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OberonM | 1 Sep 1997 21:04
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gator pad failure

we have been using green gator pads in our brakes for 3 years and never had a
problem, until this year!!! i decided to ask around at my last race session
if any one else was having a problem. usually one set of pads lasts two or
three weekends
now im lucky to get 1. not very surprised i found that everyone using the
pads was having the same problem  . the heat seems to be going right through
the pad and into the backing plate. after the last race i pulled the pads out
and all 4 pads fell right off the backing plate...........doesn't make me
feel to safe.  just wanted to see if anyone else is having a problem!!!! 

please email me if youve had brake failure with these pads
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Eric D. Christensen | 2 Sep 1997 19:18

RE: gator pad failure

On Monday, September 01, 1997 12:05 PM, OberonM@... 
[SMTP:OberonM@...] wrote:
> the heat seems to be going right through
> the pad and into the backing plate. after the last race i pulled the 
pads out
> and all 4 pads fell right off the backing plate...........doesn't make 
me
> feel to safe.  just wanted to see if anyone else is having a problem!!!!

I haven't had a problem with the Gator pads, but I don't use them. 
However, I had similar problems a few years ago with JFZ Superpads. My 
advice.... be very careful! I hit the tire wall in turn 7 (the corkscrew) 
when the JFZ pads seperated from their backing plates. I know of at least 
one other fairly serious accident attributed to the same thing.

If there seems to be a problem with the Gator pads (and from your info, it 
seems that there is) then I would seriously consider running a different 
pad. The Wilwood PolyMatrix pads seem to be excellent. I've had good wear 
with them and excellent perfromance. The Hawk black pads also seem to be 
good, but they wear quite a bit faster then the Polymatrix.

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Eric D. Christensen | 3 Sep 1997 02:28

RE: F500 List New Subscriber

On Tuesday, September 02, 1997 3:12 PM, Guthrie, Conrad 
[SMTP:cguthrie@...] wrote:
> 	Are there any suggestions out there for coolant.  The car is not
> running hot, I just would like to know what is best.  Has anyone used or
> do you recommend water wetter?

Congrats on your first taste of F500 fun!

Water wetter is highly recommended. I run straight water with 1/2 bottle 
of water wetter. I don't recommend antifreeze since we don't really have 
to deal with freezing temps (excpt maybe early in the mornings at the 
Runoffs). Antifreeze actually reduces the heat transfer ability of the 
coolant.

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with them."

p.s. Ignore my freezing remark about the Runoffs Conrad. it's sort of an 
inside joke for those of us who braved the freezing temps last year... 
especially the brutal 7:45AM morning warm-up on race day. I've never seen 
race gas freeze before..... :-)
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Eric D. Christensen | 3 Sep 1997 18:59

Oznog Web Site Changes

Just a heads up for you folks,

There will be some major changes to the way the Oznog and F500 web sites 
are hosted over the next several days. This is going to require some 
downtime as I transition the pages over to a new server. I anticipate 
www.oznog.com being down off and on for the next week.

Once this is complete we'll have a faster server, a new look, updated 
content and (believe it or not) online classified ads (finally!). I'm also 
going to be splitting the Oznog Motorsports content and the F500 content 
into separate webs, as well as setting up some other non-racing (i.e. my 
real business) related webs on the server. This is really a consolidation 
of several different sites that are currently hosted on several places 
into one server to make maintenance easier for me and to enhance the value 
for you folks.

So please bear with me while I transition over the next week.

p.s. Anyone heard any interesting F500 news lately? Since I've been away 
from the track most of this season, I'm not up to date with news rumors 
and such.

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David Gill | 4 Sep 1997 20:06
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Forrest Sanco = SWD Champion

Forrest Sanco (Sanco Specialties/NovaKar J-7/AMW/Hoosier) is the 1997 SWD
Champion.  Forrest won the Labor Day weekend National at TWS.

I traveled to Denver to attend the Labor Day Double National there.  Aaron
Ellis (Red Devil/Rotax/Good Year)  won both days.  However, due to Alan
Knell's suspension breakage and my tuning nightmare (there ain't no air up
there!), Aaron's competition could have been more competitive.  Alan
(Defender/Rotax/Hoosier) and I (KBS MkV/AMW/Hoosier) each took home a 2nd
and a 3rd. Don Shaw (Phantom/Rotax/Good Year) attended but suffered rear
suspension problems and was unable to finish either race.  Don's car
appeared to me to be impeccably prepared.   Alan was leading comfortably on
Saturday and was "duking it out" with Aaron Sunday when his problems
manifested themselves.  Each of my sessions were just a little better than
the last.  On Saturday my roll bar cowling inadverdently turned off my fuel
pump, stopping me 100 yards from the finish line and 2nd place.  On Sunday,
I was starting to turn some good laps and was really beginning to bear down
and remain relatively in position with Aaron and Alan when I closed on Alan
limping around the track.  I barely had time to feel smug when my engine
began wheezing for gas.   I suffered a fuel starvation problem about half
way through the race, the likes of which I still do not understand because
I had to drive back to Texas and board a plane for Washington (D.C.).  I
was definitely sucking air into the fuel lines for some reason.

