Lars Finsen | 1 May 2006 01:15
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Re: [Skate] in search of Kim Yong


Dirk Broer wrote:
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> A certain Kim Pung (note: also no third part) raced all his
> known personal best time in former East Berlin, 14/16-02-1975
> during the Pretenia races and is also a likely candidate.

Pretenia races? What kind of races are they?

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kv15_03_6 | 1 May 2006 01:50
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Re: [Skate] USS suing athletes????

greg garton wrote:

> And why are we discussing USS 'issues' on Keesie's forum? because
> we don't have our 'own'. It doesn't seem to bother Keesie,

I doesn't bother me at all greg, however this forum is not
Keesie's. I'm just a listmember like anyone, and I don't own
it at all.

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Dirk Broer | 1 May 2006 03:09
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Re: [Skate] in search of Kim Yong

Judged by the age and nationality of the participants of these races they 
were a sort of world socialist jouth games

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From: "Lars Finsen" <lars.finsen@...>
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Subject: Re: [Skate] in search of Kim Yong

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> Dirk Broer wrote:
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>> A certain Kim Pung (note: also no third part) raced all his
>> known personal best time in former East Berlin, 14/16-02-1975
>> during the Pretenia races and is also a likely candidate.
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greg | 1 May 2006 04:12
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[Skate] Re: USS Issues...

Pat
 'Enlisting new members'was an important issue at the Board Meeting, 
as membership was down drastically. The Athlete Reps were called 
upon to be more accessible, and after various things were discussed, 
I stood and talked about the need for a greater 'interactivity' with 
our USS website, that in my view, it was a 'dead end'[for potential 
newbies] as far as modern websites go; no Forum bulletinboard, and, 
as anyone who has gone there for a look knows, most if not all the 
youth in the Ist world spend a considerable amount of time 
on 'MYspace', [72 million], so for USS not to have some action there 
was a wasted resource, no?
but whoever at USS created the site monday, after the meeting, 
created it as if 'USS' was a person. The USS staffer who initiated 
the Site need to enter USS also as a 'Myspace group', so 'myspacers' 
surfing thru 'groups' can see us.
I sent a 'myspace' message to USS re: this detail, and also to the 
fact that their is no 'Myspace'Icon/link on the old USS website main 
page to take us over there.
 and Matt didn't set it up, he was just the first one 'invited', as 
he told us.
  As I said, if this just gets us one new member, it was worth it; 
but it should be more fruitful than that, looking at 'Myspace' 
statistics.
Greg

--- In Speed_skating@..., Patrick Seltsam <pseltsam <at> ...> 
wrote:
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> I did have a quick look at the MySpace group Matt set up...but, 
umm... I'm not sure how to say this but; I don't feel I belong on 
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matt hickson | 1 May 2006 04:43
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Re: [Skate] Re: USS Issues...

You're right i didn't set up the usspeedskating myspace profile, i did however set up a usspeedskating
group, something like a forum, post topics here if you like, thanks 
  http://groups.myspace.com/usspeedskating

  matt

  greg <gggrtn@...> wrote:
  Pat
'Enlisting new members'was an important issue at the Board Meeting, 
as membership was down drastically. The Athlete Reps were called 
upon to be more accessible, and after various things were discussed, 
I stood and talked about the need for a greater 'interactivity' with 
our USS website, that in my view, it was a 'dead end'[for potential 
newbies] as far as modern websites go; no Forum bulletinboard, and, 
as anyone who has gone there for a look knows, most if not all the 
youth in the Ist world spend a considerable amount of time 
on 'MYspace', [72 million], so for USS not to have some action there 
was a wasted resource, no?
but whoever at USS created the site monday, after the meeting, 
created it as if 'USS' was a person. The USS staffer who initiated 
the Site need to enter USS also as a 'Myspace group', so 'myspacers' 
surfing thru 'groups' can see us.
I sent a 'myspace' message to USS re: this detail, and also to the 
fact that their is no 'Myspace'Icon/link on the old USS website main 
page to take us over there.
and Matt didn't set it up, he was just the first one 'invited', as 
he told us.
  As I said, if this just gets us one new member, it was worth it; 
but it should be more fruitful than that, looking at 'Myspace' 
statistics.
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greg garton | 1 May 2006 05:24
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Re: [Skate] Re: USS Issues...

thanks, Matt
  and Pat, 
    it takes [7 days?72 hrs? whatever] after joining a 'myspace group' to be able to post in a forum, ergo no
comments yet.

