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Siebrand Mazeland | 2 Jan 2010 20:06
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An update on localisation in MediaWiki (2009)

On 31 December 2007 and 1 January 2008 I sent an e-mail to which this is a 
follow up[1,2].

First things first, because not everyone reads e-mails completely:
* MediaWiki localisation (that is the translation of English source messages 
to other languages) depends on you! If you speak a language other than 
English, care about your language in MediaWiki and Wikimedia and like 
translating, go to http://translatewiki.net, register a user and start 
contributing translations for MediaWiki and MediaWiki extensions. When your 
localisation is complete, keep coming back regularly to re-complete it and do 
quality control. Thank you in advance for all your contributions and effort.
* The i18n and L10n area of MediaWiki requires continuous efforts. If this 
area of FOSS has your interest: we need your help. Please offer your 
development skills to further MediaWiki's i18n, L10n and translation 
capabilities[3,4].

All statistics are based on MediaWiki 1.16 alpha, SVN version r60527 (31 
December 2009). Comparisons are to MediaWiki 1.14 alpha, SVN version r45277
(1 January 2009).

See http://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki_2009 for a wiki version of this 
message.

==Introduction==
* Localisation or L10n - the process of adapting the software to be as 
familiar as possible to a specific locale (topic of this message)
* Internationalisation or i18n - the process of ensuring that an application 
is capable of adapting to local requirements (out of scope of this message)

MediaWiki has a user interface definition for 362 languages (up from 348). Of
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Sergey Chernyshev | 3 Jan 2010 21:41
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jQuery and extensions

I remember it was mentioned that jQuery is going to be bundled with
MediaWiki soon (1.16?).

I wonder what would be the best approach for extensions that use jQuery and
package it up within itself to use global jQuery and do that in backwards
compatible way (e.g. to make sure that prior versions of MediaWiki don't get
broken).

Is there a good How-To for developers to rewrite their extensions?

Thank you,

        Sergey

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http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/
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Siebrand Mazeland | 3 Jan 2010 22:02
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Re: jQuery and extensions

Just a little roadmap info: mwEmbed[1], contaning jQuery, will not be part of 
MediaWiki 1.16. It will be added in a later version. Tim Starling pulled it 
from trunk a few weeks ago and Michael Dale has continued working on it in a 
branch.

I expect it will be added again after the branching/tagging of 1.16, and be 
part of 1.17 after a thorough shake down during the 1.17 alpha period.

Siebrand

[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MwEmbed

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:wikitech-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sergey Chernyshev
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 9:42 PM
To: Wikimedia developers
Subject: [Wikitech-l] jQuery and extensions

I remember it was mentioned that jQuery is going to be bundled with
MediaWiki soon (1.16?).

I wonder what would be the best approach for extensions that use jQuery and
package it up within itself to use global jQuery and do that in backwards
compatible way (e.g. to make sure that prior versions of MediaWiki don't get
broken).

Is there a good How-To for developers to rewrite their extensions?
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Sergey Chernyshev | 3 Jan 2010 23:38
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Re: jQuery and extensions

Thanks, Siebrand. It gives us a bit more time to write such documentation.

        Sergey

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Siebrand Mazeland <s.mazeland <at> xs4all.nl>wrote:

> Just a little roadmap info: mwEmbed[1], contaning jQuery, will not be part
> of
> MediaWiki 1.16. It will be added in a later version. Tim Starling pulled it
> from trunk a few weeks ago and Michael Dale has continued working on it in
> a
> branch.
>
> I expect it will be added again after the branching/tagging of 1.16, and be
> part of 1.17 after a thorough shake down during the 1.17 alpha period.
>
> Siebrand
>
> [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MwEmbed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wikitech-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:wikitech-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sergey
> Chernyshev
> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 9:42 PM
> To: Wikimedia developers
> Subject: [Wikitech-l] jQuery and extensions
>
> I remember it was mentioned that jQuery is going to be bundled with
> MediaWiki soon (1.16?).
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reporter | 4 Jan 2010 04:00
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Bugzilla Weekly Report

MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for December 28, 2009 - January 04, 2010

Status changes this week

Bugs NEW               :  283                                 
Bugs ASSIGNED          :  18                                  
Bugs REOPENED          :  39                                  
Bugs RESOLVED          :  138                                 

Total bugs still open: 4145                                

Resolutions for the week:

Bugs marked FIXED      :  66                                  
Bugs marked REMIND     :  0                                   
Bugs marked INVALID    :  13                                  
Bugs marked DUPLICATE  :  18                                  
Bugs marked WONTFIX    :  24                                  
Bugs marked WORKSFORME :  10                                  
Bugs marked LATER      :  8                                   
Bugs marked MOVED      :  0                                   

Specific Product/Component Resolutions & User Metrics 

New Bugs Per Component

Video player                        4                                   
Site requests                       4                                   
Images and files                    3                                   
Bugzilla                            3
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Siebrand Mazeland | 4 Jan 2010 07:51
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Re: Bugzilla Weekly Report

I've been trying to understand this report for a while, especially the section 
"New Bugs Per Product" compared to "Bugs NEW".

This week we apparently had 283 NEW bugs, and 34 bugs reported on the top 5 
products.

Given that we only have 13 products defined in bugzilla, of which 10 are 
active for bug submits, I fear something is wrong in the report.

Can someone please clarify?

Siebrand

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Subject: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for December 28, 2009 - January 04, 2010

Status changes this week

Bugs NEW               :  283
Bugs ASSIGNED          :  18
Bugs REOPENED          :  39
Bugs RESOLVED          :  138
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Max Semenik | 4 Jan 2010 08:06
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Re: jQuery and extensions

On 04.01.2010, 0:02 Siebrand wrote:

> Just a little roadmap info: mwEmbed[1], contaning jQuery, will not be part of
> MediaWiki 1.16. It will be added in a later version. Tim Starling pulled it
> from trunk a few weeks ago and Michael Dale has continued working on it in a
> branch.

> I expect it will be added again after the branching/tagging of 1.16, and be
> part of 1.17 after a thorough shake down during the 1.17 alpha period.

> Siebrand

Nevertheless, there is js2/js2stopgap.js that looks like jQuery or a
piece of it. It it safe to use it?

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Siebrand Mazeland | 4 Jan 2010 10:28
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Re: jQuery and extensions

Max, as far as I know it was kept (see r59450 [1]) because it was already 
being used the Usability Initiative and LiquidThreads, that Wikimedia has in 
active deployment.

Looks like that piece is not going anywhere and there are good reasons to 
keep/consider it stable.

Siebrand

[1] 
http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACode%2FMediaWiki%2Fpath&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fphase3%2Fjs2

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Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] jQuery and extensions

On 04.01.2010, 0:02 Siebrand wrote:

> Just a little roadmap info: mwEmbed[1], contaning jQuery, will not be part 
> of
> MediaWiki 1.16. It will be added in a later version. Tim Starling pulled it
> from trunk a few weeks ago and Michael Dale has continued working on it in a
> branch.

> I expect it will be added again after the branching/tagging of 1.16, and be
> part of 1.17 after a thorough shake down during the 1.17 alpha period.
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Bryan Tong Minh | 4 Jan 2010 12:18
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Re: jQuery and extensions

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Max Semenik <maxsem.wiki <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> On 04.01.2010, 0:02 Siebrand wrote:
>
>> Just a little roadmap info: mwEmbed[1], contaning jQuery, will not be part of
>> MediaWiki 1.16. It will be added in a later version. Tim Starling pulled it
>> from trunk a few weeks ago and Michael Dale has continued working on it in a
>> branch.
>
>> I expect it will be added again after the branching/tagging of 1.16, and be
>> part of 1.17 after a thorough shake down during the 1.17 alpha period.
>
>> Siebrand
>
> Nevertheless, there is js2/js2stopgap.js that looks like jQuery or a
> piece of it. It it safe to use it?
>
Can't we just add jQuery to 1.16 even though no core scripts use it
yet? Is there a reason not to?
Would it need a security review before it is included?

Bryan
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Chad | 4 Jan 2010 12:24
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Re: jQuery and extensions

I'd suggest going ahead and bundling it. It's easy to
do that and it promotes people using it instead of
sajax. I'd love to see the old ajax stuff removed in favor
of using jQuery, but that can't happen til jQuery is
bundled in a semi-stable way.

-Chad

On Jan 4, 2010 6:19 AM, "Bryan Tong Minh" <bryan.tongminh <at> gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Max Semenik <maxsem.wiki <at> gmail.com> wrote: >
On 04.01.2010, 0:02 Sie...
Can't we just add jQuery to 1.16 even though no core scripts use it
yet? Is there a reason not to?
Would it need a security review before it is included?

Bryan

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