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cpwinter | 18 May 2003 17:56
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Minutes of ERPS #260

Minutes of ERPS General Meeting #260
15 May 2003

The President called the meeting to order at 8:40 PM. Members present were 
Kevin Bollinger, Bill Clawson, Rick Eversole, Sean Lynch, David Masten, 
Pierce Nichols, Julie Porter, Dan Solvin, Joyce and Steve Traugott, Adrian 
Tymes, Michael Wallis, David Weinshenker and Chris Winter. Chris Lindsey, a 
distant relative of Pierce's, attended as a guest. Bill Clawson's friend 
was also present.

Reports and discussion on agenda items were as follows:

DOCUMENTATION
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Chris Winter

	The 2003 CD-ROMs are here, and they look good "from the outside". Michael 
gave copies to renewing members present at the meeting.

INFOTECH
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Sean Lynch

	Nothing to report

LIAISONS
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Michael Wallis

	Adrian reminded us that there are only 10 schlepping days left until ISDC.
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Pierce Nichols | 18 May 2003 19:18
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Re: Minutes of ERPS #260

At 08:56 AM 5/18/2003 -0700, cpwinter <at> rahul.net wrote:
>         Pierce and Sean are trying to organize their trip to Brian Walker's
>facility to provide assistance with an HTP concentrator he acquired.

         I received a reply from Brian -- he is behind schedule and would 
like to push it back to at least the first week of June. That's not good 
for me, as I will be moving that week. We will see.

>         Pierce reported that Chuck Piper has donated an old trailer 
> that's at the
>Ranch. This is usable, but will take major renovation -- new tires and
>probably new rims, new signal lights and wiring, sandblasting and
>repainting, maybe other things. There was some discussion of whether it
>would be cost-effective to go this route, versus buying a new trailer. This
>discussion will continue on-line, accompanied by further research.

         DaveM and I took a second look yesterday. Dave is of the opinion 
that the springs need replacement as well as the tires and rims. This is 
not terribly expensive ($70/side). However, the trailer would need fairly 
extensive modifications, i.e. most of the superstructure currently on it 
would have to be removed. In my continuing research, I think I found a good 
option. Harbor Freight has a boat trailer that's the right size for $280. 
It will take a fair amount of modification to add the tower supports, and 
the capacity of the trailer is listed as only 600 lbs.

         -p

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Doug Jones | 18 May 2003 21:36

Re: Minutes of ERPS #260

Pierce Nichols wrote:
 > DaveM and I took a second look yesterday. Dave is of the opinion that
 > the springs need replacement as well as the tires and rims. This is
 > not terribly expensive ($70/side). However, the trailer would need
 > fairly extensive modifications, i.e. most of the superstructure
 > currently on it would have to be removed. In my continuing research,
 > I think I found a good option. Harbor Freight has a boat trailer
 > that's the right size for $280. It will take a fair amount of
 > modification to add the tower supports, and the capacity of the
 > trailer is listed as only 600 lbs.

You're probably better off buying new- that "free" trailer was starting
to sound like a bad joke- "A-yup, she's fine, 'cept for the tires, 
wheels, springs, paint, wiring.... Shocks?  She ain't got no shocks, 
boy, she's seen it *all*!"  Seriously, though, it is starting to sound 
like a major labor sink.

Our 5K test stand is built on a Haulin Trailers 4' x 8' dump trailer 
purchased from Home Depot.  It has a rated load of 1820 lbs, and we only 
went a little over gross on the latest rebuild :)  I think purchase 
price was something like $400.  During the rebuild we welded the tongue 
to defeat the dump feature and make the tongue caster track properly.

Doug (there's my $0.02 worth, and worth what ya paid for it)
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David Masten | 18 May 2003 22:09

Re: Minutes of ERPS #260

On Sun, 2003-05-18 at 12:36, Doug Jones wrote:

> You're probably better off buying new- that "free" trailer was starting
> to sound like a bad joke- "A-yup, she's fine, 'cept for the tires, 
> wheels, springs, paint, wiring.... Shocks?  She ain't got no shocks, 
> boy, she's seen it *all*!"  Seriously, though, it is starting to sound 
> like a major labor sink.

After looking at it and considering all that needs to be repaired, we
could just buy all the parts and fabricate a trailer ourselves for less
effort than fixing that one.

That trailer is not even worth taking to a scrap yard.

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David Masten <dmasten <at> piratelabs.org>
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