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Nkansah Rexford | 21 May 2013 17:27
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Bank statement from WMHK? Letter of Invitation?

Hi, I'm from Ghana. I'm rexford. I'm sorry this comes off lengthy, but its something i've faced before so wanna bring it up.


Bank Statements
To enter many countries ( I don't know yet for Hong Kong), the embassy requires the bank statement of the inviting organization or the organization funding the scholarship awardee aside the awardee's personal bank statement.

The bank statement is basically required so the embassy knows that the organization taking you out of your base country is worthy of caring for you during the timespan of your stay in the new country of stay. Irrespective of how big or small the inviting organization is, the bank statement is really essential for the consulars

Last year, I that wasn't available for me from WMDC for 2012 Wikimania. 

I want to learn if WMHK has any arrangement for releasing banks statements - if not their global bank statement - at least with respect to the awardee, indicating specifics (eg, allocated funds for the person with respect to accommodation  food, transport, sightseeing(if any) etc)

Some countries are very critical about that (UK, US and other developed countries (I presume Hong Kong is similar) - Though they won't tell you directly that's why you were not accepted for Visa, in their eyes, it counts a lot.

Invitation Letter
I'm sure WMHK will send to the scholarship winners who wish for visa application assistance some letter(s). Seriously, such letters in certain parts of the globe, like my country, hardly counts. I will emphasize that, consulars in certain parts of Africa, including Ghana don't take letters seriously, after all, letters are today writable and signable by anyone anytime from anywhere. To that effect, such types of letters sometimes loose their weight and intent though they might be/or are legitimate. Its is very critical because of the number of fraudulent cases reported at such embassies.

I ask, is there no other authoritative means whereby the WMF or WMHK can directly correspond with the local embassy from where the awardee is coming from other than just a sheet of white paper with black ink? Their corresponding with the local embassy is NOT to decide for them as to allowing their invitee to come around, but rather, to re-emphasize the fact that its true the invitee is really invited by an organization for blah blah blah. 

I believe that will rather be a practical visa assistance, if one will wanna call it that.

Many organizations intercede for their invitees when they lose acquisition of a visa to travel. Their follow ups aren't meant to challenge with the local embassy, rather to impress on them and try to explain in clear and direct means what their inviting the person all has to do.

It happened to me last year, thus my concerns. I couldn't attend WMDC 2012

I wish to be enlightened more.

Thanks.

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Calvin W.F. Siu | 18 May 2013 21:43
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Hi Samuel,

Thanks for your support and hope to see you in August.

Best Regards,
Calvin W.F. Siu
Online System Coordinator, Wikimanin 2013 Hong Kong Organization Team


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Dear Wikimania team,

I really appreciated the simple, smooth registration and housing setup
- the smoothest process to date, imo.

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Lodewijk | 17 May 2013 09:40

Re: Wikimania, or other events done by a third party?

Hungary seems ideally situated to host a Conference for Eastern Europe in 2015? If you organize it properly, it could be pretty big. 


2013/5/17 Samuel Klein <meta.sj <at> gmail.com>
(regional events are usually not called 'wikimania' but something
else, however - like Wiki Conference India :)

On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> I recommend trying to sell them on organizing a regional event if they
> don't win the bid for a global one.   There have been many successful
> regional 'manias, and after London 2014 there are some rotation
> reasons why it would not be an ideal year for a bid in Europe.
>
> SJ
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> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
> <nemowiki <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> Balázs Viczián, 14/05/2013 23:30:
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>>> 1) What if a third party applies to create an event? [...]
>>>
>>>
>>> 1/b) What if their bid is the best overall? Would they be allowed to
>>> execute it (a.k.a. being announced winners)? [...]
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>> In practice this has already happened, so it doesn't seem particularly
>> strange.
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Samuel Klein | 17 May 2013 07:21
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Thanks for a very smooth registration!

Dear Wikimania team,

I really appreciated the simple, smooth registration and housing setup
- the smoothest process to date, imo.

SJ

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Federico Leva (Nemo | 14 May 2013 23:59
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Re: Wikimania, or other events done by a third party?

Balázs Viczián, 14/05/2013 23:30:
> 1) What if a third party applies to create an event? [...]
>
> 1/b) What if their bid is the best overall? Would they be allowed to
> execute it (a.k.a. being announced winners)? [...]

In practice this has already happened, so it doesn't seem particularly 
strange.

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Balázs Viczián | 14 May 2013 23:30
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Wikimania, or other events done by a third party?

Hello everyone,

Wikimedia Hungary has recieved an interesting "sales pitch" today if we can call a two liner that. 

One of the largest Hungarian travelling agency's department (or subsidiary?) for conference tourism have expressed interest in organizing a Wikimania in Budapest, Hungary in 2015 in cooperation with WMHU. (My understanding is that WMHU would be a content advisor or similar in it) They've expressed interest in individual workshops as well (of course).