matt hickson <dead_legs03@...> wrote:
  You're right i didn't set up the usspeedskating myspace profile, i did however set up a usspeedskating
group, something like a forum, post topics here if you like, thanks 
  http://groups.myspace.com/usspeedskating

  matt

  greg <gggrtn@...> wrote:
  Pat
'Enlisting new members'was an important issue at the Board Meeting, 
as membership was down drastically. The Athlete Reps were called 
upon to be more accessible, and after various things were discussed, 
I stood and talked about the need for a greater 'interactivity' with 
our USS website, that in my view, it was a 'dead end'[for potential 
newbies] as far as modern websites go; no Forum bulletinboard, and, 
as anyone who has gone there for a look knows, most if not all the 
youth in the Ist world spend a considerable amount of time 
on 'MYspace', [72 million], so for USS not to have some action there 
was a wasted resource, no?
but whoever at USS created the site monday, after the meeting, 
created it as if 'USS' was a person. The USS staffer who initiated 
the Site need to enter USS also as a 'Myspace group', so 'myspacers' 
surfing thru 'groups' can see us.
I sent a 'myspace' message to USS re: this detail, and also to the 
fact that their is no 'Myspace'Icon/link on the old USS website main 
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cecepuran | 1 May 2006 05:26
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Re: [Skate] USS Issues...

--- In Speed_skating@..., Patrick Seltsam <pseltsam <at> ...> 
wrote:
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> I did have a quick look at the MySpace group Matt set up...but, 
umm... I'm not sure how to say this but; I don't feel I belong on 
MySpace any more than I belong at high school dance...
>  
> I suppose it MIGHT help if someone actually posted something in the 
actual forum, though.
>  
> Pat S
> 

Hey Pat,

I can understand your sentiments about hanging out on MySpace. I did 
find it interesting though from MySpace that you and USS share some 
pretty close demographics...

Pat - male, 40 years old, libra (per the SkateBase)
USS - male, 40 years old, capricorn (per the MySpace site) 

the only thing is, the USS MySpace site had over 40 friends, I can't 
find any data on that category for you...what do you figure for you?

:)

Carl Cepuran

 
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Patrick Seltsam | 1 May 2006 05:41

RE: [Skate] USS Issues...

> Pat - male, 40 years old, libra (per the SkateBase)
> USS - male, 40 years old, capricorn (per the MySpace site)
> 
> the only thing is, the USS MySpace site had over 40 friends, I can't
> find any data on that category for you...what do you figure for you?

I'm no Libra, baby.  I'm a Scorpio all the way....for whatever that is
worth.

And I don't know how many friends I have.  I'll have to wait until I win
the lottery to find out.

And I can assure you that I'M not "USSpeedskating"... 

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Øyvind Erstad | 1 May 2006 09:13
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[Skate] 1.may

1.may today and as a worker I will use my opportunity and say congratulation to everybody on the list. In our
part of the world, the oversatisfied and overweight one (and more peculiar; the speedskating one) many
seen this day as rather redundant, as some mysterious and even suspicious dinosaur from the past and not
necessary to celebrate at all, but looking with our blind eye on the other part of the world, where
speedskating is peculiar for real and where the words satisfied and overweight are unknown to most of the
people, many of us still see 1.may as a day contained with sense and at least on day in the year where we can
indicate our solidarity with the poor.     

regards øyvind erstad    

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Remco Knooihuizen | 1 May 2006 20:58
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Re: [Skate] in search of Kim Yong

Dirk Broer:

> In search for the North-Korean skater Kim Yong I need
> more info to be able to trace him I'm afraid.
> Exact dates and places would be fine, as would be the last
> part of his name, as -most- Korean names come in three.
> 
> At the moment Kim Gion Man seems a likely candidate,
> but we do not have known distances from him longer than 3000m
> 
> A certain Kim Pung (note: also no third part) raced all his
> known personal best time in former East Berlin, 14/16-02-1975
> during the Pretenia races and is also a likely candidate.

I would be *extremely* cautious identifying your mysterious Kim Yong 
with either of Kim Gion Man or Kim Pung, for a number of reasons, most 
of them obvious:

- Kim is the most common surname in South Korea (22%), and there is no 
reason to suspect it is any different in North Korea. Currently, that 
would result in some 5 million North Korean Kims. It will have been a 
bit less in the 1970s, but nevertheless the chances that Kims with 
*similar* names are not actually the *same* person are endlessly greater 
than the chances that they are. (The same goes for Lee (15%), Park (9%) 
and Choi (5%).)

- Although a one-syllable family name and two-syllable given name is by 
far the most common structure in Korean naming, other structures (1+1, 
1+3, 2+1) are by no means seldom. So whereas you can be pretty certain 
that a Dutch name like "Lousewies van der" is missing something, simply 
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