FW: [BrixTalk] Phosphate content...

this is a crossposting from a discsussion group i belong to, i thought it
was important enough to share with others interested in optimum
wellbeing....if you would prefer to not ever receive emails like this in the
future, press reply and put remove me in subject box and i will
stop....aloha,
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From: "Thomas Giannou" <thomas@...>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:41:30 -0700
To: <BrixTalk@...>
Subject: Re: [BrixTalk] Phosphate content...

Hi Allan,

I was just citing an example where excessive super phosphate use and
excessive chemical fertilizer use can put the soil into major problems where
no crops can be grown.  I don't perceive that people like Reams, Kinsey and
Albrecht ever got into situations where they screwed up the soil like that.

What I have found is that I can put down two fertilizer products as a "food
resource" in the form of trace minerals (Planters II) and organic nutrients
(Biosol organic fertilizer).  With that resource in place I don't spend a
dime on soil testing or pH testing, because I've found that material is more
than adequate.  The next resource I have added to soils and to plant roots
and plant surfaces is some very specific soil life.  Examples of the soil

Commercial content... and Intellectural Patents

Hi Forest and eco village list,
I like the results of Forest's post, but a dull note in the strident tone
struck when I opened the www of the author.  What I understand it to be is
- a copy of Biodynamic Farming solutions, albeit that have been verified
in brix-tests and my personal experience.

Forest, please let me know if you checked out that poster's claims?  Do
you agree that is a 'copy of Biodynamic Farming solutions?'  Aren't we
preaching to the converted and squabbling under the bleachers?  Meanwhile,
this fast-writing guy sells a copy of Biodynamic Farming solutions by
mail.

Are you familiar with the Soil Food Web, Dr. Elaine INgrahm?

Best,
Zack

> this is a crossposting from a discsussion group i belong to, i thought
> it was important enough to share with others interested in optimum
> wellbeing....if you would prefer to not ever receive emails like this in
> the future, press reply and put remove me in subject box and i will
> stop....aloha,
> --
> forest
> forest@...
> http://www.lavazone2.com/forest/
>
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> From: "Thomas Giannou" <thomas@...>
> Reply-To: BrixTalk@...

Re: Commercial content... and Intellectural Patents

on 8/2/04 6:21 PM, info@... at
info@... wrote:

> Hi Forest and eco village list,
> I like the results of Forest's post, but a dull note in the strident tone
> struck when I opened the www of the author.  What I understand it to be is
> - a copy of Biodynamic Farming solutions, albeit that have been verified
> in brix-tests and my personal experience.
> 
> Forest, please let me know if you checked out that poster's claims?

no, i have not, i simply thought his ideas were worth sharing....i am not a
skilled farmer of any modality....i do not know or fully understand the
science he uses....i belong to the brixtalk discussion group because i am a
newbie and want to learn more about growing quality food....but i have
little or no experience in the science of farming....also i have not
investigated his website...i have listened to him for some time on brixtalk
and he seems to be one who talks with some knowledge and experience....he
also claims to consistently grow high brix food, which is sorta the proof of
the pudding....tho i admit i have not visited his farm and tested his food,
i am taking his word for it at the moment...

>  Do
> you agree that is a 'copy of Biodynamic Farming solutions?'

i don't know enough about biodynamic farming to know???...are you saying he
is plagerizing some biodynamic author????....

> Aren't we
> preaching to the converted and squabbling under the bleachers?

Re: Inquiry - India

Greetings Sanjay,

>... I am a Trustee of a Foundation founded by Cummins group of 
>companies in India and we strive for improving village living 
>conditions ... ... and would certainly like to
>know from your institution whether there is an ideal "eco village" in any
>part of the world and who could be contacted for the same.

I apologize for the delay in responding to your eMail.  I have been 
off-line most of this year due to illness in my family.  I am now 
catching up to answer much correspondence, on volunteer time.

Ecovillages are diverse, and none have reached perfection, that I 
know of. However, there are many good examples you can explore, and 
some of the more advanced are functioning as Living and Learning 
Centers.  For more information, please see the information at:
http://gen.ecovillage.org/activities/living-learning/living_index.html

Best wishes to you,
Linda
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Linda Joseph,
Ecovillage Network of the Americas
http://ena.ecovillage.org

64001 County Road DD, Moffat, CO  81143  USA

Phone: (719) 256-5003

Re: Re: Inquiry - India

Late response to Commercial content... and Intellectural Patents

Sorry Forest,
Been out and about.  I appreciate your answers, altho the questions you
raise would take a long time to flesh-out.  Allow me to cut and paste a
few observations.  For the sake of legibility, MY COMMENTS ARE IN CAPS.

>> Forest, please let me know if you checked out that poster's claims?
>
> no, i have not, i simply thought his ideas were worth sharing....
LIFE IS SHORT AND OUR COMMENTS GROW LONG . . .  'less is more'

>>
>> Are you familiar with the Soil Food Web, Dr. Elaine INgrahm?
>
THIS IS A MODERN MEASURE OF LIFE IN THE SOIL, and what to do to help it
along: www.soilfoodweb.com/

see biodynamics:  http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/biodynamic.html

LOTS TO STUDY!

Best,
Zachary

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Re:ecovillage special zone success

Dear list, I'm looking for info re: the western Canadian ecovillage
rezoning or special zoning success that appeared on this list last winter.
thanks. david cameron of EarthSea.

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Re: Re:ecovillage special zone success

Might you be talking about "O.U.R. Ecovillage" at Shawnigan Lake, BC?
They were able to change the zoning distribution on their property from
one-acre subdividable parcels to clustered housing (only 10 households i
think) with wilderness and farming areas intact. The housing is also off the
grid with permits--i think they're in the procss of building now. Do a
search on OUR ecovillage.

ingrid

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> Dear list, I'm looking for info re: the western Canadian ecovillage
> rezoning or special zoning success that appeared on this list last winter.
> thanks. david cameron of EarthSea.
>
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Re: Re:ecovillage special zone success

Aloha David,

Here's their site:

http://ourecovillage.org/

I visited them earlier this year, in the spring.
Beautiful site, and more importantly beautiful work creating a new 
provincial zoning category - with full support of the relevant 
provincial minister, who hand-delivered the final paperwork himself 
apparently.

cheers,
John S.

Ingrid Bauer/Jean-Claude Catry wrote:
> Might you be talking about "O.U.R. Ecovillage" at Shawnigan Lake, BC?
> They were able to change the zoning distribution on their property from
> one-acre subdividable parcels to clustered housing (only 10 households i
> think) with wilderness and farming areas intact. The housing is also off the
> grid with permits--i think they're in the procss of building now. Do a
> search on OUR ecovillage.
> 
> ingrid
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> To: <ecobalance@...>
> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 5:50 AM
> Subject: [Ecobal]Re:ecovillage special zone success
> 
> 
> 
>>Dear list, I'm looking for info re: the western Canadian ecovillage
>>rezoning or special zoning success that appeared on this list last winter.
>>thanks. david cameron of EarthSea.
>>
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