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Janusz S. Bień | 3 Oct 2005 06:45
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no RefDB for stable Debian


I've finally got some time to start experimenting with RefDB on a
clean installation of Debian Sarge and was disappointed that the
packages are available only for testing and unstable :-(.

Regards

Janusz

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Janusz S. Bień | 3 Oct 2005 17:57
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Re: no RefDB for stable Debian

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005  David Nebauer <davidnebauer <at> switch.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Janusz,
> 
> Janusz S. Bień wrote:
> 
> >I've finally got some time to start experimenting with RefDB on a
> >clean installation of Debian Sarge and was disappointed that the
> >packages are available only for testing and unstable :-(.
> >
> 
> Thanks for the prod. When I began building debs for refdb and refdb
> addons I left out stable support because there were some dependencies
> not satisfied in that Debian distribution.

Thanks for your quick reesponse.

> 
> Recently, however, Debian released Sarge. This effectively meant the
> previous testing distro became the new stable distro. As a result, the
> refdb deb should run without a problem on the new Debian stable
> (Sarge).

Unfortunately not, there are still unsatisfied dependencies (libc6 and
libncurses5).

> The download and install pages on refdb.sourceforge.net have been
> updated accordingly.

I see no change in
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David Nebauer | 3 Oct 2005 14:44
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Re: no RefDB for stable Debian

Hi Janusz,

Janusz S. Bień wrote:

>I've finally got some time to start experimenting with RefDB on a
>clean installation of Debian Sarge and was disappointed that the
>packages are available only for testing and unstable :-(.
>

Thanks for the prod. When I began building debs for refdb and refdb 
addons I left out stable support because there were some dependencies 
not satisfied in that Debian distribution.

Recently, however, Debian released Sarge. This effectively meant the 
previous testing distro became the new stable distro. As a result, the 
refdb deb should run without a problem on the new Debian stable (Sarge).

I've rebuilt the repositories to include support for stable. Not only 
should the refdb (pre-)release package install and run ok, but the refdb 
cvs package should also (if you're feeling adventurous!). The download 
and install pages on refdb.sourceforge.net have been updated accordingly.

Please let the list know how you fare installing and running refdb on 
Debian stable. You'll be the first!

Regards,
David.

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Markus Hoenicka | 4 Oct 2005 09:36
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Re: no RefDB for stable Debian

Hi,

I guess this is my bad. David and I started restructuring the web pages a bit.
David checked in his changes which include the updated Debian instructions, but
I didn't get round this weekend to fix my part and upload the web pages. I hope
I'll find some time tonight. If not, feel free to use the web pages in CVS.

regards,
Markus

"Janusz S. Bieñ" <jsbien <at> mimuw.edu.pl> was heard to say:

> > The download and install pages on refdb.sourceforge.net have been
> > updated accordingly.
>
> I see no change in
>
>         http://refdb.sourceforge.net/download.html
>

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David Nebauer | 5 Oct 2005 12:24
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Re: no RefDB for stable Debian

Hi Janusz,

Janusz S. Bien wrote:

>>As a result, the
>>refdb deb should run without a problem on the new Debian stable
>>(Sarge).
>>
>
>Unfortunately not, there are still unsatisfied dependencies (libc6 and
>libncurses5).
>

Hmmm, you are correct.  For their own mysterious reasons the Debian 
folks did not migrate the old testing (Sarge) versions of these packages 
into the new stable (Sarge) distribution.

The dependencies on libc6 and libncurses5 were not inserted explicitly 
by me, but by the debian build scripts.  Interestingly, they did not 
choose the package versions installed on my Debian/testing system.  
Rather, they chose versions between the stable and testing versions:

package             libc6         libncurses5
-------             -----         -----------
stable version      2.3.2.ds1-22  5.4-4
dependency version  2.3.5-1       5.4-5
testing version     2.3.5-6       5.4-9

I'm reluctant to overrule the build system's derived dependency versions 
without understanding why they were chosen.  Markus understands the
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Janusz S. Bień | 6 Oct 2005 20:26
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Re: no RefDB for stable Debian

On Wed, 05 Oct 2005  David Nebauer <davidnebauer <at> switch.com.au> wrote:

[...]

> 3. Once downloaded, perform a forced install using the command:
>     dpkg --force-depends -i refdb_XXX.deb
> while in the same directory as the downloaded deb.  Replace
> 'refdb_XXX.deb' with the name of the downloaded deb.

The results is:

Selecting previously deselected package refdb.
(Reading database ... 105363 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking refdb (from refdb_0.9.6-pre2_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: refdb: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you request:
 refdb depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1); however:
  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-22.
 refdb depends on libncurses5 (>= 5.4-5); however:
  Version of libncurses5 on system is 5.4-4.
Setting up refdb (0.9.6-pre2) ...
invoke-rc.d: initscript refdb, action "start" failed.

