emijrp | 1 Dec 16:23 2011
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Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising is for men

2011/12/1 Carol Moore <carolmooredc <at> verizon.net>
On 11/29/2011 5:19 PM, emijrp wrote:
>
>
> So, the first step would be to try and figure out if women are
> visiting the site and not editing or just not visiting at all, before
> saying nonsense about sexism and Wikipedia community.

Fundraising from women is an interesting topic. You may think comments
about sexism and the Wikipedia community are nonsense, but guess what.
Women who take a lot of sexist nonsense AT wikipedia sure aren't going
to donate TO wikipedia, are they?

Also, since women in general are busier with work AND family
responsibilities, so often the women who have the most time to edit are
unemployed, disabled, retired or otherwise on limited incomes.

[citation needed]

Furthermore, editing Wikipedia only requires 30 minutes a day/week. I'm sure all women waste more time watching TV. But watching TV is funnier for most the people.

In the other hand, looks like women in all ages have time to waste in Facebook http://www.kenburbary.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Image1_thumb3.png And gender balance is fifty-fifty.

Finally, if the reason for the low female editors proportion is time, how can Wikipedia solve that? Are we going to pay to female editors for their time?


I can
think of a few.  Besides a ten spot here and a ten spot there, we can't
give large amounts of money.
But there are women with big bucks out
there giving lots to women-friendly organizations left and right. We
must make Wikipedia women friendly to get their money.

You are wrong. To see donation banners and to donate only reading is required, not editing. Are you going to say that only poor women read Wikipedia?

By they way, making Wikipedia women friendly? What does that mean? Is that a new politically correct science?

Better, make Wikipedia friendly to disabled people, the great forgotten excluded people group. For example, blind people can't sign up because of Wikipedia captcha (there is no sound captcha https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4845). That is a real barrier which Wikimedia Foundation have to solve putting resources.
 
Where is the accessibility mailing list? Accessibility is a recommendation by W3C since 1997, and we are in the top ten websites, as WMF likes to boast.


Anyway, putting down one of the main concerns of this list as nonsense
is not helpful.

Sure. For your information, this mailing list is a insult to the real excluded people.
 

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Michael J. Lowrey | 1 Dec 17:08 2011
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Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising is for men

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:23 AM, emijrp <emijrp <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Sure. For your information, this mailing list is a insult to the real
> excluded people.

Why is this... individual on this mailing list, if they despise our
very reason for existing?

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Manuel Palomo Duarte | 2 Dec 10:11 2011
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Re: [Gendergap] [Foundation-l] Fundraising is for men

+1 


Sometimes (goodwilling), we try to give a voice to those that do have it, but don't want to use it. Instead of giving it to those who don't have it and thus, are excluded ...

[Sorry for my English]

2011/12/1 emijrp <emijrp <at> gmail.com>
2011/12/1 Carol Moore <carolmooredc <at> verizon.net>
On 11/29/2011 5:19 PM, emijrp wrote:
>
>
> So, the first step would be to try and figure out if women are
> visiting the site and not editing or just not visiting at all, before
> saying nonsense about sexism and Wikipedia community.

Fundraising from women is an interesting topic. You may think comments
about sexism and the Wikipedia community are nonsense, but guess what.
Women who take a lot of sexist nonsense AT wikipedia sure aren't going
to donate TO wikipedia, are they?

Also, since women in general are busier with work AND family
responsibilities, so often the women who have the most time to edit are
unemployed, disabled, retired or otherwise on limited incomes.

[citation needed]

Furthermore, editing Wikipedia only requires 30 minutes a day/week. I'm sure all women waste more time watching TV. But watching TV is funnier for most the people.

In the other hand, looks like women in all ages have time to waste in Facebook http://www.kenburbary.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Image1_thumb3.png And gender balance is fifty-fifty.

Finally, if the reason for the low female editors proportion is time, how can Wikipedia solve that? Are we going to pay to female editors for their time?


I can
think of a few.  Besides a ten spot here and a ten spot there, we can't
give large amounts of money.
But there are women with big bucks out
there giving lots to women-friendly organizations left and right. We
must make Wikipedia women friendly to get their money.

You are wrong. To see donation banners and to donate only reading is required, not editing. Are you going to say that only poor women read Wikipedia?

By they way, making Wikipedia women friendly? What does that mean? Is that a new politically correct science?

Better, make Wikipedia friendly to disabled people, the great forgotten excluded people group. For example, blind people can't sign up because of Wikipedia captcha (there is no sound captcha https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4845). That is a real barrier which Wikimedia Foundation have to solve putting resources.
 
Where is the accessibility mailing list? Accessibility is a recommendation by W3C since 1997, and we are in the top ten websites, as WMF likes to boast.


Anyway, putting down one of the main concerns of this list as nonsense
is not helpful.

Sure. For your information, this mailing list is a insult to the real excluded people.
 

Thanks.

