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gerardg53 | 11 Jul 2011 12:20
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[Skate] First message in new season: first results

Thialf summer races (09-07-2011)

Women:
500m:
1.	Floor van den Brand: 40,92
2.	Moniek Klijnstra (A1): 41,78
3.	Britt van der Star (A2): 41,92
1.000m:
1.	Britt van der Star (A2): 1.28,01
2.	Renske Winters: 1.28,15
3.	Lara van Ruyen (A2): 1.28,32
1.500m:
1.	Jorien ter Mors: 2.03,57
2.	Wendy Looijenga (A1): 2.07,43
3.	Sanne van Kerkhof: 2.09,04

Men:
500m:
1.	Gerben Jorritsma (B2) : 37,54 
2.	Ted-Jan Bloemen: 37,62
3.	Kasrten van Zeijl: 37,92
1.000m:
1.	Marco Lubbers: 1.15,81
2.	Bjorn Postma: 1.15,98
3.	Jorrit Oosten: 1.16,12
1.500m:
1.	Ted-Jan Bloemen: 1.51,30
2.	Karsten van Zeijl: 1.52,21
3.	Freek van der Wart: 1.54,07
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robertkoorneef | 11 Jul 2011 12:25
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RE: [Skate] First message in new season: first results

interesting participation of famous Dutch shorttrackers....

Robert K.

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Thialf summer races (09-07-2011)

Women:
500m:
1. Floor van den Brand: 40,92
2. Moniek Klijnstra (A1): 41,78
3. Britt van der Star (A2): 41,92
1.000m:
1. Britt van der Star (A2): 1.28,01
2. Renske Winters: 1.28,15
3. Lara van Ruyen (A2): 1.28,32
1.500m:
1. Jorien ter Mors: 2.03,57
2. Wendy Looijenga (A1): 2.07,43
3. Sanne van Kerkhof: 2.09,04

Men:
500m:
1. Gerben Jorritsma (B2) : 37,54
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Hovde Robert | 11 Jul 2011 12:28
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RE: [Skate] First message in new season: first results

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interesting participation of famous Dutch shorttrackers....

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robertkoorneef | 11 Jul 2011 12:32
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RE: [Skate] First message in new season: first results

Sanne van Kerkhof, Annita van Doorn, Yara van Kerkhof, Niels Kerstholt, Sjinkie Knegt, Daan Breeuwsma....

Robert K.

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interesting participation of famous Dutch shorttrackers....

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I must admit that I don't know the names of even famous short trackers. Could you name them, please?

Robert Hovde

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Lars Finsen | 12 Jul 2011 19:42
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[Skate] Oscar Diary & 1990

Hi,
I have published the Feb 26 entry at: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/ 
Oscar/eod110226.shtml

Norwegian version: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/od110226.shtml

A couple of especially interesting pairs, I think. Note also the  
contemporary attitude towards the 10000m referred to right before its  
start. Worthy of comment?

I forgot to mention the address of the simulated 5-country matches  
for 1990 here: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/5LK/5lk1990.shtml

Here is the Oscar Diary entry without any images or formatting, for  
your ease of commenting:

Both titles defended

A hundred years ago today, a posse of Nevada ranchers committed the  
last armed massacre of Indians to date when they killed 8 out of a  
band of 12 lead by Shoshone Mike, who had killed 4 ranchers in Washoe  
County. Three adult men, two women, two male adolescents and three  
children were the victims in addition to Ed Hogle of the posse. The 4  
survivors, a woman and three children, were captured. One of the  
children survived until 1992. Some of the Indians only had bows and  
arrows to defend themselves with.

Way down in the Antarctic, Scott was on his way to Corner Camp, his  
79° depot. The going was tough and men and animals were tired. They  
rested after just 5km, and Scott notes that he thinks the men are too
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Lars Finsen | 16 Jul 2011 14:25
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[Skate] 1991

Hi,
I've published the 1991 edition of the Ortygia Cup (simulated 5- 
country matches) at: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/5LK/5lk1991.shtml  
(sorry, Norwegian only), and eagerly looking forward to an exciting  
season with many interesting new countries.

The memories from these seasons are becoming more and more intimate.  
Apparently I had become even more avidly interested than before, and  
I travelled a lot to meets. Never went to Sarayevo, though. Did any  
of you? The memories must be priceless. Lucky for us that we got that  
great championship just in the nick of time before the whole thing  
was destroyed. Unlucky for us Norwegians that our king decided to die  
just then and the NRK stopped all sport broadcasts. Does anyone of  
you have tapes?

