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Karl Eichwalder | 1 May 2004 01:40
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Re: The bug is out there...

Brion Vibber <brion@...> writes:

>> Just out of curiosity, if I have two open edit
>> sessions of the same page, and press submit on both in
>> very short succession, what happens?
>
> They'll both save, unless something Terrible happens.

Using Mozilla on GNU/Linux you can "paste" text into the scroll bar
using the middle mouse button: mark the whole text (Alt-A), click into
the edit window and than paste into the scroll bar: the text is
available twice.

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Brion Vibber | 1 May 2004 03:50
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Re: Hardware stuff

On Apr 30, 2004, at 14:33, Brion Vibber wrote:
> There've been some changes to the hardware: new disks on zwinger and 
> suda. If someone's got details, and any knowledge of browne's 
> situation, an announcement would be welcome.
>
> Currently we're having lots of trouble with the squids.

The current situation is:
coronelli serving .236 (en, test, etc)
curly serving .235 (others)

We tried upgrading browne to the latest Red Hat/Rawhide kernel packages 
(2.6.5-1.344) to see if that solved the crash problems. It doesn't seem 
to have, as it's crashed again. Running memtest86 for a while 
(preferably over the weekend at least) might be a good thing to do.

Kernel info and crash log from prior to the upgrade: 
http://wikimedia.org/crash.log

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Evan Prodromou | 1 May 2004 05:02
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Re: Re: user styles, rtl, raw text action

>>>>> "T" == Timwi  <timwi@...> writes:

    T> I don't understand why one would want to disable this? What
    T> harm does it do?

Do you want to know my reasons, or do you want to convince me not to
disable the feature?

Here's my reasons:

0) Protected pages are evil. Any feature that requires them deserves
   intense scrutiny.

1) Supporting custom-hacked CSS and Javascript is a chore I don't want
   as a site admin.

2) The whole idea encourages a very self-centered culture I don't want
   to support or cultivate. I'd rather contributors submitted ideas to
   improve one of a set of global style sheets that everyone can use,
   than waste community resources diddling with a personal stylesheet
   so the site looks just so, just for them.

~ESP

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Evan Prodromou | 1 May 2004 05:06
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update.php

So, I find update.php really useful as a kind of 'make install' for my
local test installation. Is there a way we could leave this
not-disabled?

~ESP

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Lars Aronsson | 1 May 2004 15:21
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Better searching

Since Wikipedia's contents is available under GFDL, it is OK to start
mirror websites to display the same contents, and many are doing so.

But does any mirror site provide a search function of their own that
is better than Google or Wikipedia's own?  Is any innovation taking
place in that area?

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Ivan Krstic | 1 May 2004 22:58

Re: Re: Graph drawing plugin

Last time I used graphviz, it didn't do any kind of anti-aliasing, so
the graphs quickly became ugly/illegible if you tried cramming too much
information in too small a space. Where there is enough space to render
things comfortably, graphviz does quite nicely. For instance, take a
look at:

http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/graphviz/examples/directed/fsm.gif
http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/graphviz/examples/directed/datastruct.gif
http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/graphviz/examples/directed/world.gif
http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/graphviz/examples/undirected/process.gif

I think my solution for bigger graphs at the time was to render them in
graphviz, and then resize using ImageMagick. A bicubic resize manages to
keep the graphs at least decent - nearest neighbor and bilinear make
things *really* ugly (lines will no longer be, er, lines).

Cheers,
Ivan

Brion Vibber wrote:
> I've never used it before, but the sample graphs on the above-linked 
> website are mostly illegible.
> 
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Ivan Krstic | 1 May 2004 22:59

Re: short domain name please.

Hunter,

to my knowledge, all 2- and 3- letter .{org|com|net} domain names are
taken. This is certainly the case with wp.org/com/net, and also with
wiki.com/net/org. If you really wanted to shorten things,
wikip.com/net/org are available.

Cheers,
Ivan

Hunter Peress wrote:
> can someone act quickly before an enterprising punk reads this ;-)
> 
> just like sourceforge.net has sf.net   we should have wp.org for wikipedia.org
> 
> 
> eg:  bittorrent.sourceforge.net ->  bittorrent.sf.net
> 
> i dream of :  mail.wp.org
>               it.wp.org    ,  ko.wp.org,  en.wp.org  de.wp.org ,  download.wp.org
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Martin Mewes | 2 May 2004 00:14
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Re: short domain name please.

Howdy,

Am Freitag, 30. April 2004 20:52 schrieb Hunter Peress:

> just like sourceforge.net has sf.net   we should have wp.org for
> wikipedia.org

Please point your browser to
http://www.mewes.tv/cgi-bin/whois.cgi
and test yourself, as

wp.com is taken by Yahoo!
wp.net is taken by NA Global Link LTD
wp.org is taken by Name-4-Sale, Div. of QBX INC

As alomost nearly all twi digit domain names will be taken at the moment.

btw ... wp.tv is free ;-) (1)

Martin

(1) For just as little as $1,000.00 / year

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Tomasz Sienicki
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3 x problem (Database download, Wiktionary,	Mailing List)



 1) sql dumps have been updated at download.wikimedia.org - however, 
    the dump of the Polish Wiktionary is no longer available. Why?
    We need these dumps to update our word indices, see
    http://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Indeks:Has%C5%82a_w_j%C4%99zyku_polskim
    http://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Indeks:Wg_j%C4%99zyk%C3%B3w

 2) Are there any plans to develop some sort of interwiki links for
    Wiktionaries? Apparently something is being done; yesterday
    [[pl:entry]] pointed to 'entry' on pl.wikipedia.org - today it
    points to 'entry' on pl.wiktionary.org. Not very useful, esp. since
    [[en:entry]] still points to -pedia, not -tonary.

 3) The PL mailing list wikipl-l seems to have broken down. People
    complain their messages never get delivered, the list is dead.

 It might be a wrong place to post these questions (well, requests
 actually ;-) In such case please direct me to the appropriate forum.

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Brion Vibber
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em & strong


For '' and ''' we produce <em> and <strong> tags rather than <i> and 
<b>. Is this right or wrong?

Arguments against are presented by one of our own Wikipedians, claiming 
it's an abuse of semantic markup: 
http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2004/05/02/b-and-i

About the only argument in favor is "that's what UseMod did, and Wiki 
before it".

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