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Wendell Piez | 2 Apr 2008 00:07
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Re: TEI <-> OpenOffice

Hi,

At 01:02 PM 3/30/2008, you wrote:
>Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
>>Brett Zamir wrote:
>>>
>>>God help you if you ever decide to try OOXML... ;)
>>It's not _that_ much worse; the biggest nasty
>So those extra 5000 pages or so of the spec were not relevant or 
>just a no-brainer?...

Do (don't) we need to point out for the uninitiated that "OOXML" is 
not the XML used by OpenOffice.org, but the so-called "Office Open 
XML" format presented to an undeserving world by the developers of 
Word, aka "Office"?

http://government.zdnet.com/?p=3743

Seeing how that format handles inline markup is enough to make your 
hair go grey (if it hasn't already). In the short-medium term (that 
is, until commercial software steps in to make the problem Mostly Go 
Away), business prospects look good for XML consultants with strong stomachs.

This is not the same as OpenOffice XML, aka ODF.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Open_XML

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument

http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/odf_ooxml_technical_white_paper
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Syd Bauman | 2 Apr 2008 00:25
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Balisage paper submissions due Fri 18 Apr

Papers for both Balisage (*the* markup conference) and the
pre-conference symposium on versioning are due on Fri 18 Apr. See
http://www.balisage.net/.

The conference will be from Tue 12 Aug to Fri 15 Aug in Montreal,
Canada. The versioning symposium will be Mon 11 Aug.
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Peter Flynn | 2 Apr 2008 11:00
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Re: TEI <-> OpenOffice

On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:07:37 -0400, Wendell Piez wrote
> 
> Do (don't) we need to point out for the uninitiated that 
"OOXML" is 
> not the XML used by OpenOffice.org, but the so-called "Office 
Open 
> XML" format presented to an undeserving world by the developers 
of 
> Word, aka "Office"?

Probably. Alas.

///Peter
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Mikel L. Forcada | 2 Apr 2008 15:57
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OOXML accepted by ISO

No turning back. OOXML has been accepted as an "ISO standard":

http://www.iso.org/iso/pressrelease.htm?refid=Ref1123

Made me think about the meaning of "authority" for a while...

Mikel Forcada
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Marguerite Roby | 3 Apr 2008 22:24
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footnotes

Hi all,
I have a
 pretty simple question...Am having some trouble getting footnotes to appear in indexed documents, so I
know I'm missing something from the tags...

Here's what I'm doing:  

 If any should attempt anything <note id="fn0.1" place="foot" n="1"><p>The original ms. language reads:
&quot;If any factious disturbance takes place, they shall...&quot;
 </p></note> they shall, when the outbreak is quelled...

Any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks!
Marguerite
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Syd Bauman | 4 Apr 2008 00:31
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Re: footnotes

> I have a pretty simple question...Am having some trouble getting
> footnotes to appear in indexed documents, so I know I'm missing
> something from the tags...

> Here's what I'm doing:  
> 
>  If any should attempt anything <note id="fn0.1" place="foot"
>  n="1"><p>The original ms. language reads: &quot;If any factious
>  disturbance takes place, they shall...&quot; </p></note> they
>  shall, when the outbreak is quelled...
> 
> Any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?

The encoding looks just fine (for a P4 document ... if you were using
P5 that id= attribute would be an xml:id=), although personally I'd
encode that which is in between quotation marks with an element:

     If any should attempt anything <note id="fn0.1" place="foot"
     n="1"><p>The original ms. language reads: <quote>If any factious
     disturbance takes place, they shall&hellip;</quote></p></note> they
     shall, when the outbreak is quelled...

But I'm afraid I don't quite catch what exactly is the trouble you're
having. I'm gathering it's something to do with output. How are you
processing the text, and what is the output of the above snippet
like?
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Felix Sasaki | 4 Apr 2008 06:59
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New W3C Group: "ITS Interest Group"

Sorry to mis-use this list for an announcement ... details of this group 
are described at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2008Apr/0000.html
The group homepage is at http://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/
The mailing list archive is at 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/
To participate in the group just send a mail to 
public-i18n-its-ig-request <at> w3.org with the subject
subscribe

There are two reasons why I'm announcing this here. First, the 
development of ITS got significant benefit from the TEI, specifically 
Sebastian Rahtz who introduced us to the ODD system. And second, for 
whose who need to translate or localize in a different sense TEI-based 
material, ITS and participation in this Interest Group might be of interest.

