community of inquiry

Hi Peirce-listers

Just wondering if anyone can help me.

The phrase "community of inquiry" is often attributed to Peirce and yet I
cannot find any instance of his actually using this phrase. Sources of this
attribution can be drawn to Matthew Lipman (amongst others), associated with
his work in Philosophy for Children
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Lipman)

Peirce definitely speaks often of the importance of community and of
inquiry, but does not tend to use these words in close association.

I was wondering if anyone knew of a passage (or passages) in Peirce's work
that would speak clearly to the association between community and inquiry?

I understand that Peirce draws a close connection between notions of
community and scientific or pragmatic truth, for example when he states that
³the opinion which is fated to be ultimately agreed to by all who
investigate, is what we mean by the truth²  (Peirce, 1878, p. 299, CP
5.407). But is this the main source of the phrase "community of inquiry"?

Any help appreciated.

Kind regards
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Melbourne Graduate School of Education
234 Queensberry Street

Re: community of inquiry

By no means based on an exhaustive search, John, here are three passages
which spring to mind, though not using the very phrase "community of
inquiry." (1) "On the Doctrine of Chances..." : passim, including the
following -- "...three sentiments, namely, interest in an indefinite
community, recognition of the possibility of this interest being made
supreme, and hope in the unlimited continuance of the intellectual activity,
as indispensable requirements of logic." (2) "Some Consequences of Four
Incapacities": "Thus, the very origin of the conception of reality shows
that this conception essentially involves the notion of a COMMUNITY [caps in
original], without definite limits, and capable of a definite increase in
knowledge."  (3) "Critical Review of Berkeley's Idealism": "And the catholic
consent which constitutes the truth is by no means to be limited to men in
this earthly life or to the human race, but extends to the whole communion
of minds to which we belong...."  You may be well aware of these already, in
which case, my apologies. But these are the passages (in addition to what
you cite below) I have found frequently cited in connection with "the
community of inquiry."  Ben Udell is usually quite adept at scouring the
entire oeuvre and coming up with relevant passages, so I expect, if he has
the time, he may again come up with an exhaustive sourcing. 

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Hi Peirce-listers

Just wondering if anyone can help me.

"Community of Inquiry"

Re: community of inquiry

Thank you very much for sharing these Michael - they are very helpful.

One thought that has been with me lately is that such references do not
merely point to a "community of inquiry," but rather to a "community of
practice" for which inquiry is indispensible, whether this community is
limited to a particular community or expanded to a generalized community
(issue of truth). 

I suppose I am raising as a question Peirce's meaning of the term
"community" as this connects with inquiry and practice - ?

Does anyone else perceive such an issue?

Kind regards

John Quay

On 1/11/11 11:55 PM, "Michael J. DeLaurentis" <michaeljad <at> comcast.net>
wrote:

> By no means based on an exhaustive search, John, here are three passages
> which spring to mind, though not using the very phrase "community of
> inquiry." (1) "On the Doctrine of Chances..." : passim, including the
> following -- "...three sentiments, namely, interest in an indefinite
> community, recognition of the possibility of this interest being made
> supreme, and hope in the unlimited continuance of the intellectual activity,
> as indispensable requirements of logic." (2) "Some Consequences of Four
> Incapacities": "Thus, the very origin of the conception of reality shows
> that this conception essentially involves the notion of a COMMUNITY [caps in
> original], without definite limits, and capable of a definite increase in
> knowledge."  (3) "Critical Review of Berkeley's Idealism": "And the catholic
> consent which constitutes the truth is by no means to be limited to men in
> this earthly life or to the human race, but extends to the whole communion
> of minds to which we belong...."  You may be well aware of these already, in
> which case, my apologies. But these are the passages (in addition to what
> you cite below) I have found frequently cited in connection with "the
> community of inquiry."  Ben Udell is usually quite adept at scouring the
> entire oeuvre and coming up with relevant passages, so I expect, if he has
> the time, he may again come up with an exhaustive sourcing.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> Hi Peirce-listers
> 
> Just wondering if anyone can help me.
> 
> The phrase "community of inquiry" is often attributed to Peirce and yet I
> cannot find any instance of his actually using this phrase. Sources of this
> attribution can be drawn to Matthew Lipman (amongst others), associated with
> his work in Philosophy for Children
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Lipman)
> 
> Peirce definitely speaks often of the importance of community and of
> inquiry, but does not tend to use these words in close association.
> 
> I was wondering if anyone knew of a passage (or passages) in Peirce's work
> that would speak clearly to the association between community and inquiry?
> 
> I understand that Peirce draws a close connection between notions of
> community and scientific or pragmatic truth, for example when he states that
> ³the opinion which is fated to be ultimately agreed to by all who
> investigate, is what we mean by the truth²  (Peirce, 1878, p. 299, CP
> 5.407). But is this the main source of the phrase "community of inquiry"?
> 
> Any help appreciated.
> 
> Kind regards

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Re: community of inquiry

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"Community of Inquiry"

Re: "Community of Inquiry": maybe incorporated in Royce?

Re: "Community of Inquiry": maybe incorporated in Royce?

