David | 21 Jun 18:44 2016

Re: Connochaetos

 I would suggest that only those running the project should make such a
 submission. The likelihood is that there was some issue with elements
 of the distribution so unless the person submitting it here would be
 able, and have the authority, to make changes to the distribution such
 a third party submission would not be helpful.

> Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Connochaetos

> On 06/20/16 13:57, Henry Jensen wrote:

> ^ I suggest someone resubmit for them. Help a brother out, ya know? :)

Thiago Zoroastro | 20 Jun 03:23 2016

Could I use BLAG to substitute CentOS for RHCE?

What does FSF and GNU project's thoughts about Certifications in Free Software and Linux?
Could some Computing Schools to be FSF Certified?
There are some GNU page about thoughts on Certifications?
Thank you and have niiice days!
Thiago Zoroastro | 20 Jun 01:07 2016


Hi everyone there, how are you?
I discovered and downloaded it today[0] though I am not a Slack user yet, tried in 2008.
I don't see Connochaetos in Free Distros availables.[1]
Why would be without of there? See he's 2014 date, it's time to add because this is GNU+Linux OS.
Could someone tell me if what I am saying is correct?
Thank you for reading my NO INTENDED wrong english if it is in some paragraph.
[0] https://connochaetos.org/
[1] https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
coadde | 16 Jun 06:56 2016

Add more information for OS and Distributions

Can you change "Mint GNU/Linux" to "GNU/Linux Mint"[0]?

Can you check and add (if are nonfree) distributions and OS list in the
"Explaining Why We Don't Endorse Other Systems" website[1]?:

Ångström GNU/Linux (http://angstrom-distribution.org/)
Amazon FireOS [Android]
Apache Mynewt OS (https://mynewt.incubator.apache.org/)
Arch GNU/Linux ARM (https://archlinuxarm.org/)
Arch GNU/Hurd (http://www.archhurd.org/)
AOKP [Android] (http://www.aokp.co/)
AROS (http://aros.sourceforge.net/)
Baidu Yi [Android] (http://yi.baidu.com/pc)
Chrome OS GNU/Linux (https://www.google.com/chromebook/)
Chromium OS GNU/Linux (http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os)
ColorOS [Android] (http://www.oppo.com/en/coloros/)
Contiki (http://www.contiki-os.org/)
COS GNU/Linux (http://www.china-cos.com/)
Darwin (https://opensource.apple.com/)
Debian GNU/kFreeBSD (http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/)
Debian GNU/Hurd (http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/)
DreamShell (https://github.com/DC-SWAT/DreamShell)
FreeDOS (http://www.freedos.org/)
FreeRTOS (http://www.freertos.org/)
Fira OS [Android] (http://fira.id/intro/)
Firefox OS GNU/Linux (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/os/)
Gentoo/Alt (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Alt)
Gentoo/FreeBSD (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:FreeBSD)
Gentoo/OpenBSD (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:OpenBSD)
Illumos (http://wiki.illumos.org/display/illumos/illumos+Home)
Inferno (http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/)
KallistiOS (http://gamedev.allusion.net/softprj/kos/)
KolibriOS (http://kolibrios.org/en/)
LG WebOS GNU/Linux (http://www.openwebosproject.org/)
LuneOS GNU/Linux (http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Main_Page)
Maemo GNU/Linux (http://maemo.org/)
Mageia GNU/Linux (http://www.mageia.org/en/)
Manjaro GNU/Linux (https://manjaro.github.io/)
Meizu Flyme OS [Android] (http://www.flymeos.com/)
MenuetOS (http://www.menuetos.net/)
Mer (http://merproject.org/)
Minix (http://www.minix3.org/)
MIUI [Android] (http://en.miui.com/)
MorphOS (http://www.morphos-team.net/)
OpenELEC GNU/Linux (http://openelec.tv/)
OpenIndiana [Illumos] (http://www.openindiana.org/)
Openmoko GNU/Linux (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page)
OPhone/OMS [Android] (http://www.ophonesdn.com/)
Pac FreeBSD - based Arch (the GNU/Linux distribution)
Plan 9 (http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/)
RIOT (http://www.riot-os.org/)
RTEMS (https://www.rtems.org/)
Sailfish OS GNU/Linux (https://sailfishos.org/)
SHR GNU/Linux (http://shr-project.org/trac)
Smeegol GNU/Linux (https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Goblin)
OpenWRT GNU/Linux (https://openwrt.org/)
Oracle GNU/Linux (https://www.oracle.com/linux/index.html)
Oracle Solaris (https://www.oracle.com/solaris/solaris11/index.html)
OxygenOS [Android] (https://oneplus.net/global/2/oxygenos)
Syllable Desktop [Syllable OS] (http://web.syllable.org/Syllable/index.html)
Syllable Server GNU/Linux (http://web.syllable.org/Linux/index.html)
Tivo GNU/Linux (https://www.tivo.com/legal/opensource/linux)
Tizen GNU/Linux (https://www.tizen.org/)
Xinu (http://www.xinu.cs.purdue.edu/)
Zorin OS GNU/Linux (http://zorinos.com/)

