Dario Taraborelli | 24 May 21:26
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WMF to endorse a petition to the White House mandate free access to publicly funded research

Hi everybody,

I wanted to give you the heads up that the Wikimedia Foundation is planning to endorse a petition to the White
House to mandate open access to taxpayer-funded research. The petition is in line with previous open
access declarations that we endorsed and is supported by a large number of organizations including
Creative Commons, the Public Library of Science and the Open Knowledge Foundation. The White House will
give a formal response if the petition hits 25K signatures within 30 days (by June 19).

We are aiming to publish a blog post tomorrow morning PT and we put together some FAQ explaining how the
decision was made and why we want to support this important initiative that is fully aligned with our
mission. We'll send an announcement shortly to various other community outlets.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Access2Research
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Access2Research

If you want to help please head off to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Access2Research

Best,
Dario
Ed H. Chi | 23 May 08:07
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Re: Wiki-research-l Digest, Vol 81, Issue 44


But the underlying hostility is a problem that bothers me a lot and I have
been trying to think of ways to bridge the gap.

My understanding has been that historically, edits to articles from academics with strong credentials are not treated any differently than edits from anyone else.  This has resulted in many academics spending loads of time editing an article only to be 'reverted' by a single click from a Recent Changes Patrol, or to be slapped on the wrist with "citation needed".  This has resulted in many misunderstandings, which often did not get a chance to be discussed in public, because academics often don't have time to go round and round with someone on Wikipedia talk page.

I believe the culture at Wikipedia has always been that knowledge from anyone is treated equally.  While I admire that principle, it doesn't quite jive with the academic credential culture, where opinion based on experience and authority actually counts for something.  Go to a faculty meeting, and you shall see a Full Professor's opinion being weighted more than an assistant professor just starting out on tenure clock.

There is in operation a Wikimedia Foundation  Education program that is small and
will not, in my opinion, scale up easily to the size needed.

Agreed.  It's a culture that you're trying to change.  Yes, an bridge program can help, but it won't 'solve' the fundamental cultural differences.

--Ed

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Kevin G Crowston | 23 May 01:33
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Re: Research into Wikimedia content and communities

Actually, I don't think the visibility of public reviews would be likely to result in higher quality
reviews. Blind review exists (at least in part) to protect the reviewers and enable them to provide an
honest opinion on a submission without having to worry about the retribution for a negative review (e.g.,
negative reviews on their work in return, not getting recommended for funding or promotion, etc.). Such
worries would be particularly problematic for junior faculty or students. I would expect signed reviews
to be much more anodyne. You might also imagine the reverse, that someone might submit a falsely positive
review hoping for some reward down the road. Blind reviewing does create some problems, but AFAIK it's
nearly universal in academic publishing. It would be easy to permit or re
 quire anonymous comments though. Or perhaps revealing the names only if the paper is accepted. 

Double blind review (meaning that the authors' names aren't known to the reviewers) would also be more
difficult in this system. The intent of double blind reviewing is to encourage reviewers to review the
paper and not the author. On the other hand, it's often pretty easy to guess who the author is even without
the name attached to the paper, which may be why double-blind reviews are not universal. 

It's also worth noting that the main problem with peer review is getting reviewers at all, since there's
little reward for reviewing and it takes a fair amount of effort to write a good review--note that a paper
might be 40 pages and a review several pages long (at least in my field--there's a lot of variation in
publication norms from field to field). One argument for reviewing is that you get to read papers earlier,
but if everyone can do that anyway, then there's not much incentive to spend the effort crafting a careful
review afterwards. It could be though that the volume of comments or the discussion among commenters
would compensate for less depth in any single review--it would be interesting to see how that balanced
out. Given the small size of research communities and the ratio of 
 readers to contributors on Wikipedia, I wouldn't expect a flood of comments on papers in most
subdisciplines though. 

On 22-May-2012, at 6:46 PM, FT2 <ft2.wiki <at> gmail.com> wrote:

>  3. A key change would be that reviewers' identities would be public.
>   Although this would remove the usual complete separation of author and
>   reviewer, it also means that the reviews, the relationships, and the
>   approach will be completely public and itself open to scrutiny for all
>   future time.   For those whose repuytation and career rest on clearly
>   ethical behavior in their academic work, this might be if anything at least
>   as powerful an incentive to review within community guidelines.  Future
>   emergence of any untoward behavior, or any strange attitudes or unexpected
>   review posts at review will be picked up on, and this total transparency
>   has the potential to be as effective an encouragement of highest standards
>   and deterrent of ethical breach as any formal separation.

