olavjunker | 1 Jul 11:15 2003
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Re: Dave Wiener confirms XML-RPC allows unicode strings

> some comments on http://olav.dk/unirpc/faq.html:

Thanks for the comments, but i think my FAQ is superflous now.
There is still a lot of issues concerning the spec, but i think 
Fredrik Lundhs errata http://www.effbot.org/zone/xmlrpc-errata.htm
covers it.

Basically, it is clear now that XML-RPC is XML. Therefore a XML-RPC 
server MUST be able to handle UTF8. Of course the *application* might 
not be able to handle the full range of unicode characters, but I 
thik it follows that the stack or application MUST return an XML-RPC 
error response ("characters outside of acceptable range" or something 
like that), NOT just break or silently mangle the data.

Olav Junker Kjær

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webmaster | 1 Jul 16:44 2003
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I am getting an error msxml3.dll error '80072ee7' in the send statement, when i try to post the XML document
to a different webserver.

Thanx in advance for any suggestions or solutions.

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webmaster | 1 Jul 20:19 2003
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New Message: Re: In progress: Subscriptions harmonizer

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By: Michael Bernstein (webmaven <at> lvcm.com)

The setup verb seems redundant. Could you use the subscribe verb initially instead? They seem equivalent,
as the subscribe verb needs to account for a use case where the array is initially empty anyway.

The startup verb seems misnamed. How about something like getsubs?

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webmaster | 1 Jul 21:37 2003
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By: Mark Fletcher (markf <at> bloglines.com)

Besides syncing subscriptions between aggregators, it seems that you'd also want to sync which items in
each feed have already been read. I'm not sure exactly what an easy to use interface to do that would look
like, however.

With all that information, you've created most of the backend for a server-based aggregator. Which I don't
think is a bad thing. In fact I just launched such a beast: www.bloglines.com

;-)

Mark

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webmaster | 1 Jul 21:48 2003
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By: Steven Garrity (steven <at> actsofvolition.com)

I would love to see this happen. I would also like to see a downloadable file that could be imported/exported
by any supporting aggregators.

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webmaster | 1 Jul 23:06 2003
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By: michael mceniry (mmceniry <at> itsc.uah.edu)

Keeping just a list of feeds reminds me of Netscape Navigator's server-stored bookmark feature. I think it
used LDAP. It also sounds like a blogroll sorta, which some folks already publish in RSS. Maybe the
harmonizer service could publish the list as RSS, and aggregators could "import" subscriptions from RSS.

Of course, there's still the problem of *updating* the list. It might be nice to provide both an XML-RPC
interface for an aggregator and an HTML interface for a human with a browser (for those
away-from-my-aggregator moments).

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webmaster | 2 Jul 00:11 2003
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By: Nathan Nunn (nnunn <at> purity.com)

Need to keep in mind user seen/unseen/etc preferences associated with each feed - but that could turn into a
rather large array of indices in itself. The functionality would make it worthwhile though, I think.
Perhaps an optional attribute rather than required - some users may not care...

I really like the idea of consolidating multiple users' membership feeds. A smart server aggregator would
only subscribe to a feed once, and share it to multiple members thus reducing bandwidth consumption at the
aggregator-level. Nice.

- N

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olavjunker | 2 Jul 00:35 2003
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Moving forward

> I updated [1] the XML-RPC spec to remove the word ASCII from the 
definition of string type

I have a XML-RPC debugger specially suited for debugging character 
and encoding related issues. http://olav.dk/unirpc/test.aspx

I also have compiled a short list of XML-RPC libraries known to 
support unicode. http://olav.dk/unirpc/support.htm

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webmaster | 2 Jul 00:49 2003
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By: Brian Cantoni (brian <at> cantoni.org)

This would be a useful service. I hacked together an FTP solution (FTPStore [1]) that works with
AmphetaDesk [2]. The solution uses a common FTP location from which each client can send/receive its
channel subscription format (in OPML format).

The basic logic change to the aggregator is like this:
1. At startup, download the channel list (OPML)
2. While running, user can add/remove channels
3. At shutdown, post the channel list

I wonder if the new service can tie-in well with OPML somehow? If most aggregators already have some support
for OPML, it might ease the addition of this new Harmonizer service.

[1] http://www.cantoni.org/projects/AmphetaDesk.html#FTPStore
[2] http://www.disobey.com/amphetadesk/

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Roger Benningfield | 2 Jul 09:45 2003
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Re: Moving forward

--- In xml-rpc <at> yahoogroups.com, "olavjunker" <olav <at> o...> wrote:
> I also have compiled a short list of XML-RPC libraries known to 
> support unicode. http://olav.dk/unirpc/support.htm

Olav,

My XML-RPC Component for ColdFusion MX has no problems with UTF-8,
since CF defaults to UTF-8 internally.

http://journurl.com/support/users/admin/index.cfm/
mode/article/entry/362

--
Roger Benningfield
JournURL
http://admin.support.journurl.com/

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