They've emailed us the bidding page for Wikimania 2015 [1] and the blog entry about the Program Evaluation Workshop that will be held in June in Budapest [2] (I guess) to underline their interest (and inadvertently highlight they're actively monitioring these events)

I believe you already have the questions in your mind about this; here are my ones: 

1) What if a third party applies to create an event? (like a workshop or Wikimania)

It is not prohibited for a for profit company to create a bid, nor they have the necessity to consult or cooperate with any of the chapters (though it is almost certain that they'll get some wikip/medians to help with the content). There are many workshops and meetups where Wikipedia is being discussed or being the topic without having any wikim/pedians speaking or attending, but something like a workshop, or Wikimania would be an "internal event" (even if maximum possible outreach is the ultimate goal in the latter)

1/b) What if their bid is the best overall? Would they be allowed to execute it (a.k.a. being announced winners)?

note these bids would not be coming from the local communities as they are coming now, but from outside.

1/c) What if such a bid comes from a country where is no chapter formed yet (or a non active or too small /or etc./ exists)?

Given the fact that Wikimania is so far the best local outreach tool of the movement, creating one in a country with small, or struggling (for whatever reasons) communities/chapters could result in a huge boost of that community/chapter. (it would be nice to know btw the aftereffects of the previous Wikimanias on the organizing chapters if it was ever measured)

2) Could it be an option for future bidders to outsource some or (almost) all parts of the organization/catering/other tasks to a third party (outside of the movement) keeping only the content management to themselves ?

The (future?) Wikimania Committee is in broader terms an officially not registered - internal - project company to help creating future Wikimanias in general.


Feel free to add your questions, while answering mines and others' :)

Cheers, 
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Manuel Schneider | 5 May 2013 11:05
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Re: Creating a Wikimania Committee

Am 05.05.2013 10:52, schrieb WereSpielChequers:
> I like this, though program evaluation needs to allow for the
> possibility that the local bid team might want to organise a national
> language track.

totally agree!

> What I think we should be trying to do is reduce the competing bid
> elements of Wikimania and building on the cooperative elements. It would
> be hard to think of any other aspect of the movement where we have rival
> teams competing against each other and all but the winning teams efforts
> end on the discard pile.

Yes!
1) the different teams and committees which are nod defined as "local"
here will do their work continously. There will be change in persons but
there won't be a completely new team each year for each Wikimania. I
expect the change to be more organic.
This means that many aspects of Wikimania are then away from the local
team. Not completely taken away, of course we aim for cooperation, but
they don't have to worry about these things.
That should also making bidding easier:
* you don't have to have such a big team and prove that they are all
active and experts
* you don't have to have a complete technical concept for Wifi etc.
because the tech team will bring it in
* you don't have to worry so much about sponsoring because you will get
professional support from WMF (you will still have to look for some
local sponsors but the global ones will be arranged with the WMF)
* you don't have to worry about VISA coordination, invitation letters
etc. because there is a team that will handle it

2) I already wrote that a few weeks ago: We should provide a bidding
template on Meta.
I am not interested in the touristic highlights of the host city, nor
the food specialties etc. (I am, of course, but I don't want to read it
in the bid).
The bids should contain basic facts:
* a venue
* accommodation
* programmatic ideas (national language track, keynote speakers,
outreach, events around Wikimania...)
* a basic outline of the infrastructure (where is the next international
airport, how is local transport going to happen...)

This should make bidding much easier. Maybe we even want to make it a
requirement that the local team should have organised a local / regional
event first? It would give them experience and open doors for venues and
accommodation. In my idea the support teams for Wikimania can also be
asked to help with local conferences where needed (if capacity allows).

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phoebe ayers | 3 May 2013 16:49
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what are your favorite wikimania proposals?

Submissions for Wikimania are now closed, and there are lots and lots of good ones:
http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Submissions

Attendees are encouraged to go through and indicate what sessions are of interest to them, to provide feedback to the program committee. Please do so ASAP as the committee is now in the process of rating and sorting submissions!

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Oarabile Mudongo | 2 May 2013 11:44
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Congratulations to the London team for being selected to host Wikimania 2014,looking forward to attend the event.


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Hosting a Wikimania must not be an easy challange for any chapter. Dealing
with a limited budget for such a global event is quite hard. So, we wish
the best for London in the organization for 2014 and we also thank to
Tanzania for trying to take the movement core to Arusha.

In the same way, we wish the best success to HK this year.

On behalf of WMVE, be great!!