Felix
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Michelle Dalmau | 4 Apr 2008 11:03
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Software Developers for the Institute for Digital Arts and Humanities, Indiana University

The following two software developer positions are currently open in  
the Indiana University Digital Library Program. These positions were  
created to support the Digital Library Program’s involvement in the  
new Institute for Digital Arts and Humanities at Indiana University  
Bloomington. Both positions are initially funded for three years, with  
potential for renewal.

If you are interested in either position, please apply online at <http://www.jobs.indiana.edu/ 
 >, referencing the appropriate position number.

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 >. For more information on the Institute for Digital Arts and  
Humanities, see <http://www.indiana.edu/~idah/>.

Please don’t hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.

-----
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Associate Director for Technology
Indiana University Digital Library Program
IU Libraries / University Information Technology Services
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Lou's Laptop | 4 Apr 2008 19:43
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[Fwd: [TEI-FR] Proposition pour une organisation de l'expertise TEI en France]

[Not to be outdone by Peter Boot's recent message aimed at the 
Dutch-speaking part of our readership, here is another, specifically 
aimed at our francophone readers, recently circulated on tei-fr]

Bonjour,

Veuillez trouver ci-dessous un message déjà envoyé directement à une 
quinzaine de personnes connaissant bien la TEI, et avec qui nous sommes 
en contact d'une manière ou d'une autre ; il est probable que 
certains abonnés à cette liste (mais que nous ne connaissons pas 
personnellement pour l'instant) peuvent être impliqués de la même 
manière, et donc intéressés par ce projet :

/"Au vu du nombre croissant de projets français autour de la TEI et 
des  besoins de formation émergents en parallèle, il nous semble 
important de constituer un réseau d'experts TEI français pour soutenir 
et  mutualiser des actions de formation ou conseil sur des projets 
TEI; un moyen de concrétiser ce projet est l'organisation d'un workshop 
en octobre 2008, pour se rencontrer, approfondir nos compétences TEI 
et contribuer à s'organiser pour la suite./

/Un projet dans ce sens a été rédigé par l'ATILF et l'INIST 
pour soumission au réseau Adonis (le grand équipement pour les 
sciences humaines lancé par le CNRS) ; celui-ci a accepté de soutenir 
cette  action, ce qui nous permet donc de nous mettre en route./

/Pour autant, d'une part, le contenu du workshop demande à être précisé 
(nous pensions a priori le dédier essentiellement à  l'enseignement de 
la TEI), et d'autre part, la façon de constituer et  de faire vivre un 
réseau d'experts TEI peut prendre des formes diverses.  "/
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Eric Lease Morgan | 5 Apr 2008 14:08
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dictionaires

I have a couple of questions about dictionaries and TEI.

First, does anybody here know of a freely available English  
dictionary marked up in TEI? Maybe somebody has marked up the  
Webster's 1913 dictionary?

Second, and more importantly, what do y'all think about the idea of  
marking up sets of Library of Congress authority files as a TEI  
dictionary? If such a thing existed, then I could easily create a Web  
Services-based tool to assist in the searching of traditional library  
catalogs (or "catalogues" as you say across the pond). Let me elaborate.

The most essential elements of MARC authority files are the 1xx, 4xx,  
and 5xx fields. The 1xx fields are the "official" subject,  
geographic, and name headings -- the controlled vocabulary. The 4xx  
and 5xx fields are the "see from" and "see also" references. In the  
light of a dictionary, the 1xx fields would be headword elements, 4xx  
fields might be ref elements, and the 5xx fields might map to xr  
elements. Alternatively, both the 4xx and 5xx fields might map to xr  
elements using the cr and syn attributes, respectively.

Once marked up, I would index the TEI. Searches against the index  
would return words, their "definitions", and hot links of pre-created  
searches against library catalogs. Consequently, when somebody  
searched the index for the word blues one of the returned records  
would be "Blues -- 1931-1945". This later heading would be hot and  
search a (configurable) remote catalog for that subject heading.

Finally, I thought I would supplement my TEI-ified authority records  
with definitions, pronunciations, and synonyms from other tools
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