Julie Cook | 2 Sep 07:46 2002

Re: Howell C. Jones III Sportsmanship Award

Eric Christensen wrote:

OK kids... time to put your money where your mouse is! This is an
official challenge!!!! I'm in for $250. Come on... match me! Or at
least kick in what you can.

Dillon Pyron wrote:

> I'm self-employed (read unemployed) and I don't have a car.  But I'm in,
> because it's "a good thing".
>
> Julie, expect my check next week.
>

The support from Eric and Dillon is fantastic and I hope you are inspiration
for others. You have also changed the outlook of the way I'll handle this.
Instead of making your check to the race team, if you haven't already, make it
out to me and I will immediately open a savings account to put this money in.
The cost of this year's award will be $300.  The Jones family is sending $150
and Rusty and I are adding $50 so all I need for this year is another $100.
That being the case I can put the remainder of the money in a savings account
so that it will be there for the next few years.  This will be better than
running it through our racing account.

I hope that the same bank that let us open a dba account for our racing
account will let me open something similar for the award account...only
savings account that I can easily get to next year.

Thank you for your support.
Julie
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TonyJag3 | 3 Sep 05:08 2002
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Re: Need New Fiberglass

I understand that you can get down to 1/3 of the fiberglass weight by using a 
carbon fiber laminate with foam core. But your'e right about the cost.

TonyJ

David Pomfret | 3 Sep 16:02 2002

Re: Need New Fiberglass

Chris,
 
Guess I didn't describe the alignment tool too well.  This is to locate a new hole in the fiberglass body and have it line up perfectly with the already, chassis mounted dzus receptacle.  I'll draw a picture and e-mail it to you.
 
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [F500] Need New Fiberglass

Hi Dave -
 
Thanks for the idea.  I am intrigued.  I think I understand, but not clearly.  I can draw it out and figure out the true purpose on my own (being an engineer with a practical bend).  I would be most happy buying such a tool from someone who can expertly fashion it. . .
 
As I understand it, this just simplifies drilling through an already drilled hole (which I understand is vitally important).  A more accurate way to get a matching hole in the other piece of fiberglass.  Both holes being drilled before either side of the dzus is installed.  Tweezers not a big help, but somewhat to help align the tube.
 
Thanks!
 
Chris Eckles
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [F500] Need New Fiberglass

Chris,
 
I'm sure others can help you with the fiberglass questions but there is a "simple" trick to lining up the holes for dzus fasteners.  You need to make your own alignment tool.  Take a reasonably thin but stiff piece of sheet metal (not aluminum).  Form a large pair of "tweezers" out of the sheet metal.  When finished you will have something that is about 2 inches wide and the length will be determined by the longest reach you have to make to a dzus fastener.  When you bend the "tweezers" do it around something like a 1/4" rod.  Now braze or weld a short piece of tubing of the same diameter as the inside of the spring side of the dzus so that it protrudes from one side of the pincher end of the tweezers.  Clamp the pincher end of the tweezers together and drill through the tubing and through the other side of tweezers.  Now mount the spring side of the dzus, position the body part where it belongs, slide the tweezers on either side of the body part. the tubing goes into the hole in the mounted half of the dzus and the hole on the other side of the tweezers is on the outside of the body part to be drilled and perfectly lined up with the dzus hidden on the other side of the body part. 
 
Hope I have explained this well enough, if not let me know and I'll do a drawing.  I think with a little pleading we could get Jerry Ryan to make up these for all of us.
 
Dave Pomfret
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 5:00 PM
Subject: [F500] Need New Fiberglass


How do I make my fiberglass look better?
 
It's pretty rough now.  One big crack.  A lot of small chips, where dime size pieces of the edge have flaked off.  Most of the edges are rough.  All of the dzus fasteners are rough, as they were painted with the body after installation.  Half line up poorly with the attachment wire.  Several of the fiberglass pieces are wavey, and have surface defects that just painting won't cure.
 
I suppose that I could give it all another coat of fiberglass.  But I want a lighter car, and re-surfacing what I have will cost a number of pounds.  And re-locating the dzus fasteners - that sounds hard.  Filling in a hole, then re-drilling the same hole 1/8" away.  Right now it takes a minute and a half to get the body off, and 5-10 minutes to get it back on.
 
I spoke with Mike Quadrini, and he has new bodies for the KBS Mk 5/7, but not for the earlier Mk 3.  KBS is either out of business or next best thing, several weeks of daily phone calls and emails have gone unanswered.  So a new body off the rack is out.
 
I suppose that I can "make a mold" from the existing parts (not sure how to do that, but I could learn).  But the fiberglass body is a bit asymmetrical.  And the side pods don't go on so good anymore, after they were squeezed a bit.
 
Right now, my top idea is to find a local shop, either fiberglass or race, that will do everything for me.  But I suspect that I'm not going to like the price.  <g>
 
I like Art Trier's wing-nut style dzus fasteners, too.  So no tool is needed to get them off.  Not too pricey from Pegasus.  A bit of an aerodynamic loss, I imagine. . .  <g>
 
I suspect that I'll have to install the dzus fasteners in any fiberglass I get (unless the fabricators will do this, too).  Any tricks?  Seems like alignment would be tricky.  And they will only go on nicely if alignment is perfect.  Though I suppose if I am drilling both holes I could clamp together and drill through both layers of fiberglass at once. . .
 