Regards,

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El 01/05/2013 13:50, "Katie Chan" <katie.chan <at> wikimedia.org.uk> escribió:

> Congratulations to everyone who's been involved with the London bid.
>
> Looking forward to seeing many of you in London next year!
>
>
> On 1 May 2013 18:10, James Forrester <jdforrester <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Wikimedians,
>>
>> On behalf of the Wikimania 2014 selection Jury, after review and
>> evaluation of the two final bids, we have awarded the conference to
>> London. Congratulations to the London team, and to the Arusha team who
>> also put forward a solid effort.
>>
>> We were concerned this year to see that both bidding teams put forward
>> proposals which were costly and complicated, in contrast to the
>> Wikimania tradition. The Jury briefly considered re-opening the bid
>> for other teams, and asked both bids to present a simpler core budget
>> and lower-cost options for attendees.
>>
>> The London team took our comments to heart and decreased their core
>> budget to 20% of their initial proposal, and have committed to finding
>> ways to reduce the cost for community attendees.
>>
>> We encourage future bidding teams to not give up their dreams, to keep
>> aiming for the stars, but at the same time, to not forget the spirit
>> of Wikimedia: a volunteer movement that makes creative use of limited
>> resources. We look forward to the proposed Wikimania Committee setting
>> out clearer guidelines on these principles.
>>
>> The process to bid for hosting Wikimania requires a substantial time
>> investment, and we thank both candidate teams for their submissions
>> and hard work.
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> James Forrester
>> Moderator, Wikimania 2014 Jury
>> For the Wikimania 2014 Jury
>> --
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Congratulations to the London Team. Really look Forward to it.


Let’s start an editathon next year and improve the London articles on all Wikivoyage language versions.


Cheers

Fussi




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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Mai 2013 20:39
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Would love to attend my first Wikimania in London ;)



Congratulations London team :)


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Ivan Martínez <galaver <at> gmail.com> wrote:


It will be a wonderful Wikimania in London!
Congratulations to the team.




2013/5/1 Katie Chan <katie.chan <at> wikimedia.org.uk>




Congratulations to everyone who's been involved with the London bid.

Looking forward to seeing many of you in London next year!






On 1 May 2013 18:10, James Forrester <jdforrester <at> gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Wikimedians,

On behalf of the Wikimania 2014 selection Jury, after review and
evaluation of the two final bids, we have awarded the conference to
London. Congratulations to the London team, and to the Arusha team who
also put forward a solid effort.

We were concerned this year to see that both bidding teams put forward
proposals which were costly and complicated, in contrast to the
Wikimania tradition. The Jury briefly considered re-opening the bid
for other teams, and asked both bids to present a simpler core budget
and lower-cost options for attendees.

The London team took our comments to heart and decreased their core
budget to 20% of their initial proposal, and have committed to finding
ways to reduce the cost for community attendees.

We encourage future bidding teams to not give up their dreams, to keep
aiming for the stars, but at the same time, to not forget the spirit
of Wikimedia: a volunteer movement that makes creative use of limited
resources. We look forward to the proposed Wikimania Committee setting
out clearer guidelines on these principles.

The process to bid for hosting Wikimania requires a substantial time
investment, and we thank both candidate teams for their submissions
and hard work.

Yours,

James Forrester
Moderator, Wikimania 2014 Jury
For the Wikimania 2014 Jury
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Patricio Lorente | 1 May 2013 22:22
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Selection of winning bid for Wikimania 2014: London

Congratulations, London! See you there!

                               Patricio

2013/5/1 Dhaval S. Vyas <dsvyas <at> gmail.com>:
> Congratulations UK! So happy with the news, after all wikimania is coming at
> our doorstep...
>
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Katie Chan <katie.chan <at> wikimedia.org.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>> Congratulations to everyone who's been involved with the London bid.
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing many of you in London next year!
>>
>>
>> On 1 May 2013 18:10, James Forrester <jdforrester <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Wikimedians,
>>>
>>> On behalf of the Wikimania 2014 selection Jury, after review and
>>> evaluation of the two final bids, we have awarded the conference to
>>> London. Congratulations to the London team, and to the Arusha team who
>>> also put forward a solid effort.
>>>
>>> We were concerned this year to see that both bidding teams put forward
>>> proposals which were costly and complicated, in contrast to the
>>> Wikimania tradition. The Jury briefly considered re-opening the bid
>>> for other teams, and asked both bids to present a simpler core budget
>>> and lower-cost options for attendees.
>>>
>>> The London team took our comments to heart and decreased their core
>>> budget to 20% of their initial proposal, and have committed to finding
>>> ways to reduce the cost for community attendees.
>>>
>>> We encourage future bidding teams to not give up their dreams, to keep
>>> aiming for the stars, but at the same time, to not forget the spirit
>>> of Wikimedia: a volunteer movement that makes creative use of limited
>>> resources. We look forward to the proposed Wikimania Committee setting
>>> out clearer guidelines on these principles.
>>>
>>> The process to bid for hosting Wikimania requires a substantial time
>>> investment, and we thank both candidate teams for their submissions
>>> and hard work.
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>>
>>> James Forrester
>>> Moderator, Wikimania 2014 Jury
>>> For the Wikimania 2014 Jury
>>> --
>>> James D. Forrester
>>> jdforrester <at> gmail.com
>>> [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] (speaking purely in a personal
>>> capacity)
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