Brief review, but possibly of interest:

http://www.deakin.edu.au/dro/eserv/DU:30003655/jacobs-modelsofscientific-2006.pdf

"Models of scientific community: Charles Sanders Peirce to Thomas Kuhn"

Quoting John Welch <john-w-welch <at> NYC.RR.COM>:

> Maybe we should look in Royce, in what he wrote after listening  
> carefully to Peirce. Problems of Christianity and, maybe, in the  
> exchange with Dewey…in the complete Dewey, a nasty misunderstanding  
> from a philosophy congress, around 1912 or ’13. Royce’s reply is a  
> footnote to Dewey’s attack.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> John W.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: C S Peirce discussion list  
> [mailto:PEIRCE-L <at> LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU] On Behalf Of Aaron Massecar
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 7:56 PM
> To: PEIRCE-L <at> LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
> Subject: [peirce-l] "Community of Inquiry"
>
>
>
>
> Hi Maughn, John, List,
>
>
> I tried to send this earlier today, but it didn't go through for  
> some reason. I am trying it again...
>
>
>
> After a search through the collected papers and the Chronological  
> Writings (I have electronic versions of both), I could not find  
> those three words put together. That said, I did find a lot of  
> quotes that, without stretching too much, would get you close to a  
> "community of inquiry" or a "community of inquirers." In general,  
> you can find the notion of a community the Some Consequences of Four  
> Incapacities (1868) and Grounds of Validity of the Laws of Logic:  
> Further Consequences of Four Incapacities (1869). I am sure that  
> there are more out there, but here some that I found.
>
>
>
> In general, you could say that philosophers are inquirers and thus a  
> community of philosophers is a community of inquirers, which might  
> give you what you are looking for, but this could run into problems  
> depending on your understanding of philosophers. I understand Peirce  
> to be saying that philosophers are inquirers in a broad sense of  
> inquiry. Once you tie this into his conception of scientific inquiry  
> as a way of fixing belief, then you get a sufficiently broad notion  
> of inquiry that would apply to both science and philosophy (as if  
> there was a separation between the two).
>
>
>
> Please let me know if I missed anything
>
>
> Aaron
>
>
> --
> Aaron Massecar, PhD
> Department of Philosophy
> University of Guelph
> Guelph, ON
> N1G 2W1
>
>
>
>
> Some Consequences of Four Incapacities
> P 27: Journal of
> Speculative Philosophy 2(1868): 140–57
>
>
> 2. The same formalism appears in the Cartesian criterion, which  
> amounts to this: "Whatever I am clearly convinced of, is true." If I  
> were really convinced, I should have done with reasoning, and should  
> require no test of certainty. But thus to make single individuals  
> absolute judges of truth is most pernicious. The result is that  
> metaphysicians will all agree that metaphysics has reached a pitch  
> of certainty far beyond that of the physical sciences;—only they can  
> agree upon nothing else. In sciences in which men come to agreement,  
> when a theory has been broached, it is considered to be on probation  
> until this agreement is reached. After it is reached, the question  
> of certainty becomes an idle one, because there is no one left who  
> doubts it. We individually cannot reasonably hope to attain the  
> ultimate philosophy which we pursue; we can only seek it, therefore,  
> for the community of philosophers. Hence, if disciplined and candid  
> minds carefully examine a theory and refuse to accept it, this ought  
> to create doubts in the mind of the author of the theory himself. (W  
> 2:213)
>
> The cognitions which thus reach us by this infinite seriess of  
> inductions and hypotheses (which though infinite a parte ante  
> logice, is yet as one continuous process not without a beginning in  
> time) are of two kinds, the true and the untrue, or cognitions whose  
> objects are real and those whose objects are unreal. And what do we  
> mean by the real? It is a conception which we must first have had  
> when we discovered that there was an unreal, an illusion; that is,  
> when we first corrected ourselves. Now the distinction for which  
> alone this fact logically called, was between an ens relative to  
> private inward determinations, to the negations belonging to  
> idiosyncrasy, and an ens such as would stand in the long run. The  
> real, then, is that which, sooner or later, information and  
> reasoning would finally result in, and which is therefore  
> independent of the vagaries of me and you. Thus, the very origin of  
> the conception of reality shows that this conception essentially  
> involves the notion of a COMMUNITY, without definite limits, and  
> capable of an indefinite increase of knowledge. And so those two  
> series of cognitions—the real and the unreal —consist of those  
> which, at a time sufficiently future, the community will always  
> continue to reaffirm; and of those which, under the same conditions,  
> will ever after be denied. (W 2:239)
>
> But scientific progress is to a large extent public and belongs to  
> the community of scientific men of the same department, its  
> conclusions are unanimous, its interpretations of nature are no  
> private interpretations, and so much must always be published to the  
> world as will suffice to enable the world to adopt the individual  
> investigator's conclusions (W 2:339)
>
> Finally, as what anything really is, is what it may finally come to  
> be known to be in the ideal state of complete information, so that  
> reality depends on the ultimate decision of the community; so  
> thought is what it is, only by virtue of its addressing a future  
> thought which is in its value as thought identical with it, though  
> more developed. In this way, the existence of thought now, depends  
> on what is to be hereafter; so that it has only a potential  
> existence, dependent on the future thought of the community.The  
> individual man, since his separate existence is manifested only by  
> ignorance and error, so far as he is anything apart from his  
> fellows, and from what he and they are to be, is only a negation.  
> This is man,
>
>
> proud man,
>
>
> Most ignorant of what he's most assured,
>
>
> His glassy essence. (W 2:241-242)
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: "Maughn Gregory" <gregorym <at> MAIL.MONTCLAIR.EDU>
> To: PEIRCE-L <at> LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 November, 2011 9:42:17 AM
> Subject: [peirce-l] "Community of Inquiry"
>
> Some years ago our library subscribed to the "Past Masters" service,  
> which allowed electronic searching through Peirce's entire Collected  
> Papers. I conducted a proximity search of the terms "community" and  
> "inquiry" within 1-10 words of each other, and found no matches.  I  
> concluded that the phrase "community of inquiry" does not occur in  
> Peirce's works.  I would be glad to have others dis/confirm this.
>
> Maughn Gregory
>
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Re: "Community of Inquiry": maybe incorporated in Royce?