BSD systems:
DragonFly BSD (https://www.dragonflybsd.org/)
FreeBSD (https://www.freebsd.org/)
NetBSD (https://netbsd.org/)
NextBSD (http://www.nextbsd.org/)
OpenBSD (http://www.openbsd.org/)

Others OS (RTOS):
Atomthreads (http://atomthreads.com/)
BeRTOS (https://github.com/develersrl/bertos)
BrTOS (https://github.com/brtos/brtos)
CapROS (http://www.capros.org/)
Coyotos (http://www.coyotos.org/)
ChibiOS/RT (http://www.chibios.org/dokuwiki/doku.php)
distortos (http://distortos.org/)
dnx RTOS (http://www.dnx-rtos.org/)
DSP/BIOS (http://www.ti.com/tool/dspbios)
DuinOS (https://github.com/DuinOS/DuinOS)
eCos (http://ecos.sourceware.org/)
Femto OS (http://www.femtoos.org/)
FunkOS (https://sourceforge.net/projects/funkos/)
HybridThreads Project (http://hthreads.csce.uark.edu/wiki/About_Hthreads)
KeyKOS (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~KeyKOS/)
MaRTE OS (http://marte.unican.es/)
Mark3 (http://www.mark3os.com/)
Nano-RK (http://www.nano-rk.org/projects/nanork/wiki)
nOS (https://github.com/jimtremblay/nOS)
Nut/OS (http://www.ethernut.de/)
nuttX (http://www.nuttx.org/)
OSA (http://wiki.pic24.ru/doku.php/en/osa/ref/intro)
pico]OS (https://github.com/AriZuu/picoos)
Prex (http://prex.sourceforge.net/)
RT-Thread (http://www.rt-thread.org/en/)
ScmRTOS (http://scmrtos.sourceforge.net/ScmRTOS)
silRTOS (http://spanidea.com/products.php)
Simba (http://simba-os.readthedocs.io/en/latest/)
SIX-RTOS (http://bryndza.boff.pl/index.php?dz=rozne&id=isixrtos)
S.O.O.S (http://www.ingelec.uns.edu.ar/rts/soos/)
Stratify OS (http://stratifylabs.co/)
THEOS (http://www.theos-software.com/)
T-Kernel (http://www.t-engine.org/)
TI-RTOS (http://www.ti.com/tool/ti-rtos)
Trampoline (http://trampoline.rts-software.org/)
TRON project (http://www.tron.org/tron-project/)
TUD:OS (http://demo.tudos.org/eng_about.html)
uKOS (http://www.ukos.ch/)
Unison RTOS (http://rowebots.com/)
uSmartX (http://usmartx.sourceforge.net/)
µ-velOSity (http://www.ghs.com/products/micro_velosity.html)
Xenomai (http://xenomai.org/)
XMK (http://www.integerfox.com/xmk/)

