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Markus Hoenicka | 1 Feb 2004 01:30
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segfault on server, error on client

Rainer Duffner writes:
 > host:/usr/local/share/refdb # refdbd -s -e 0 -l 7
 > dbi_driver_dir went to:
 > 
 > dbi is up using default driver dir
 > Available libdbi database drivers:
 > pgsql
 > application server started
 > use /tmp/refdbd_fifo29127 as fifo
 > server waiting n_max_fd=4
 > adding client on fd 5
 > server waiting n_max_fd=5
 > Segmentation fault
 > 

This looks like the infamous log related segfault in 0.9.3. The
preferred way to fix this is to upgrade to 0.9.4-pre1 (a bugfix
release without new features) which is available here:

http://refdb.sourceforge.net/pre/refdb-0.9.4-pre1.tar.gz

If you want to stick to 0.9.3, do not ask refdbd to write its log
output to stderr. Use -e 1 or -e 2 instead.

HTH,
Markus

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Bruce D'Arcus | 1 Feb 2004 15:56

Re: php/html interface mockup


On Feb 1, 2004, at 9:43 AM, Marc Herbert wrote:

>> Interestingly, this Mozilla technology is based on Apple's Sherlock
>> search technology.
>
> Patents anyone ? Just wondering...

AFAIK, Sherlock is based on stuff like Javascript and XML.  The Mozilla 
page notes, however, that their name choice is to avoid any copyright 
complaints....

Bruce

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Bruce D'Arcus | 3 Feb 2004 18:49

Re: Re: interface mockup

On Feb 3, 2004, at 12:08 AM, Matt Price wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 09:22:32AM -0500, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
>> On Jan 30, 2004, at 11:26 PM, Matt Price wrote:
>>
>>>> So what would happen if you click on the link?
>>>
>>> you get a page with a full reference, including notes and abstract &
>>> whatever else...
>>
>> How would that then relate to the mark-and-view/export interface, and
>> note pop-up buttons?  Do me a favor and compare what you're thinking
>> about to this example:
>>
>> http://130.83.186.203/exist/xquery/biblio.xm
>
> xquery looks interesting -- I will check it out Real Soon Now.

The thing to look at is just the interface.

>>> when you say 'map natural language', I take it you mean
>>> "take data entered in fields whose names are readily comprehensible
>>> to users, and pass the data on to the database in fields whose names
>>> the db understands." but what's the importance of "template-defined"?
>>
>> OK, you have a pop-up list with reference types of, for example:
>>
>> book
>> edited book
>> journal article
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Justus H. Piater | 4 Feb 2004 09:33
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MODS + RefDB

Hi -

Does anybody out there (Bruce, for instance) have practical experience
with using MODS (as the "master") in conjunction with RefDB?

How do you import MODS data into RefDB? Do you use Chris Putnam's
bibutils (MODS->RIS), or do you have an XSLT stylesheet (MODS->RISX)?

Ditto for RefDB->MODS?

I'd like to hear about your experiences.

If I interpret the list traffic correctly, things are converging
toward using MODS, and a future version of RefDB will likely be based
on MODS instead of RIS. Markus, is this correct?

Cheers,
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Bruce D'Arcus | 4 Feb 2004 14:21

Re: MODS + RefDB


On Feb 4, 2004, at 3:33 AM, Justus H. Piater wrote:

> Does anybody out there (Bruce, for instance) have practical experience
> with using MODS (as the "master") in conjunction with RefDB?

Not exactly.

> How do you import MODS data into RefDB? Do you use Chris Putnam's
> bibutils (MODS->RIS), or do you have an XSLT stylesheet (MODS->RISX)?

v3 of Chris' tools currently do a fantastic job of converting from RIS, 
Endnote and BibTeX (though note, I've not actually test the latter, and 
encourage others to) ---> MODS.  So that provides one mechanism for 
exporting MODS content from RefDB, though I've not tried it yet myself.

Once these tools stabilize (and people testing and sending n bug 
reports will help), Chris will implement conversion out of MODS back to 
those non-XML formats.

> If I interpret the list traffic correctly, things are converging
> toward using MODS

Yes, and with more than one project, I might add.

> , and a future version of RefDB will likely be based
> on MODS instead of RIS. Markus, is this correct?

I'm pretty sure that's the plan, but Markus will have to tackle that.  
It would short-term he could somehow use Chris' tools for
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Bruce D'Arcus | 4 Feb 2004 14:31

Re: MODS + RefDB

I wrote:

> It would short-term he could somehow use Chris' tools for 
> import/export....

What I meant was:

It might be nice short-term if he could somehow use Chris' tools for 
[MODS] import/export....

Curious question: would it be possible to do that if the tools had an 
LGPL license?  Or must everything be full GPL?

Bruce

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Bruce D'Arcus | 4 Feb 2004 17:27

Bibutils source

It turns out Bibutils is GPL, and the source is now available here:

http://www.scripps.edu/~cdputnam/software/bibutils/bibutils_3.4_src.tgz

Markus, can a GPL utility like this be used in an LGPL project like 
OpenOffice?

Bruce

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Markus Hoenicka | 5 Feb 2004 00:19
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ANN: refdb-0.9.4-pre6 available

Hi all,

there's a new prerelease available for testing:

http://refdb.sourceforge.net/pre/refdb-latest.tar.gz

The matching Perl client module is right here:

http://refdb.sourceforge.net/pre/RefDBClient-Client-1.8-pre1.tar.gz

There are two major changes compared to the previous prerelease:

1) A few glitches in the character encoding support were
   fixed. Multibyte datasets are now supported whenever it is
   useful. risx and xnote data can now be imported in UTF-16, and all
   data can be exported using multibyte encodings like UTF-16 and
   UTF-32. This required a few changes in the client/server
   communication protocol. That is, older clients won't talk to the
   new server and vice versa.

2) The getref and getnote query languages were changed. So far RefDB
   tried a regexp match in all string comparisons like
   :KW:='whatever'. In order to simplify writing GUI applications, the
   new version tries a literal match in these cases by default. If you
   want a regexp match, use the new tilde operator as in
   :KW:~'whatever'. Please note that Unix regexps are only supported
   by MySQL and PostgreSQL. SQLite supports SQL regexps, although
   rumours say that Unix regexps will be added in the near future.

Please report any problems and suggestions to the list. I'd like to
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Markus Hoenicka | 4 Feb 2004 22:14
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Re: MODS + RefDB

Bruce D'Arcus writes:
 > I wrote:
 > 
 > > It would short-term he could somehow use Chris' tools for 
 > > import/export....
 > 
 > What I meant was:
 > 
 > It might be nice short-term if he could somehow use Chris' tools for 
 > [MODS] import/export....
 > 

I haven't had a chance to test-drive these tools, but I assume they
work like the import filters supplied by RefDB. I don't think I have
to adapt these programs in any way, so everyone can just download and
use them. All it takes is a prominent pointer in the manual.

regards,
Markus

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Bruce D'Arcus | 5 Feb 2004 04:16

Re: MODS + RefDB

On Feb 4, 2004, at 4:11 PM, Markus Hoenicka wrote:

> Once 0.9.4 is off my chest (it has been delayed due to some character 
> encoding pitfalls) I'll focus on MODS import and export.

And how about extended citation (e.g. biblioref) support?  I sent a 
note earlier about that, but it never made it to the list it seems...

Bruce

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