Rick Jelliffe | 2 Jul 2008 07:00
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Re: Popular XML vocabularies expressed using DTD? using Relax NG? using XML Schema?

Robin Cover wrote:
>
> I hope that explains why I stopped cataloging at some point... I forget
> when.
>  
Robin's CoverPages are still a primary resource for SGML/XML, and Robin 
is one of the unsung heroes of markup.

One day, I hope someone will convert them to Wiki format, and integrate 
them with Wikipedia.

Cheers
Rick Jelliffe

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B Tommie Usdin | 3 Jul 2008 01:41
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ANN: Complete Balisage 2008 Program Announced

Complete Balisage 2008 Program Announced

[FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE]

Rockville, Maryland.  The complete program is now available, including
peer reviewed papers, late-breaking news, and first-person opinion papers.

   - Balisage 2008: The Markup Conference
    (held in Montreal from 12 to 15 August, 2008):
    Schedule at a Glance: http://www.balisage.net/At-A-Glance.html
    Detailed program: http://www.balisage.net/Program.html

   - The International Symposium on Versioning XML Vocabularies
     and Systems (held in the same location on Monday 11
     August):    http://www.balisage.net/Versioning/index.html
     and the detailed program is at:
       http://www.balisage.net/Versioning/VProgram.html

Topics include languages and processes for manipulating XML, the
Semantic Web and semantically-based document markup, resource-oriented
architectures, ontology design, schema mashups, constraint management,
real-time generation of topic maps, secure publishing for social
networks, managing overlapping annotations over the same primary data,
the social limitation of interoperability in digital libraries,
implementation of XSD 1.1 conditional-type assignment, and
a host of others.

Speakers from the business and government include: BEA Systems, IBM,
INRIA, Intel, Red Hat, SAIC, Sun, the World Wide Web Consortium, and the
Y-12 National Security Complex. Academic speakers include representatives
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Costello, Roger L. | 3 Jul 2008 14:06
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Online Tool to Validate Compound XHTML Documents

Hi Folks,

Modern Web design says that it's best practice to validate your XHTML
document before publishing them online.  The W3C validator tool can be
used to validate XHTML documents:
http://validator.w3.org/ 

An XHTML document may have embedded SVG, how do you validate both the
XHTML and the SVG?

An XHTML document may have embedded MathML, how do you validate both
the XHTML and the MathML?

Jirka Kosek has created an online tool that can validate such compound
documents:

http://relaxed.vse.cz/nextgeneration/

NVDL is used to validate these compound documents.  Here are the NVDL
meta-schemas:

http://relaxed.cvs.sourceforge.net/relaxed/relaxed_nvdl/schema/xhtml/1.
0/

/Roger

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Costello, Roger L. | 3 Jul 2008 14:25
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Seeking cool Web sites that use XHTML + SVG or XHTML + MathML


Hi Folks,

    Can you point me to cool Web sites that use XHTML + SVG or XHTML +
MathML?

/Roger

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David Carlisle | 3 Jul 2008 14:29
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Re: Seeking cool Web sites that use XHTML + SVG or XHTML + MathML


>     Can you point me to cool Web sites that use XHTML + SVG or XHTML +
> MathML?

there's rather a lot of xhtml+mathml to be found here for example

http://www.nag.co.uk/numeric/FL/manual/xhtml/mark21.xml

David

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David Carlisle | 3 Jul 2008 14:31
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Re: Online Tool to Validate Compound XHTML Documents


> An XHTML document may have embedded SVG, how do you validate both the
> XHTML and the SVG?
> 
> An XHTML document may have embedded MathML, how do you validate both
> the XHTML and the MathML?

while nvdl is a good thing, it's not strictly necessary for those cases,
as those DTD were all designed to conform to the requirements of xhtml
modularisation so can be plugged together to form a single
xhtml+mathml+svg dtd (which is known to the w3c's validator for example)

http://www.w3.org/TR/XHTMLplusMathMLplusSVG/

David

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Mark Doyle | 3 Jul 2008 15:43
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Re: Seeking cool Web sites that use XHTML + SVG or XHTML + MathML

Hi,

Jacques Distler's blog Musings (string theorist at UT Austin) has  
XHTML + MathML + SVG (including past blog entries about the issues  
related to using this in a robust way). The blog is at
http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/index.shtml 
  - look for the yellow MathML boxes. Other blogs he runs for  
mathematicians (n-Category Cafe - http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/ 
category/) also use quite a bit of MathML. Poke around for comments on  
XHTML+MathML+SVG.