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Dario Taraborelli | 6 Dec 01:03 2011
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Help us shape the future data/research infrastructure for Wikimedia

The Wikimedia Research Committee is launching a survey to understand:

1) what data the Wikimedia Foundation should collect, host and share (on top of the public datasets that we
already publish)
2)  the technical and computational requirements that would allow you to reuse these data to build cool
applications and run new research

Please give us your input and help us shape the future data/research infrastructure for Wikimedia.

http://bit.ly/WikimediaData

Best,
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Sumana Harihareswara | 11 Dec 20:54 2011
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accessibility in Wikimedia

On 12/02/2011 04:11 AM, wiki-research-l-request <at> lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 16:23:44 +0100
> From: emijrp <emijrp <at> gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Gendergap] [Foundation-l] Fundraising is
> for men
> To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
> <gendergap <at> lists.wikimedia.org>
> Cc: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> <foundation-l <at> lists.wikimedia.org>, Research into Wikimedia content and
> communities <wiki-research-l <at> lists.wikimedia.org>

2011/12/1 Carol Moore <carolmooredc <at> verizon.net>
>> > On 11/29/2011 5:19 PM, emijrp wrote:

(clipped)
> Better, make Wikipedia friendly to disabled people, the great forgotten
> excluded people group. For example, blind people can't sign up because of
> Wikipedia captcha (there is no sound captcha
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4845). That is a real
> barrier which Wikimedia Foundation have to solve putting resources.
> 
> Where is the accessibility mailing list? Accessibility is a recommendation
> by W3C since 1997, and we are in the top ten websites, as WMF likes to
> boast.

I disagree strongly with emijrp on much of this topic, which I will not
go into here because (a) it's offtopic for this list and (b) the
Wikimedia movement has already agreed that increasing inclusivity to
women in the Wikimedia projects is important.

emijrp, thank you for drawing my attention to bug 4845.  I added it to

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accessibility

I see there was an Wikimedia accessibility hackathon led by Katie
Filbert (User:Aude) in Washington, DC in late November.
http://www.wikimediadc.org/wiki/Accessibility_hackathon  At that event,
per http://www.wikimediadc.org/wiki/Accessibility_hackathon/Fixes ,
"Katie replaced an inaccessible captcha on the "create a new account"
page of the wikimediadc.org website, using a more accessible captcha
that features an audio recognition process."  I'll contact her to ask if
that's the same switch that needs to be made for Wikimedia sites, and
whether she could take care of that.

And of course if you think there should be an accessibility mailing
list, you should start one!

Sorry for being offtopic.

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mohamad mehdi | 13 Dec 13:09 2011
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very good

Click here to see the attached video
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Ziko van Dijk | 13 Dec 16:30 2011

Re: very good

Hello.
I would find it nicer that someone, who posts here, writes shortly in
his own words what the link is all about. :-) Maybe the subject is not
interesting for me, and then I wouldn't like to waste my time with the
video. So right now, I don't click on the link, sorry.
Ziko

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Mateus Nobre | 13 Dec 19:31 2011
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Re: very good

It's spam. Do not click there.


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> Hello.
> I would find it nicer that someone, who posts here, writes shortly in
> his own words what the link is all about. :-) Maybe the subject is not
> interesting for me, and then I wouldn't like to waste my time with the
> video. So right now, I don't click on the link, sorry.
> Ziko
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> 2011/12/13 mohamad mehdi <mohamad_mehdi <at> hotmail.com>:
> > Click here to see the attached video
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Jungi Kim | 16 Dec 07:19 2011
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2nd Call for Contributions: edited volume of Springer book series "The People's Web Meets NLP: Collaboratively Constructed Language Resources"

[Our apologies if you have received multiple copies of this announcement.]

CALL FOR CONTRIBUTIONS

Edited Volume "The People's Web Meets NLP: Collaboratively Constructed Language Resources" 

Springer book series: "Theory and Applications of Natural Language Processing", E. Hovy, M. 
Johnson and G. Hirst (eds.)  

http://www.ukp.tu-darmstadt.de/scientific-community/edited-book-the-peoples-web-meets-nlp 

===Description===

The application of collective intelligence in the domain of language yielded collaboratively 
constructed language resources (CCLR) that can be used in a variety of ways.  

The aim of this book is to capture the state-of-the-art in the emerging area of research on 
"Collaboratively constructed language resources." Thus, a point of reference on the topics of 
construction, mining, using and interconnecting collaboratively constructed language resources 
for natural language processing, knowledge discovery and other intelligent applications will be 
created. 

Given the appropriateness of the topics, preliminary versions of contributions may be submitted 
in parallel to the 3rd workshop of "The People's Web meets NLP: Collaboratively Constructed 
Semantic Resources and their Applications to NLP."
(http://www.ukp.tu-darmstadt.de/scientific-community/acl-2012-workshop) 

===Publication Schedule===

* January 8th, 2012 – deadline for abstract submission
 * January 13th, 2012 – notification of abstract acceptance
 * April 15th, 2012 – submission of book chapters
 * June 8th, 2012 – notification of chapter acceptance
 * August 31st, 2012 – final submission of book chapters
 * November - December 2012 – publication by Springer

===Editors===

Iryna Gurevych and Jungi Kim


Please refer to the book website for detailed information.

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emijrp | 18 Dec 21:40 2011
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List of papers: 2596.

Hi all;

I just want to share with you a list of 2596 papers about wikis I generated this afternoon scraping Google Scholar results.[1] To download, use: wget -t1 -c -i papers.txt. If you want to split the list before: split -l500 papers.txt papers-

I'm creating a wiki to compile all available bibliography about wikis, so, I need a ton of those.

Regards,
emijrp

[1] http://pastebin.com/6MzvR6Vi

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