Any tricks with aerodynamics?  With how much of the engine to cover or not?  I have the GCR, which tells some sizing info.
 
Chris Eckles
Atlanta
KBS Mk3
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Julie Cook | 3 Sep 16:53 2002

Party Date

Jeremy,

2SI wants to send someone to present the Sportsmanship award again this
year. I need to let them know the date. Have you decided when you want
to have the party?

Julie

Gebhardt, Robert (R. | 3 Sep 17:01 2002
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RE: Party Date

The few people I've talked with up here all thought it had been decided for Thursday. Not that it matters, but
I personally won't be down there until late Wednesday night.

Bob Gebhardt	
G?G Motorsports

-----Original Message-----
From: Julie Cook [mailto:jcook03@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:53 AM
To: F500
Subject: [F500] Party Date

Jeremy,

2SI wants to send someone to present the Sportsmanship award again this
year. I need to let them know the date. Have you decided when you want
to have the party?

Julie
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Elivan Goulart | 3 Sep 21:49 2002
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Pi Data System

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to know if anyone is interested in purchasing a Pi System 
Certificate for $750 that I received for last year's Runoffs.  I don't use 
Pi System, so I have no use for it, if anyone wants it for $450 cash let me 
know ASAP or best offer.  I only have till sept. 13th to use it up, so hurry 
if anyone is interested.

See you all at the Runoffs,
Elivan Goulart
203-913-4232

>From: "Gebhardt, Robert (R.)" <rgebhard@...>
>Reply-To: f500@...
>To: "'f500@...'" <f500@...>
>Subject: RE: [F500] Party Date
>Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:01:09 -0400
>
>The few people I've talked with up here all thought it had been decided for 
>Thursday. Not that it matters, but I personally won't be down there until 
>late Wednesday night.
>
>Bob Gebhardt
>G?G Motorsports
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Julie Cook [mailto:jcook03@...]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:53 AM
>To: F500
>Subject: [F500] Party Date
>
>
>Jeremy,
>
>2SI wants to send someone to present the Sportsmanship award again this
>year. I need to let them know the date. Have you decided when you want
>to have the party?
>
>Julie
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Jamie Clark | 3 Sep 22:46 2002

Re: Pi Data System

On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Elivan Goulart wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Just wanted to know if anyone is interested in purchasing a Pi System 
> Certificate for $750 that I received for last year's Runoffs.  I don't use 
> Pi System, so I have no use for it, if anyone wants it for $450 cash let me 
> know ASAP or best offer.  I only have till sept. 13th to use it up, so hurry 
> if anyone is interested.

Try posting to Formula Mazda forum and FC/FF forums as they are heavy user
of Pi Systems.

Good luck at Runoffs!

	Jamie

> See you all at the Runoffs,
> Elivan Goulart
> 203-913-4232
> 
> 
> >From: "Gebhardt, Robert (R.)" <rgebhard@...>
> >Reply-To: f500@...
> >To: "'f500@...'" <f500@...>
> >Subject: RE: [F500] Party Date
> >Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:01:09 -0400
> >
> >The few people I've talked with up here all thought it had been decided for 
> >Thursday. Not that it matters, but I personally won't be down there until 
> >late Wednesday night.
> >
> >Bob Gebhardt
> >G?G Motorsports
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Julie Cook [mailto:jcook03@...]
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:53 AM
> >To: F500
> >Subject: [F500] Party Date
> >
> >
> >Jeremy,
> >
> >2SI wants to send someone to present the Sportsmanship award again this
> >year. I need to let them know the date. Have you decided when you want
> >to have the party?
> >
> >Julie
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BRYAN POWELL | 4 Sep 03:04 2002
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Suspension Balance

Does the foot print weight at each tire need to be balanced relative to left 
to right sides as a general rule? We have been experimenting with suspension 
rigging on our 84' Zink-19 and we have approx. 40 lbs split in the front 
suspension when weighing the car on four seperate scales. Is this a big deal 
and will the car bite better when turning into the heavy side?

Bryan Powell

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Jeremy Swank | 4 Sep 03:52 2002
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Re: Party Date


Julie

I was hoping to have the party on thursday evening as friday will be a day 
off. In talking with the Northern folk, everyone seemd ok with this.  Those 
down south will just have to let me know.  I will be sending out more info 
regarding some logistics within the next week.  Everyone stay busy 
preparing, I wish I was there with you.  Congrats to those who made it to 
the Runoffs, now the REAL work begins!!!!

Jeremy Swank

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Julie Cook | 4 Sep 06:50 2002

Re: Party Date

Jeremy Swank wrote:

> Julie
>
> I was hoping to have the party on thursday evening as friday will be a day
> off.

I assumed that to be the date, but wanted to confirm with you before I told 2SI
when to send their representative.  Lynn (Howell's sister) said that she hoped
that eventually Nick, their father, will feel up to coming to present the
award, but he isn't quite ready for that yet.

Julie


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