André Silva | 10 Jun 02:49 2016

Re: unsubscribe

Are you trying to unsubscribe from the libreplanet mailing list? You
replied to me instead. You probably were looking for this link:

On 06/09/2016 09:25 PM,    Jim Kelly wrote:
> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:00 PM, André Silva <emulatorman <at> riseup.net>
> wrote:
> fyi
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Dev] [GNU-linux-libre] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New
> version for Parabola Social Contract
> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 20:53:11 -0300
> From: coadde <coadde@... <mailto:coadde@...>>
> To: Parabola Mail List <dev@...
> <mailto:dev@...>>
> On 06/09/2016 08:46 PM, André Silva wrote:
>> On 06/09/2016 08:08 PM, Riley Baird wrote:
>>>> Yes, you're right in that point, however Parabola is maintaining a good
>>>> relationship with FSF, GNU project and Richard Stallman too and they
>>>> insist we use 'Arch GNU/Linux' instead.
>>>> In some words, if we put in the Social Contract 'Arch Linux', we will
>>>> maintain a good relationship with Arch guys, if we put 'Arch GNU/Linux',
>>>> we will maintain a good relationship with FSF, GNU project and Richard
>>>> Stallman. What should we use? good question and big problem.
>>> What about "Arch (the GNU/Linux distribution)"?
>> +1 I agree with your suggestion because it solves this issue for the
>> Social Contract.
> +1

Koz Ross | 9 Jun 06:35 2016

How free can the snickerdoodle run?

I recently came across this on CrowdSupply:
https://www.crowdsupply.com/krtkl/snickerdoodle (link can be viewed without JS).
However, I am uncertain as to how free this thing can run. Specifically, I was
curious about the following:

a) Can this run a fully-free distro like Parabola or Trisquel?
b) If a), what functionality would be impeded by doing this (due to nonfree
drivers or whatever)?
c) If a) and b), can the Zynq 'configurable microprocessors' sitting on that
thing be programmed using free tools?

If anyone could let me know about these things, I would be extremely grateful.

Koz Ross <koz.ross@...>

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Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for why.

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Find out more at https://openwireless.org/

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Aaron Wolf | 8 Jun 07:10 2016

Distil Networks blocks entire websites if you protect privacy at all


I was going to a website and was redirected to a special page where I
have to request access because this security system is not letting me
even see the website at all. Yes, I run free software privacy plugins…

This is really shitty, and I'm not even figuring out how to get past it.
I don't know if it blacklisted my IP or just I don't have the right
combination of privacy tools turned off, but this is totally obnoxious.
I don't really even know how to find contact info for the website to
explain to them this terrible experience since I can't even get to the

This trend is super troubling. If a website buys into this company's
security claims and approach, they won't even likely get feedback well
and may not even recognize the problems.


Aaron Wolf
co-founder, Snowdrift.coop
music teacher, wolftune.com

Ali Razeen | 5 Jun 18:34 2016

Sign the petition for Intel to release an ME-less CPU design

Hello folks,

The people over at puri.sm (https://puri.sm) have created a petition to ask Intel to release an ME-less
version of their CPU. You can sign the petition here:
https://puri.sm/posts/petition-for-intel-to-release-an-me-less-cpu-design/ and I have
included the full text of the petition below. 

For those who are unaware, the Intel ME is a a separate “feature” implemented via hardware and software
on all modern Intel CPUs. It includes a custom operating system and has direct access to the hardware. It
can access the harddrive without being hindered by your operating system and it can send data out via the
network card. You can read more here: https://io.netgarage.org/me/ and http://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf

Please take some time to sign the petition. It’s quite possible that Intel just ignores it but maybe
it’s worth trying to sign it and get some voices heard inside Intel?

Here’s the petition text:

We, the users of Intel CPUs, petition Intel to release an “ME-less” CPU design for future CPUs.

Intel’s Management Engine (ME) is a threat to users’ digital rights. It is an unreadable binary file
that is cryptographically signed by Intel, requiring users to compromise their security, privacy, and
freedom because users must execute unknown and unverifiable code on the CPU.

