headers
M Kok & A Vermaat | 1 Aug 2008 13:30
Picon

RE: [Skate] Eerik Idarand

In the national results the ISU gave (see mail of Marcel Warnaar) Eirik
Idarand is not mentioned, despite the several national records he skated
last season! Is this a confirmation of what Finn read in the Baltic Times.
Rather drastic to leave him out of the results!

Arend Vermaat

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Speed_skating@... [mailto:Speed_skating@...]
Namens Finn Arnesen
Verzonden: donderdag 24 juli 2008 22:23
Aan: speed_skating@...
Onderwerp: [Skate] Eerik Idarand

Can anybody please confirm this one, from "The Baltic Times"?

regards,
Finn

         Estonian speed skater to represent Latvia

 	  

Would the last to
leave the country please turn out the lights?

The local media recently announced that Estonian speed
skater Eerik Idarand will compete for the Republic of Latvia. Articles
carried
detailed descriptions of who handled his application, but failed to mention
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
T.B.Hansen | 1 Aug 2008 15:30
Picon
Favicon

[Skate] Re: New speedskating webiste

Lars Finsen:

> Good initiative, I think. We need something like that in Norway, too.  

Agreed!

> Curiously, almost all of our top  
> skaters in the years of our skating-empire came from a handful of  
> clubs.

Did they?

I think it was more like every skater with some ambitions left their local clubs at an early 
age, to join one of the big clubs. 

So, for instance, the 'Tønsberg trio' of the late 60's actually came from different towns and 
different clubs in the Vestfold region. So was the case for most other top level skaters at 
that time: Most went to Oslo; others to cities and clubs closer to home. Those of them who 
continued skating after ending their international carreer, went back to local clubs (if not 
always their original one).

So the big clubs were the 'regional teams' of those days, with the human and (as far as it 
went) economical resources needed to develop top level skaters.

------------
T.B.Hansen

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Marcel Warnaar | 2 Aug 2008 09:20
Picon

Re: [Skate] Eerik Idarand

If a skater wants to change from country, he has to wait for at least a 
year, before he can compete for his new country. The fact that Idarand is 
not listed as an Estonian here, will be an advantage for him....

Marcel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "M Kok & A Vermaat" <adsl596189@...>
To: <Speed_skating@...>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Skate] Eerik Idarand

In the national results the ISU gave (see mail of Marcel Warnaar) Eirik
Idarand is not mentioned, despite the several national records he skated
last season! Is this a confirmation of what Finn read in the Baltic Times.
Rather drastic to leave him out of the results!

Arend Vermaat

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Speed_skating@... [mailto:Speed_skating@...]
Namens Finn Arnesen
Verzonden: donderdag 24 juli 2008 22:23
Aan: speed_skating@...
Onderwerp: [Skate] Eerik Idarand

Can anybody please confirm this one, from "The Baltic Times"?

regards,
Finn
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Marnix Koolhaas | 3 Aug 2008 02:43
Picon
Favicon

[Skate] Junior World Cup

We have to give some credits to ISU to come up with this!!

This means that youngsters up to 19 get something more than just the WJC every year!

And also nice to include the WJC in this series - goof idea to do that in senior World Cup as well!

Also qualification-limits are not that bad:

Ladies  Men
500 m  46,00  41,50
1000 m  1.32,00  1.24,00
1500 m  2.25,00  2.10,00
3000 m / 5000 m  5.10,00  4.40,00 (3000 m)

And since lodging will be paid by the organisations - it's a great chance to stimulate the members to take
their recruting more serious. Thery even support small teams more than the bigs!

f) The organizer is obliged to pay or reimburse board and lodging expenses from dinner the evening before
until breakfast on the morning after the Competition for (up to) 2 skaters and 1 team leader from each
participating Member.

The allowed entries:
An ISU Member may enter a maximum of 10 competitors per category (10 ladies and 10 men) for an ISU Junior World
Cup Competition. Subject to the qualifying times criteria of paragraph 4.1 above, maximum 5 competitors
may be entered for each individual event. A maximum of one team may be entered for each of the Team Pursuit events.
However, for the final Competition in the ISU Junior World Cup 2008/2009 an ISU Member may enter a maximum of
5 competitors per category (5 Ladies and 5 Men), and a maximum of 3 competitors for each individual event.
For the ISU World Junior Speed Skating Championships 2009 the entry quotas and entry rules for these
Championships apply.
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 1 comment |
headers
Marnix Koolhaas | 3 Aug 2008 02:52
Picon
Favicon

[Skate] supplement to ISU comm. 1521

ISU seems not yet used to skating-results in june - so they had a too early deadline for their overview of
national best-results. Since the season-break is july 1st (who decided to do that? Very discriminating
for the Southern Hemisphere!!)

