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SourceForge.net | 1 Nov 2010 14:50

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[ docutils-Bugs-3100778 ] xetex: broken pdf contents & to-UTF16 conversion warnings

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Summary: xetex: broken pdf contents & to-UTF16 conversion warnings

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[ docutils-Bugs-3100778 ] xetex: broken pdf contents & to-UTF16 conversion warnings

Bugs item #3100778, was opened at 2010-11-01 16:50
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>Category: latex2e writer
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Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Kirill Smelkov (kirr79)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: xetex: broken pdf contents & to-UTF16 conversion warnings

Initial Comment:
# consider following document
$ cat x.txt 
Привет Мир!
===========

Миру мир

.. contents::

Hello шпаргалка
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Guenter Milde | 1 Nov 2010 21:20

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Re: math support: next steps

On 2010-10-31, engelbert gruber wrote:
> Dear Guenter,

> for the manpage-writer
...

> The folloowing preprocessors exist:

> eqn - equations
...

> So for man-pages the equation support is unimportant.

> If one wants to do it, beaware not all eqn preprocessors are equal.

> * for man pages in consoles neqn is the target.

On my Debian/Linux system, the eqn manpage says:

       GNU eqn does not provide the functionality of neqn: it does not
       support low-resolution, typewriter-like devices (although it may
       work ade‐ quately for very simple input).

IMO, "the right way" would be a "latex-math -> troff" or a "latex-math ->
text" converter that bypasses the eqn preprocessor.

> If we consider that the manpage writer was done to easy production of
> man pages, we might leave
> equations out of it.

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engelbert gruber | 1 Nov 2010 22:23

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Re: math support: next steps

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Guenter Milde <milde <at> users.berlios.de> wrote:
> On 2010-10-31, engelbert gruber wrote:
>
>> The folloowing preprocessors exist:
>
>> eqn - equations
> ...
>
>> So for man-pages the equation support is unimportant.
>
>> If one wants to do it, beaware not all eqn preprocessors are equal.
>
>> * for man pages in consoles neqn is the target.
>
> On my Debian/Linux system, the eqn manpage says:
>
>       GNU eqn does not provide the functionality of neqn: it does not
>       support low-resolution, typewriter-like devices (although it may
>       work ade‐ quately for very simple input).
>
> IMO, "the right way" would be a "latex-math -> troff" or a "latex-math ->
> text" converter that bypasses the eqn preprocessor.

I understand your logic, but dont agree.

* latex-math -> troff: is only harder to do than latex-math -> eqn.
  eqn: will translate to roff for free.

  The output will be consistent on the system, but will be printable.

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Guenter Milde | 2 Nov 2010 12:05

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Re: math support: next steps

On 2010-11-01, engelbert gruber wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Guenter Milde <milde <at> users.berlios.de> wrote:
>> On 2010-10-31, engelbert gruber wrote:

>>> So for man-pages the equation support is unimportant.

This is the main point and this we agree on. So the discussion below
should not stand in the way.

> * latex-math -> troff: is only harder to do than latex-math -> eqn.
>   eqn: will translate to roff for free.

>   The output will be consistent on the system, but will be printable.

What would be the command sequence I had to use to translate
man-page-writer output with eqn-equations to a man page I can view with
`man`?

> * latex-math -> text: might be usable, but i donot know how hard, and
>   what is text anyway (unicode console ?)

For output formats without math support, I consider a conversion to either

 * Plain text with Unicode (𝑥 = 2π∫ sin(𝜔𝑡)d𝑡

 * a Docutils doctree node with font-attributes similar to what you would
   get from rst *x* = 2π ∫ sin(*ωt*)d *t*
 
with `graceful degradation` for features that cannot be supported this way.

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SourceForge.net | 2 Nov 2010 12:25

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[ docutils-Bugs-3100778 ] xetex: broken pdf contents & to-UTF16 conversion warnings

Bugs item #3100778, was opened at 2010-11-01 13:50
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Category: latex2e writer
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Status: Open
Resolution: None
>Priority: 4
Private: No
Submitted By: Kirill Smelkov (kirr79)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: xetex: broken pdf contents & to-UTF16 conversion warnings

Initial Comment:
# consider following document
$ cat x.txt 
Привет Мир!
===========

Миру мир

.. contents::

Hello шпаргалка
---------------

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SourceForge.net | 2 Nov 2010 15:44

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[ docutils-Bugs-3100778 ] xetex: broken pdf contents & to-UTF16 conversion warnings

Bugs item #3100778, was opened at 2010-11-01 16:50
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Private: No
Submitted By: Kirill Smelkov (kirr79)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: xetex: broken pdf contents & to-UTF16 conversion warnings

Initial Comment:
# consider following document
$ cat x.txt 
Привет Мир!
===========

Миру мир

.. contents::

Hello шпаргалка
---------------

(Continue reading)

SourceForge.net | 4 Nov 2010 15:32

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[ docutils-Bugs-3100778 ] xetex: broken pdf contents & to-UTF16 conversion warnings

Bugs item #3100778, was opened at 2010-11-01 13:50
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Category: latex2e writer
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Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 4
Private: No
Submitted By: Kirill Smelkov (kirr79)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: xetex: broken pdf contents & to-UTF16 conversion warnings

Initial Comment:
# consider following document
$ cat x.txt 
Привет Мир!
===========

Миру мир

.. contents::

Hello шпаргалка
---------------

(Continue reading)

SourceForge.net | 4 Nov 2010 19:12

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[ docutils-Bugs-3103080 ] rst2odt doesn\'t do nested definiton lists

Bugs item #3103080, was opened at 2010-11-04 18:12
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Category: ODT Writer
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Status: Open
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Submitted By: N. Riesco (nriesco2010)
Assigned to: Dave Kuhlman (dkuhlman)
Summary: rst2odt doesn\'t do nested definiton lists

Initial Comment:
I'm attaching an RST file with a simple example of nested definition lists.

I can see the nested lists when I run rst2html test.rst > test.html

But when I run rst2odt test.rst > test.odt
I get everything in one definition list.

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SourceForge.net | 5 Nov 2010 11:18

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[ docutils-Bugs-3100778 ] xetex: broken pdf contents & to-UTF16 conversion warnings

Bugs item #3100778, was opened at 2010-11-01 13:50
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Category: latex2e writer
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>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Wont Fix
Priority: 4
Private: No
Submitted By: Kirill Smelkov (kirr79)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: xetex: broken pdf contents & to-UTF16 conversion warnings

Initial Comment:
# consider following document
$ cat x.txt 
Привет Мир!
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Миру мир

.. contents::

Hello шпаргалка
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