I, the undersigned, request that Intel either release the source code under a free software license –
allowing users to sign their own Management Engine, or that Intel release an “ME-less” CPU design for
their CPUs.


Daniel Pocock | 5 Jun 18:34 2016

a free income for software developers?

Switzerland has just had a referendum on giving all citizens a free
basic income of about CHF 2,500 per month (equivalent to USD 2,500 per

Should countries consider a similar scheme, but exclusively for software
developers who create things at their own discretion under a free
license for the benefit of the whole economy?

Is anybody aware of any scheme or employment that approximates this
concept?  e.g. Google gives their staff 20% of their time to code a
project of their own choosing.

Patrick | 5 Jun 16:57 2016

suggestion/help. GPL enforcement.

Hi Everyone

This is a horrible post and will probably trigger some very negative 
reactions. I am trying to help and I am being honest so please don't get 
too angry at me.

I've tinkered with the BSD world and I really believe GPL and the Free 
Software foundation are the way to go. I have frustrations with the FSF 
in that it seems to focus too much on all the bad things others are 
doing and not enough on what good is being done but overall I don't 
think there is much of a choice and I want to make things work.

So to the point!

I have spent quite a bit of time thinking about how to circumvent the GPL.

The GPL puts people like me in a bad situation. I work with scientific 
instrumentation. It's a corner-case market but world-wide.

I would never just take GPL code and mis-license it. I will obey it. 
However the people that use the software in my corner-case market are 
spread across the world. I can't sue these people if they violate the 
GPL and so many of their Governments don't care about the GPL.

I am in Canada and I don't have the money to sue a company in Brazil but 
the Brazilian Government respects the GPL and there may be many 
countries outside of Europe/Australia/New Zealand/Korea/Japan and the 
Americas that do too. I just might not be aware of them.

Would it be possible for a GPL compatible license to be created that 
would forbid GPL software from being distributed to countries were the 
GPL was weakly/not enforced?

What is the point of granting the user the rights to freely distribute 
the code under the terms of the GPL if the code is distributed to 
locations were the GPL is not enforceable? It just becomes public domain 

Chinese people do not call China, China, they call it Zhongguo. It means 
centre of the world or middle kingdom. It's an arrogant name but can you 
really blame them or ask them to change it. Everyone was crazy 3000 
years ago.

I think that we in the "west" (including Japan/Korea/Australia etc) are 
arrogant too and have a mentality "centre of the world" too.

Who cared about China and India 20 or 30 years ago. If people there 
stole software, it didn't matter, they weren't important economically.

They are now and we need to update our views so that software licensing 
makes sense. We in the "west" are not the centre of the world anymore. 
We need a GPL compatible license that acknowledges the problems of 

The first problem I see with my suggestion, is that the FSF would have 
to create a list of GPL friendly countries and that could be hard.

Secondly if we were allowed to sue people who distributed GPL code 
outside of the enforcement territory, this would preclude the 
distribution of GPL code over public FTP and such.

Does anyone see my point? Is there anything that can be done so that I 
don't have to license code under the GPL and in doing so cast it into 
the Public Domain?


Fabio Pesari | 5 Jun 09:04 2016

What the free software community needs more than programs...



...is professionals from various fields (especially outside programming)
sharing their positive experiences with free software! We see a lot of
people on the Internet dissing programs like GIMP, LibreOffice and
GNU/Linux itself without offering any valid insights, but there are
plenty of people using it successfully in their careers.

Showing finished, professional and high-quality products made with free
software is undoubtedly the best way to convince people to try it. We
already know free software is used in countless products, but
non-activists rarely speak about it openly.

Of course, this means showcasing finished products that aren't
necessarily free themselves, but I think the positive aspects outweigh
the negative ones. I really hope OCS-Mag's initiative will continue and
that more people will adhere to it - programs like Blender, Audacity,
GNU Octave and Ardour have plenty of pro users which could use an interview!

Anyone out there has anything to share right now?