The world championship in Heerenveen was a weird experience, too. I  
visited Frogner Stadion one of the days, believe it was the Sunday,  
to make some historical research at the museum, watching the races on  
TV there with other fans, researching in-between. But outside there  
were veteran races going on, and one of the participants was --- Knut  
Johannesen! Clearly recognisable style, but he managed to fall 3  
times during his 3000 m. Oddly, this meet is not registered in  
Preben's database, except with some few junior results. Kuppern, btw,  
was still able to skate under 5.10 outdoor lowland those years.

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Lars Finsen | 27 Jul 2011 20:31
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[Skate] Oscar Diary.

Hi,
I've found time to publish the Mar 4 entry. It's at: http:// 
www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/eod110304.shtml

Norwegian version at http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/od110304.shtml

As usual very grateful for any comment, criticism, addition and  
subtraction. Could you identify this antisemite Raabe for me, for  
example?

You can read the image text by hovering over the image. Could you  
tell me what you can read, and what browser you are using?

Here is the text in full, without formatting, links or images:

News this week: Monday: The PM of France, Aristide Briand,  
demissions, and is replaced the day after by Ernest Monis. On Tuesday  
western Norway is hit by a violent storm. On Wednesday, Bokken  
Lasson, daughter of Oda Kroghs, gives a singing soiree at the house  
of the craftsman club in Hamar. José Batlle y Ordóñes is elected  
president of Uruguay. Wednesday: Manuel Enrique Araujo is made  
president of El Salvador. Thursday: First performance of the  
Prometheus symphony by Aleksandr Skriabin. On Saturday, a 100 years  
ago today, the Russians celebrated the 50th anniversary of the  
liberation of 23 million serfs by Aleksandr II. Meanwhile, the Duma  
voted down prime minister Pjotr Stolypin’s proposal to give the  
Poles some degree of local democracy. Also on the same day, US  
congress discuss the inclusion of Arizona and New Mexico as new  
states in the union, without arriving to a conclusion.
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Dirk Broer | 28 Jul 2011 02:22
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Re: [Skate] Oscar Diary.

Raabe will be the Wilhelm Raabe discussed in http://www.jstor.org/pss/3200571

From: Lars Finsen 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 8:31 PM
To: speed_skating@... 
Subject: [Skate] Oscar Diary.

  
Hi,
I've found time to publish the Mar 4 entry. It's at: http:// 
www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/eod110304.shtml

Norwegian version at http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/od110304.shtml

As usual very grateful for any comment, criticism, addition and 
subtraction. Could you identify this antisemite Raabe for me, for 
example?

You can read the image text by hovering over the image. Could you 
tell me what you can read, and what browser you are using?

Here is the text in full, without formatting, links or images:

News this week: Monday: The PM of France, Aristide Briand, 
demissions, and is replaced the day after by Ernest Monis. On Tuesday 
western Norway is hit by a violent storm. On Wednesday, Bokken 
Lasson, daughter of Oda Kroghs, gives a singing soiree at the house 
of the craftsman club in Hamar. José Batlle y Ordóñes is elected 
president of Uruguay. Wednesday: Manuel Enrique Araujo is made 
president of El Salvador. Thursday: First performance of the
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Dirk Broer | 28 Jul 2011 02:52
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Re: [Skate] Oscar Diary/Weary Willie?.

IE9: Weary Willie?
Chrome: Weary Willie?
Firfox5:Weary Willie?

From: Dirk Broer 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 2:22 AM
To: Speed_skating@... 
Subject: Re: [Skate] Oscar Diary.

  
Raabe will be the Wilhelm Raabe discussed in http://www.jstor.org/pss/3200571

From: Lars Finsen 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 8:31 PM
To: mailto:speed_skating%40yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [Skate] Oscar Diary.

Hi,
I've found time to publish the Mar 4 entry. It's at: http:// 
www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/eod110304.shtml

Norwegian version at http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/od110304.shtml

As usual very grateful for any comment, criticism, addition and 
subtraction. Could you identify this antisemite Raabe for me, for 
example?

You can read the image text by hovering over the image. Could you 
tell me what you can read, and what browser you are using?
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Lars Finsen | 28 Jul 2011 13:07
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Re: [Skate] Oscar Diary.


Den 28. jul. 2011 kl. 02.22 skreiv Dirk Broer:
> Raabe will be the Wilhelm Raabe discussed in http://www.jstor.org/ 
> pss/3200571
>

Yes, I considered him, but apparently this one was a member of the  
Reichstag. Though it isn't stated explicitly, so it could be the  
author that the article refers to. Maybe he wasn't a social democrat  
either, but in those days you could be an antisemite and social  
democrat at the same time, especially in Germany.

> IE9: Weary Willie?
> Chrome: Weary Willie?
> Firfox5:Weary Willie?
>

I see, so all browsers use the title text now. I put a longer  
description in the alt text, but only the disabled will see that now.  
I'd better change it.

Thanks,
LEF

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