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Joe Corneli | 22 May 21:45
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open letter to researchers

I thought this might be of interest particularly in light of the
recent conversations
here about academics vs wikipedians. - Joe

Abstract

Since access to research funding is difficult, particularly for young
researchers, we consider a change in approach: "We are the funding
opportunity!" I'll develop this idea further in the comments that
follow.  This is an "open letter" to circulate to research mailing
lists which I hope will bring in new interest in the Free Technology
Guild.

Keywords: research funding, postgraduate training

A critique of the way research is funded

Considering the historical technologies for doing science, it makes
sense that public funding for research is administered via a
competitive, hierarchical model. Science is too big for everyone to
get together in one room and discuss.  However, contemporary
communication technologies and open practices seem to promise
something different: a sustained public conversation about research.
The new way of doing things would "redeem" the intellectual capital
currently lost in rejected research proposals, and would provide
postgraduate and postdoctoral researchers with additional learning
opportunities through a system of peer support.

JISC recently ran an experiment moving in this direction (the "JISC
Elevator"), but the actual incentive structure ended up being similar
to other grant funding schemes, with 6 of 26 proposals funded
(http://www.jisc.ac.uk/blog/crowd/). It strikes me that if we saw the
same numbers in a classroom setting (6 pass, 20 fail), we would find
that pretty appalling. Of course, people have the opportunity to
re-apply with changes in response to another call, but the overheads
in that approach are quite high. What if instead of a winners-take-all
competitive model, we took a more collaborative and learning-oriented
approach to funding research, with "applicants" working together, in
consultation with funders -- until their ideas were ready? In the end,
it's not so much about increasing the acceptance rate, but increasing
the throughput of good ideas! Open peer review couldn't "save" the
most flawed proposals; nevertheless, it could help expose and
understand the flaws -- allowing contributors to learn from their
mistakes and move on.

With such an approach, funding for "research and postgraduate
training" would be fruitfully combined. This modest proposal hinges on
one simple point: transparency. Much as the taxpayer "should" have
access to research results they pay for (cf. the recent of appointment
of Jimmy Wales as a UK government advisor) and scientists "should"
have access to the journals that they publish in (cf. Winston Hide's
recent resignation as editor of Genomics), so to do we as
citizen-scientists have a moral imperative to be transparent about how
research funding is allocated, and how research is done. Not just
transparent: positively pastoral.

The Free Technology Guild: a candidate solution

Suppose someone needs to put together a team of four persons: a
programmer, a statistician, an anthropologist, and a small-scale
capitalist. This team would have the project to create a new social
media tool over the course of 3 months; the plan is to make money
through a subscription model. As an open online community for work on
technology projects, the Free Technology Guild
(http://campus.ftacademy.org/wiki/index.php/Free_Technology_Guild)
could help:

* by helping the project designer specify the input/output
requirements for the project;

* by helping the right people for the job find and join the project;

* by providing peer support and mentoring to participants throughout
the duration of the project.

Because everything is developed in the open (code, models, ethnography),
everyone wins, including downstream users, who can replicate the same
approach with any suitable changes "on demand". (And, in case things go
badly, those results can be shared too -- the broader community can help
everyone involved learn from these experiences in a constructive fashion.)

What is needed now

We are currently building the FTG on a volunteer basis, but within the
year we hope to set up a service marketplace where we and others can
contribute and charge for services related to free/open technology,
science, and software. Although we have criticised the current mode of
research funding as inefficient, we would be enthusiastic about
contributing to grant proposals that would support our work to build a
different kind of system.  But without waiting for funding to arrive,
we are actively recruiting volunteers to form the foundation of the
Free Technology Guild. We seek technologists, researchers,
organizational strategists, business-persons -- and
students/interns/apprentices in these fields and others. Together, we
can bootstrap a new way to do research.
Richard Jensen | 22 May 21:13
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real scholarship is expensive

There seems to be a great deal of misunderstanding among Wikipedians 
how academe actually works. Piotr thinks a grad student can produce a 
scholarly journal. Look at history. In reality it takes hundreds of 
scholars working together (almost all of whom are paid professional 
salaries by universities.) Printing and mailing costs are only a 
fraction of the total expenses for a scholarly journal, so the 
advantage of going electronic is small in terms of production costs.

