds available, ILUG-Delhi should
provide transportation from a central location to the meeting venue; say
from Connaught Place, which is accessible via the Metro, and via bus,
from various places. I would argue that we should only do this for
venues that are not easily accessible by the Metro (so, JNU would
qualify for arranged transportation, but not NSIT or Sarai). Another
possibility is that ILUG-Delhi pays for (subsidised) transport from
any location that has a guaranteed minimum number of participants,
say RKGIT, or Jamia, provided that people commit ahead of time. Views
on all this are most welcome.

Regards,
Gora

P.S.   It is not too early to suggest agenda items for the meeting.
P.P.S. Kapil Dua, this means *you*.

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Nishikant Kapoor | 3 Mar 2007 22:53

Latest version of ILUG-D web site released

Dear friends,

First, apologies for cross posting.

I am very pleased to announce the newest release of ILUG-D web site. The
main highlights include personalized (a) laypout of the home page, (b)
selection of news channels, and (c) setting reminders. Spam protection using
CAPTCHA in most form submissions, enhanced Pictures gallery, and a
better overall integration are some of the other major changes.

BUT, there is a problem. I have not been able to install it at the
original ILUG-D site, as I am running into some incompatibility issues
with mySQL version. I developed the upgrade using mySQL 4.x, whereas
ILUG-D site has 3.x. I could have waited till the issue was resolved,
but I decided to go ahead anyway. So, when you visit the ILUG-D site,
you will be re-directed to another location where the newer version is
installed. I realize that it may not sit well with many of us, but I
wanted to use this opportunity to gather your feedback, and be ready for when 
the original site is available.

Regards,
Nishi
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