What is the next step?

Regards

Janusz

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David Nebauer | 7 Oct 2005 12:07
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Re: no RefDB for stable Debian

Hi Janusz,

>>3. Once downloaded, perform a forced install using the command:
>>    dpkg --force-depends -i refdb_XXX.deb
>>while in the same directory as the downloaded deb.  Replace
>>'refdb_XXX.deb' with the name of the downloaded deb.
>>
>
>The results is:
>
>Selecting previously deselected package refdb.
>(Reading database ... 105363 files and directories currently installed.)
>Unpacking refdb (from refdb_0.9.6-pre2_i386.deb) ...
>dpkg: refdb: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you request:
> refdb depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1); however:
>  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-22.
> refdb depends on libncurses5 (>= 5.4-5); however:
>  Version of libncurses5 on system is 5.4-4.
>Setting up refdb (0.9.6-pre2) ...
>invoke-rc.d: initscript refdb, action "start" failed.
>
>What is the next step?
>

What has happened is the package manager attempted to start the refdb 
server/daemon, 'refdbd', and failed.

More specifically, it ran the script '/etc/init.d/refdb'.  That script 
executed the command '/usr/bin/refdbctl start'.  As a result, that 
script executed the following commands to start the RefDB server/daemon
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Markus Hoenicka | 7 Oct 2005 23:42
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call for PHP web interface improvements

Hi,

thanks to Tom, RefDB again ships with a web interface (well, at least
the next prerelease will). The current version essentially has the
same functionality as the previous web interface, plus a nice
administrative page for the most common tasks like adding databases
and users. While I'm very glad that there is a web interface at all, I
see some room for improvements. The most obvious shortcomings in the
current version that I noted are the lack of true links to offprints
(as displayed in the AV contents), as well as the lack of links that
display all references associated with a given author.

I'm sure that others have a different and maybe longer wishlist. I'd
like to encourage everyone interested in the web interface to help Tom
with code and with suggestions. I'd also like to encourage people who
are more involved in design and usability than in PHP coding to
contribute. To play with the web interface, build RefDB from CVS or
wait for the next prerelease which is due within approx. a week from
now.

regards,
Markus

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Thomas Bartolucci | 12 Oct 2005 13:46

Re: call for PHP web interface improvements

All suggestions are welcome.  Please be specific in your descriptions of 
  your "wish list" so that I can hopefully add them with the least 
amount of hassle for you.

Markus Hoenicka wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> thanks to Tom, RefDB again ships with a web interface (well, at least
> the next prerelease will). The current version essentially has the
> same functionality as the previous web interface, plus a nice
> administrative page for the most common tasks like adding databases
> and users. While I'm very glad that there is a web interface at all, I
> see some room for improvements. The most obvious shortcomings in the
> current version that I noted are the lack of true links to offprints
> (as displayed in the AV contents), as well as the lack of links that
> display all references associated with a given author.
> 
> I'm sure that others have a different and maybe longer wishlist. I'd
> like to encourage everyone interested in the web interface to help Tom
> with code and with suggestions. I'd also like to encourage people who
> are more involved in design and usability than in PHP coding to
> contribute. To play with the web interface, build RefDB from CVS or
> wait for the next prerelease which is due within approx. a week from
> now.
> 
> regards,
> Markus
> 

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Markus Hoenicka | 22 Oct 2005 23:45
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ANN: refdb-0.9.6-pre3 available for download

Hi all,

RefDB version 0.9.6-pre3 is now available for download at the usual
location:

http://refdb.sourceforge.net/pre/refdb-latest.tar.gz

An updated version of the Perl client library is available as well:

http://refdb.sourceforge.net/pre/RefDBClient-Client-1.13.tar.gz

It took more than half a year to finish this version, but I've spent a
large part of this time on fixing and improving libdbi, the database
abstraction layer used by RefDB. libdbi is now better portable and has
a greatly improved support for character encodings.

Based on these improvements, RefDB has evolved quite a bit. A list of
bugfixes and improvements is appended below. David Nebauer has
packaged RefDB, libdbi, and all of his add-ons as Debian packages to
make upgrading easy. I'm sure .debs of this prerelease will be
available shortly. David and I also started to rework the web page,
please see the results at:

http://refdb.sourceforge.net

Unless there are serious problems with this prerelease, I plan to
release 0.9.6 fairly soon. Please help making 0.9.6 as stable as
possible by testing the prerelease.

regards,
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