Mark

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> Hi Folks,
>
>    Can you point me to cool Web sites that use XHTML + SVG or XHTML +
> MathML?
>
> /Roger
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Chuck Bearden | 3 Jul 2008 16:15
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Re: Seeking cool Web sites that use XHTML + SVG or XHTML + MathML

David Carlisle wrote:
>>     Can you point me to cool Web sites that use XHTML + SVG or XHTML +
>> MathML?
> 
> 
> there's rather a lot of xhtml+mathml to be found here for example
> 
> http://www.nag.co.uk/numeric/FL/manual/xhtml/mark21.xml

We have a lot of content at Connexions with MathML embedded in faux 
XHTML.  We say it's XHTML, but it's not well-formed (e.g. empty elements 
without closing tags or trailing forward-slashes; this problem is one 
that our development priorities haven't permitted us to address). 
However, there's a good bit of Content MathML in there as well, so our 
site might still be interesting to you.

Some examples:
http://cnx.org/content/m10224/latest/
http://cnx.org/content/m10127/latest/
http://cnx.org/content/m10250/latest/
http://cnx.org/content/m12857/latest/

Chuck
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Andrew Eisenberg | 3 Jul 2008 16:48
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Linking XML documents and constraining those links


I'm sending this message on behalf of my colleague John Arwe, co-chair of the W3C SML WG.



The W3C Service Modeling Language working group expects to publish a second (and hopefully final!) Last Call Working Draft "real soon now".  Some reviewers from the XQuery working group mentioned that the topic of referential integrity for sets of linked XML documents might be of sufficient interest to these lists that it would be worth soliciting a review.  Besides, they're great beach reading ;-)

Some of the earlier articles on SML attributed to it a somewhat different scope [1], either wider or narrower depending upon your point of view.  With that in mind, here is an outline of the topics actually in scope for SML as currently defined:

SML - definition of concepts for a model (a set of XML documents)

- Model validity ~ instances valid against XML Schema documents and any associated Schematron documents

- XML instance document extensions

- - Extensible syntax for recognizing SML references (conceptually, links) between document elements ... element A in document 1 links to element B in document 2, etc

- XML Schema extensions

- - Constraining SML references based on various criteria, e.g. target element, target element's type, are cycles allowed

- - Cross-document identity constraints (key, unique, keyref)

- - Association of Schematron rules with global elements and global complex types

SML-IF - interchange format, adds concrete syntax for exchanging models in cases where SML defines concepts but not syntax

- Association of XML Schema and Schematron documents with other model documents

- Association of 0..n URI aliases with each model document

Review drafts and instructions for providing comments are on the working group's page [2].  Until the new LC drafts are available (likely mid-July), we recommend using the editor's copies also available at [2].  [2] also has the links to the working group's Bugzilla page, so you can see which text is still being revised (keyword: editorial indicates conceptual agreement as indicated in the bug, just waiting for final drafting).

The potentially substantive issues for which we do not have final consensus as of this email (but expect to _very_ soon) are:

- base URI source http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5542

- whether or not to support barenames in SML references http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5543


Best Regards, John Arwe (W3C SML wg co-chair)

[1] http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dailynews/200702/msg00004.html
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/SML/



Gerald Bauer | 3 Jul 2008 23:14
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Re: Seeking cool Web sites that use XHTML + SVG or XHTML + MathML

Hello,

>    Can you point me to cool Web sites that use XHTML + SVG or XHTML +
> MathML?

  The Ruby Slide Show (S9) gem that lets you create slide shows and
author slides in plain text using a wiki-style markup language that's
easy-to-write and easy-to-read has a dozen+ samples that include
"loss-free" gradient background themes (using SVG) that may qualify
for "real-world" practical HTML+SVG case studies.

   Samples include:

   o Slide Show (S9) 10-Minute Tutorial   <at> 
http://slideshow.rubyforge.org/s5/tutorial.html
   o Microformats - Add Semantics to Your Web Site   <at> 
http://slideshow.rubyforge.org/s5/microformats.html
   o Facebook Stats, Numbers & More  <at> 
http://slideshow.rubyforge.org/s5/facebook.html
   o Merb - All You Need, None You Don't  <at> 
http://slideshow.rubyforge.org/s5/merb.html

   (Note, S5 slide shows include a hidden control bar. Scroll to the
lower right corner to make the jump box, outline toggle button and
more show up).

   Cheers.

PS: S9 Tip of the Day: Replace .html with .svg to check your
background gradient theme. Try
http://slideshow.rubyforge.org/s5/microformats.svg

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