ErikBaard | 16 Oct 2004 02:31

Re: HSG: hydrino - Is Bob Park disrupting the patent?

Hi All -

Just a quick note --

The story wasn't about Dr. Mills suspecting that Dr. Park interfered with his patents. I would never write
an article in service to one side like that. I wrote about the concern expressed by U.S. senators that Dr.
Park's associates are engaged in such improper behavior.

It was Dr. Zimmerman who indicated (in the audio clip) that Dr. Park has connections at the Commerce Department.

Another point -- in no way, in any article, did I ever indicate that a patent is equal to scientific
validation. Legally it does offer that benefit of the doubt, but that isn't in any way a substitute for peer review.

The article, please read it again, is about the patent process and the security of intellectual property
protections. 

Thanks,

Erik

ErikBaard | 16 Oct 2004 02:31

Dr. Park in New York Times

The New York Times has a flattering profile on Dr. Park today. It seems that he and Dr. Mills might at least
discuss farming amicably.

ErikBaard | 16 Oct 2004 02:31

the NYT Park profile

By PATRICIA COHEN
OLLEGE PARK, Md. -- Late one night in 1954, Robert L. Park was driving back to Walker Air Force Base in
Roswell, N.M., on a desolate stretch of West Texas highway. News reports of U.F.O. sightings were
practically a daily occurrence, but when he saw a dazzling blue-green light streak across the sky, he
figured out precisely what it was. After all, he was an electronics officer, a lieutenant overseeing the
installation of a new radar system in Roswell, and he recognized the fluorescent illumination of an ice
meteorite plunging into the atmosphere. 

Susana Raab for The New York Times 

Robert Park, a physicist who delights in deflating tales of alien abductions and miracle cures, during a
pause in his morning run. He is leaning against a model of the Washington Monument, with the original
behind his left shoulder. 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So he was feeling rather superior to the U.F.O.-spying hysterics when, after crossing into the New Mexico
desert, he suddenly noticed a shiny metallic disc racing along the horizon. 

"I stepped hard on the gas pedal of the Oldsmobile," Mr. Park writes, "and the saucer accelerated. I slammed
on the brakes -- and it stopped." For a moment he was convinced he was seeing a flying saucer. But when he
looked a bit more closely, he realized what had happened: "I could see that it was only my headlights,
reflecting off a single phone line strung parallel to the highway." 

Now a distinguished physicist at the University of Maryland, Mr. Park wonders, "What if that phone line
ended, and the 'spaceship' just vanished?" Would he now consider alien visitors to be at least a
possibility? Would he still be so quick to dismiss seemingly incredible claims? 

For while many professional physicists recognize him for his technical research on the structure of
crystal surfaces, to the somewhat wider audience that includes readers of his weekly newsletter and zany
inventors of all types, Mr. Park, 69, is known as a gadfly, an indefatigable debunker of alien abductions,
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ErikBaard | 16 Oct 2004 02:31

Dr. Park and cancer/ FORBES

Hi All - 

I brought the BlackLight story to Forbes. They rejected it, and then ran back when Nature cited my articles.

And then I entered journalistic hell. The editor there, Phil Ross, said he had to "attitudanalize"
(spelling?) the piece for his readers. I tried to work with them (there was even talk of making the story my
employment application) but then had to walked away to keep my integrity.

They went with Dr. Park singular perspective.

The magazine got it wrong repeatedly on basic facts, going so far as to say Dr. Mills is touting hydrinos as a
cancer cure. I know of no such work. 

In fairness to Dr. Park, Ross undoubtedly wrote much of the BlackLight section and he proved himself to be
dishonest in my daily dealings with him.

Anyway, that's only the basics. The details are more horrifying.