All of the named parties in this communique are, by their own accounts,
attending the Runoffs(tm), yours truly included.

dg
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Julie Cook | 4 Sep 1997 22:41
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Mid-Div Final Standings

Rusty Cook (KBS MKV/Rotax/Goodyear) is this year's Mid-Div Champion
with  Jack Walbran (KBS MK-8/Rotax/Hoosier) in second (1/2 for Fine Line
Racing). Roger Addison (Red Devil/Kawasaki/Hoosier(?)) will finish
third. I think Kenny Price (Defender/Rotax/Hoosier) will end up fourth  
with Steve Smith (KBS MK-V/Kawasaki->Rotax/Goodyear) and Nick Massey
(KBS MK-VII/AMW(?)/Hoosier) finishing fifth and sixth.

The St. Louis/Topeka races (8/24 & 8/31) saw Rusty win with Jack
finishing second and Kenny third both races. The weather was beautiful
(read no rain). St. Louis seemed to go fairly well for everyone, we all
made up for it at Topeka. Mechanical problems kept Rusty and crew busy
on the two Fine Line Racing cars but both Rusty and Jack were able to
perform well during the race. Kenny Price was trying to finish his
fourth race to make the Run-Offs when seven laps into the 23 lap race a
rod end (never could figure out how to spell heim :)) broke sending him
to the pits. Martin Dressler went into overdrive and fixed the car
sending Kenny back out with five laps to go, add one lap to enter/exit
the pits that gave Kenny 13 laps, just enough! Steve Smith suffered a
broken belt that put him out of the race before halfway.

Rusty, Jack and Kenny will be at Mid-Ohio. Both Rusty and Jack in Rotax
powered MK-8's and Kenny in his Rotax powered Defender. See you there!

Julie
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John Lewis | 9 Sep 1997 02:42
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Kettle Regional - Race Results

Spent an enjoyable weekend at Road America for the Chicago Regions' Kettle
Regional, a two day, 
two race weekend.  Here is a short summary of each F500 race:
Saturday - Race 1: 1st Place - Ron Vince' KBS/AMW/Hoosier?, 2nd Place - Ed
Pasek Red Devil/AMW/
Hoosier, 3rd Place - Darrel Greening Zink/Rotax/Hoosier.
Sunday - Race 2: 1st Place - Ed Pasek, 2nd Ron Vince', 3rd Darrel Greening.
Best Lap on Saturday was a 2:36.333 by Ron Vince', Sunday was also Ron,
with a 2:34.890.

John Lewis
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Brian Marren | 10 Sep 1997 02:29
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For Sale KBSMkVII

1994 Mk VII with fresh Rotax. Complete AMW motor, not in car.Car has 4
poles & 3 wins in NE Div. '97. Quick lift, Crank up work stand, mounted
rains & spare drys, set up help available in north east.asking $10,500.

E-mail at brianlm@... or call 860-665-7856 eves
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Eric D. Christensen | 12 Sep 1997 16:55

RE: tdr 440

On Friday, September 12, 1997 7:16 AM, David Tjarks 
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> I was wondering if you had ever heard of a TDR (Techno Design Racer?)
> 440?
> I met someone who would like to sell it to me.

Hi David,

I hpe you don't mind, but I'm cross posting this to the F500 mailing list 
since someone there may know about the TDR. Also, I think my comments 
below are probably relevent to anyone looking at older chassis or 
one-offs.

I've never seen or heard of a TDR. There are a lot of one off home built 
chassis out there. The only advice I can give you is be wary. There's 
nothing wrong with a home built chassis per se, so long as the person who 
built it had a clue as to what they were doing. Check all the welds very 
carefully. Make darn sure that the chassis was at least MIG welded, if not 
TIG and make sure the welds are clean (i.e. the guy who did the welding 
knew what he was doing). Also make sure the roll hoops meet the current 
specs, otherwise you'll only be able to use it for autocross.

A few other considerations with a one off:
1) Availability of parts. With a one off, you'll probably end up having to 
fabricate your own parts. Be sure you're willing to make that commitment. 
It can get very expensive to have parts fabricated. It can also be very 
difficult. You can't always take  a mangles A arm to a fabricator and tell 
him to "make me one of these, but straight". If you have the skills and 
access to the equipment to do your own fabrication, this is less of a 
worry. But remember that doing it yourself takes a lot of time.
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KBSENGR | 13 Sep 1997 01:28
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Re: tdr 440

Well said Eric.  One really does have to be careful with old one-offs.

If my memory is somewhat correct this car was a monocoque chassis, all alum.
 If I am correct, they had to add a tubular roll bar to satisfy SCCA.

Mike
KBS
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