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Aryeh Gregor | 1 Mar 2009 01:37
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http://en.wikipedia.org/ --> 301 Moved Permanently)

On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Daniel Friesen <dan_the_man <at> telus.net> wrote:
> It also completely screws up the redirected from line if you CTRL+Click
> on a number of redirects. ie: When trying to mass delete redirects
> tagged for deletion.

How so?  Does the "redirected from" notice not appear at all, or does
the wrong one appear?  I can imagine that there would be some cases
that would get messed up no matter what (e.g., loading the same page
twice from two different redirects at once), but I should think most
cases could be made to work properly.
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Tim Starling | 1 Mar 2009 02:34
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Re: no less than [[{{#Special:Specialpages}}|{{ns:special}}:{{int:specialpages}}]] needed

jidanni <at> jidanni.org wrote:
> I can't believe in 1.14 that you have now removed the ability for
> zh-tw users to make links to e.g., Special Pages using their zh-tw
> characters.
> 

I can most certainly believe it. It's not like the messages files are
reviewed before they're released.

Localised special page names were added to zh-hans shortly before the
branch point:

<http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_14/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesZh_hans.php?view=diff&r1=45302&r2=45303>

No similar list was added for zh-hant or zh-tw, so the simplified list
is used for all of them. There was no localised $specialPageAliases
for zh-* in 1.13.0 so it seems likely that the English names were used
at that time.

It would be helpful if you could provide a translation for these
special page names into Traditional Chinese. This translation can be
included in 1.14.1.

-- Tim Starling
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Lei Jiang | 1 Mar 2009 16:09

How to put Googla Ad at the right side of the article?

How to put Google Ad at the right side of the article? Besides, I only want
to show Ad when the user is read the article, but don't want the ad to
appear in the discussion, edit, and history page.

Thanks!

Lei Jiang

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Lei Jiang | 1 Mar 2009 16:49

Re: How to calculate word count in an article according to contributors?

Thank you Robert,

In fact what I want is a mechanism to evaluate the contribution of every
author. What I think now is to compute the word count of every author, then
the system could give a score to them.

Is there a better way to evaluate the contribution of the authors?

Thanks!

Lei Jiang

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On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Lei Jiang <code <at> 263.net> wrote:
> Is there a way to calculate word count in an article according to
> contributors?
>
> For example: an article is written by three authors A, B, C. The total
word
> count of this article is 100 words. A write 60 word, B write 30 word, C
> write 10 words. After the article is stable and no more editing, is there
> any method that could list the word count for each author automatically?
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ChrisiPK | 1 Mar 2009 22:15
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Autopromotion and revoking

Hi everyone,

there is a discussion going on on Commons about a rollback policy. This 
involves deciding how users should be given this permission. We have 
been discussing autopromotion, but Andrew told us on IRC that he thinks 
it's not possible to revoke autopromoted rights. Revoking rollback 
permission is very important to take care of 
edit-warring/mass-rollbacking troublemakers, so we don't want to 
surrender this possibility. Can anyone comment on this, is it 
effectively impossible to revoke automatically given rights?

Thanks and best regards,

ChrisiPK
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Aryeh Gregor | 1 Mar 2009 22:26
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Re: Autopromotion and revoking

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:15 PM, ChrisiPK <chrisipk <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> there is a discussion going on on Commons about a rollback policy. This
> involves deciding how users should be given this permission. We have
> been discussing autopromotion, but Andrew told us on IRC that he thinks
> it's not possible to revoke autopromoted rights. Revoking rollback
> permission is very important to take care of
> edit-warring/mass-rollbacking troublemakers, so we don't want to
> surrender this possibility. Can anyone comment on this, is it
> effectively impossible to revoke automatically given rights?

It would be possible, although kind of hackish.  The procedure would
be to create a "norollback" group that can be manually granted and
revoked, then make the autopromote criteria for rollback require that
the user not be in the "norollback" group.  Possibly a nicer way of
doing this would be good, but it should be good enough for now.
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Techman224 | 2 Mar 2009 00:03
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Re: Autopromotion and revoking


On 1-Mar-09, at 3:26 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:15 PM, ChrisiPK <chrisipk <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> there is a discussion going on on Commons about a rollback policy.  
>> This
>> involves deciding how users should be given this permission. We have
>> been discussing autopromotion, but Andrew told us on IRC that he  
>> thinks
>> it's not possible to revoke autopromoted rights. Revoking rollback
>> permission is very important to take care of
>> edit-warring/mass-rollbacking troublemakers, so we don't want to
>> surrender this possibility. Can anyone comment on this, is it
>> effectively impossible to revoke automatically given rights?
>
> It would be possible, although kind of hackish.  The procedure would
> be to create a "norollback" group that can be manually granted and
> revoked, then make the autopromote criteria for rollback require that
> the user not be in the "norollback" group.  Possibly a nicer way of
> doing this would be good, but it should be good enough for now.
>
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> Wikitech-l <at> lists.wikimedia.org
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Or it can be done like FlaggedRevs did with the Editor group.

Techman224
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Thomas Dalton | 2 Mar 2009 00:17
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Re: Autopromotion and revoking

2009/3/1 Techman224 <techman224 <at> yahoo.ca>:
> Or it can be done like FlaggedRevs did with the Editor group.

Which was? I didn't thing FlaggedRevs had anything to do with
promotions, it just has a few permissions and you use the standard
methods of granting them.
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Andrew Garrett | 2 Mar 2009 00:21
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Re: Autopromotion and revoking

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Which was? I didn't thing FlaggedRevs had anything to do with
> promotions, it just has a few permissions and you use the standard
> methods of granting them.

FlaggedRevs, instead of improving the existing autopromote
architecture, decided to create its own with the ability to revoke
autopromoted groups. It would have been nice if, instead of
implementing this in an extension which had nothing to do with
autopromotion, the improvements in question were made to core.

--

-- 
Andrew Garrett
Sent from: Sydney New South Wales Australia.
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ChrisiPK | 2 Mar 2009 00:22
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Re: Autopromotion and revoking


Thomas Dalton schrieb:
> 2009/3/1 Techman224 <techman224 <at> yahoo.ca>:
>> Or it can be done like FlaggedRevs did with the Editor group.
> 
> Which was? I didn't thing FlaggedRevs had anything to do with
> promotions, it just has a few permissions and you use the standard
> methods of granting them.

Not quite. Have a look at 
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs and you will see, 
that there is $wgFlaggedRevsAutopromote to control when a user is 
autopromoted. I initially thought, that FlaggedRevs would use the 
standard way for autopromotion, which is why I took for granted that 
this is just what autopromotion works like. Turns out it is not.

Regards,

ChrisiPK
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