Warm Regards,

Erik

Simon Baker | 16 Oct 2004 02:35

Re: Re: Most galaxies older than 10 billion years?Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:15:09 PDT

Dr. Mills wrote:

>The authors of the article containing the data cited in Table 3 and Table
>4 of Chp 40 could not assign the lines.
>
>26. Bowyer, S., Science, Vol. 263, (1994), pp. 55-59.
>27. Fossi, B. C. M., et al., Astrophysical Journal, 449, (1995), pp.
>376-385.
>
>

Simon responds:
I am sorry, Dr. Mills, but I do not see how this very cryptic reply answers 
the question, or more specifically, the objection that has been raised. 
Please elaborate a bit.

Simon Baker

[I think Dr. Mills is making the case that his analysis meets with Robert Virkus' condition that all other
conventional explanations must be eliminated before we start looking at exotic mechanisms. The lines
are "unexplained". -SF]

Harut | 16 Oct 2004 02:36

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Greeting to everyone here. I am a 10th grade student Marshall high school. I love quantum physics and
science all around. I would like to study sub-atomic particals and get into depth with anti-matter, dark
matter and subjects of that nature. What would you recommend for me? I am a fast learner, andI have a very
high IQ ( I hate boasting ;-) ) 

[Keep in mind that much of what you read in HSG is generally regarded as heresy. In order to intelligently
consider new ideas, you need to be conversant in the current ideas.

First of all, check out our links to various references:
http://www.egroups.com/links/hydrino//Physics_References_000965946845/

Next, you may want to check out the Usenet newsgroup sci.physics, where allsorts of physics topics are
discussed. There is a lot of noise there however. If you don't know how to connect to it directly, you can see
it on the web at http://www.deja.com/usenet. 

A fun, popular book about modern problems in quantum physics and hopeful solutions in superstring theory
is Michio Kaku's Hyperspace. A well-known best-seller on relativity is Stephen Hawking's A Brief
History of Time.

When somebody whips out a term that I do not understand, I often search forit at Google.com. Many
specialized researchers out there publish useful references about the topics that they study, which the
search engine may be able to find. If that does not pan out, you may try searching at Britannica.com, which
offers a surprising amount of depth on a number of basic physics topics. 

Finally, there is nothing that can beat good college-level textbooks. If you really want to understand
physics, there is no substitute for textbooks--everything else that I have listed here merely gives an
overview of the subject.

How does one keep up with new stuff? Here are some resources:

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DMc74965 | 16 Oct 2004 02:38

(unknown)

[Please make sure that we stick to the productive topic inside of this thread for future responses.
Everyone's time and effort donated here for free is to be appreciated and respected. -SF]

Once again, Mills stated:

<< - the photon orbitsphere is a solution of Maxwell's equations>>

I asked for a simple demonstration of this. This should be a simple matter, 
Mills should be able to SHOW US how he plugs his photon orbitsphere solution 
into Maxwells equations:

Div(B) = 0
Div(D) = 4Pi*rho
Curl(H) = 4Pi/c*J + 1/c*dD/dt
Curl(E) + 1/cdB/dt = 0 

and arrives at a solution. Instead Mills lobs this excuse:

<< EXCUSE ME. I DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF IDLE TIME SINCE I AM RUNNING A 
VERY DYNAMIC BUSINESS. >>

I am sure your business is very dynamic. But you're the one with the theory 
you want accepted. Therefore demonstrating the photon orbitsphere is a 
solution to maxwells equations is critical to your future. Also, having 
developed the theory, you should be able to demonstrate this rather easily 
since presumably you've already done it---or are you simply making a claim? I 
think you cannot do it and are dodging the question.

<<YOU MAY UNDERSTAND THIS IF YOU EVER UNDER TAKE A 
PRIVATE VENTURE.>>
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art b Rosenblum | 16 Oct 2004 02:39

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Thanks Mike, for this simple, straight-forward intelligence. We need more
of that. 

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DMc74965 | 16 Oct 2004 02:41

(unknown)

Here is an interesting article that relates to the cosmological constant,
general relativity and curved spacetime:

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/03/science/03STAR.html
Unknown | 16 Oct 2004 02:41

(unknown)

What is the group's opinion on this claim? It seems to copy Mills' work starting on page 5.

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