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headers Jurgens du Toit | 17 Jul 2008 14:23

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* Jurgens du Toit <jurgens.dutoit <at> gmail.com> [2008-07-17 14:25]:
> Is it a bug or a feature that the following two texts get
> formatted differently?

That’s on purpose. To make a list, it needs to be in a separate
paragraph.

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Hello,

I'd like to announce an improved version of my Markdown Editor plugin
for the popular Eclipse Java + everything else IDE. The Markdown
plugin has moved from it's old location. The new location is:

http://winterwell.com/software/markdown-editor.php

There's syntax highlighting, a preview window, and it can export to
html. The best feature is the document outline, which is a joy for
editing large documents.
Plus you can use TODO tags and these get picked up as tasks, and an
emacs-style text formatting tool.

All the best,
 - Daniel

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On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Jurgens du Toit
<jurgens.dutoit <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok.
>
> Is it possible to modify the code to do that?

Very probably, but you may not want to. My impression is that there's
a lot of tradeoffs in Markdown between it trying to do what you mean
and it requiring non-ambiguous markup. For example, if you've got a
paragraph with a plus sign in it, and you have your editor re-wrap it,
you might end up with a line starting with that plus sign. You
wouldn't want Markdown to think it's a one-item list.

It's also not terribly easy to read without that leading newline.

> Can you point me in the right
> direction?

You might look in the `_DoLists` function.

> It's something I'd realy like to be able to do, even if it is a configurable
> options.
>
> Another thing, is it possible to convert newlines to <br/> tags? I tried
> nl2br before and after passing the string to markdown, but either way
> there's to many br tags then.

You can end a line with 2 or more spaces and it will create a <br/> for you.

---John

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Jurgens du Toit <jurgens.dutoit <at> gmail.com> 08-07-17 20.12

>Any special reason why single newlines don't get converted to <br/>? I'm
>thinking that if it happens right at the end of the manipulations, and
>newlines between closing and opening block tags (such as <\p>\n<p>) get
>ignored, it will work? Or, actually more simple, only newlines between
>certain tags, such as p and div?

I'm not sure I understand, do you mean that you want a text like this:

This is just
an example
text

to be translated into

<p>
This is just<br/>
an example<br/>
text<br/>
</p>

Or am I misunderstanding things?

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Jurgens du Toit <jurgens.dutoit <at> gmail.com> 08-07-17 22.13

>Exactly that, yes.

Well, there is a good reason why Markdown doesn't do this. Many 
prefer to use a plain text editor which doesn't wrap text (I for 
example prefer my text files this way) and we insert hard new 
lines to keep the lines from becoming too long. If those hard 
newlines were translated into <br /> Markdown would be useless 
for a lot of people.

(and I don't think there is an option to get it to behave the 
way you want)

                 jem
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Le 2008-07-17 à 10:11, John Gabriele a écrit :

> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Jurgens du Toit
> <jurgens.dutoit <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ok.
>>
>> Is it possible to modify the code to do that?
>
> Very probably, but you may not want to. My impression is that there's
> a lot of tradeoffs in Markdown between it trying to do what you mean
> and it requiring non-ambiguous markup. For example, if you've got a
> paragraph with a plus sign in it, and you have your editor re-wrap it,
> you might end up with a line starting with that plus sign. You
> wouldn't want Markdown to think it's a one-item list.

Well, that's almost the exact reason this was changed, a long time ago
now. The problem was with sentences finishing with a number in the
middle of a hard-wrapped paragraph. For instance, I could say: "I want
2. He wants 3.", and then you'd have a strange list popping in the
middle of your otherwise normal paragraph.

The requirement of a blank line goes away when a list is nested in
another, so you can write nice-looking hierarchical lists:

     1.  Test
         *   Test
         *   Test

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