This strange rule made following review for Argentin the correct one

Ushuaia = Laguna Victoria

ARGENTINA 2007-2008 best results

MEN

500 meter

37,71     Jose Ignacio Fazio                Calgary                  12.03.2008

44,14     Juan Gutierrez                     Salt Lake City        03.11.2007

61,10     Federico Chaves                 Ushuaia                 28.06.2008

67,60     Gaston Chaves                     Ushuaia                 28.06.2008

1000 meter

1.13,46  Jose Ignacio Fazio                Calgary                  16.03.2008

1.27,83  Juan Gutierrez                     Salt Lake City        04.11.2007

2.10,30 Federico Chaves                 Ushuaia                 29.06.2008
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
T.B.Hansen | 3 Aug 2008 15:48
Picon
Favicon

[Skate] Re: Junior World Cup

Marnix Koolhaas:

> Only negative impliccation: this will put the focus of young skaters even more to single 
distances. End of allround in the near future?

Agreed: Very positive intitiative, with some hints of how to organize the real WCp in the 
future.

But of course it's utter stupid to focus junior meets on the aspects of speed skating that's 
less appreciated by the fans. More than two decades of single distance focus has shown that 
this is NOT 'the future of speed skating' -- it's an effective method to decrease the fanbase...

----------
T.B.Hansen

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Speed_skating/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Speed_skating/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
joe gier | 6 Aug 2008 06:28
Picon
Favicon

[Skate] Sean Maw

Is Sean still a listmember?  I have questions
concerning safety matts/pads for ST.
Joe

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Speed_skating/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Speed_skating/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    mailto:Speed_skating-digest@... 
    mailto:Speed_skating-fullfeatured@...

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    Speed_skating-unsubscribe@...

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Permalink | Reply | 3 comments |
headers
Sean Maw | 6 Aug 2008 08:18
Picon
Favicon

Re: [Skate] Sean Maw


On Tue, 5 Aug 2008, joe gier wrote:

> Is Sean still a listmember?  I have questions
> concerning safety matts/pads for ST.

Hey Joe,

Yes, I am, and I'm actively working on both LT and ST pads these days.

Fire away ...

Sean

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Speed_skating/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Speed_skating/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    mailto:Speed_skating-digest@...
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 2 comments |
headers
Keessie | 6 Aug 2008 23:52
Picon

[Skate] No visa for cheek


Shame shame shame the future president of the US can't get into China!!!

 From yahoo news:

Olympic gold medalist and outspoken Darfur activist Joey Cheek has had 
his visa revoked by the Chinese embassy, hours before the speedskating 
champion was set to fly to China. And he wasn't even planning on wearing 
a mask when he got there.

Chinese officials don't need a reason to revoke anyone's visa but, in 
their eyes, they had plenty of reasons to snatch Cheek's. He is the 
founder of Team Darfur, a group of 70 athletes whose goal it is to raise 
global awareness of the human-rights violations taking part in the 
Darfur region of Sudan. China's military, economic and diplomatic ties 
to Sudan have been well-publicized in the lead-up to the Games."

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/news?slug=ap-cheek-visa&prov=ap&type=lgns

Heya!!!!

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Speed_skating/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 2 comments |
headers
Hans Wilbrink | 7 Aug 2008 00:02
Picon

RE: [Skate] No visa for cheek

Olympics: China revokes visa of US Olympic medallist and activist

Joey Cheek is the president and co-founder of Team Darfur, a group of
athletes formed to help end ethnic killings in Sudan

Elana Schor in Washington (guardian.co.uk)

Wednesday August 06

Chinese authorities have abruptly revoked the visa of 2006 winter Olympic
gold-medallist and Darfur activist Joey Cheek, prompting a protest by the US
government and further marring the start of the Beijing games.

Cheek is the president and co-founder of Team Darfur, a group of athletes
formed to nudge China into helping end the ethnic killings in Sudan without
derailing the Olympics.

Cheek, who won the 2006 winter Olympic speed-skating competition, said his
visa was yanked hours before his slated departure for China.

"I didn't see it coming," Cheek told the Associated Press. "That was a big
shock."

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said the US would formally object to the
manoeuvre against Cheek, which came hours before George Bush prepares to
publicly criticise China's human rights record.

Bush plans to put the US on record "in firm opposition to China's detention
of political dissidents, human rights advocates and religious activists"
during a speech tomorrow in Thailand, according to an advance copy released
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 1 comment |

Gmane