I talked just now with the editor of ''The Journal of American 
History'' --I used to be on its editorial board. It has dozens of 
editorial board members and hundreds of unpaid scholars who evaluate 
articles and write for it.  They are paid not by the Journal but by 
their own universities to do this kind of high prestige 
"service."  (History professors are paid for research, teaching and 
service--the average salary in USA for a full professor of history is 
$83,000 plus 25% benefits.)  The Journal has 14 in-house staff 
members, who are paid salaries at rates standard for Indiana 
University.  Most have PhD's or are PhD candidates--that's eight 
years of specialized, expensive post-graduate education.  Book 
reviews are a main role. They read 3000 new books a year and select 
the most important 600 for actual review, using a database of 11,000 
available scholars. 300 full-length manuscripts a year are submitted 
and the senior editors and outside reviewers narrow that to the best 
10%. The staffers do intensive quality control on the accepted 
articles and are backed by a major university library (which is 
expensive.) They occupy nice offices with phones & computers etc that 
are also paid for.  The Journal pays travel expenses for 
meetings.  The output is 4 issues a year with 1300 pages of high 
quality scholarship delivered to about 10,000 historians and libraries.

Indeed anyone can try to publish a junk history journal single-handed 
and give it away free; almost nobody does so. The software is there 
but the necessary expertise is very expensive and takes decades to 
develop. It costs real money to produce the "reliable secondary 
source" that Wikipedia wholly depends upon. The question is who pays for it.

Richard Jensen
Richard Jensen | 21 May 22:02
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Re: the gulf between Wikipedia and Academe

For Wikipedia editors perhaps the most useful feature of the typical 
article in a scholarly journal is the opening section that summarizes 
the state of the debate on a specific issue.  Here you can get in a 
nutshell what the main issues are and who is taking what position, 
with citations to the main publications,  In history articles, very 
few editors make use of this. That is a serious research failure on 
the part of Wikipedia, in my opinion.

Richard Jensen
Richard Jensen | 21 May 21:05
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Re: the gulf between Wikipedia and Academe

thanks for the note--

I largely agree.  Are relations between Wiki and Academe better in 
UK? I hope so

Richard
At 12:51 PM 5/21/2012, you wrote:
>Hi Richard,
>
>Apart from Featured Article work, I suspect that a very large 
>proportion of our referencing is driven by Google search and 
>latterly Google Books. There have been a few schemes to give the 
>more active editors accounts with various reference sources - some 
>Highbeam accounts were recently divvied out, and a large proportion 
>of us in the UK can get such subscriptions via our libraries. But if 
>the first phase of Wikipedia was people writing what they knew, we 
>are still largely in the second phase with most of the sourcing done 
>via the Internet.
>
>It would be interesting to see if there were many takers for a 
>training session on using other sources, but with the majority of 
>our editors, and especially the content creators, being graduates, 
>post graduates or current undergraduates it would be a fair 
>assumption that a very large proportion of our editors know how to 
>access journals, but it would be interesting to find out whether 
>they don't do so due to lack of time lack of access or some other reason.
>
>
>As for the idea that students use the pedia and professors disparage 
>it, that is of course something of a simplification, a few months 
>ago I met someone who'd been to a Cambridge meetup and been in the 
>minority of non-professors present. But Cambridge will of course be 
>ahead of the game in this sort of thing. I suspect the main issue 
>here is conservatism, and in a few years time Academics who are 
>hostile to Wikipedia will be as common as Academics who despise 
>electronic calculators.
>
>This issue of experts and Wikipedia is more complex. Wikipedians are 
>rightly suspicious of "experts" who claim that their innate 
>knowledge should override that of reliable sources. But experts who 
>clearly know their subject, can communicate it to a general audience 
>and can furnish sources to back up their content are usually well 
>respected, especially if they waive pseudonymity and use their 
>userpage to link to their University page. The areas where that 
>doesn't quite work tend to be ones where Academic views are 
>contentious in real life. Climate change being an extreme example.
>
>
>Regards
>
>
>WSC
>
>On 21 May 2012 18:26, Richard Jensen 
><<mailto:rjensen <at> uic.edu>rjensen <at> uic.edu> wrote:
>Han-Teng Liao highlights a very serious issue regarding the large 
>gulf between Wikipedia and academe. University students appear to be 
>enthusiastic users of Wikipedia while the professors either shy away 
>or are quite hostile and warn their students against Wikipedia.
>
>One factor is academe's culture of original research and personal 
>responsibility by name for publications, versus Wikipedia's culture 
>of anonymity and its rejection of the notion that an editor can be 
>respected as an expert.
>
>A second factor is the need for editors to have free access to 
>published reliable secondary sources. I think Google-scholar and 
>Amazon have solved much of the editors' access problem regarding books.
>
>As for journals--which is where this debate started--I do not think 
>that open access will help Wiki editors much because I am struck by 
>how rarely Wiki articles (on historical topics) cite any journal 
>articles.  I've offered to help editors get JSTOR articles but no 
>one ever asks.  There is something in the Wiki culture that's amiss 
>here. Possibly it's that few Wiki editors ever took the graduate 
>history courses that explain how to use scholarly journals.
>
>Maybe we need a program to help our editors overcome this gap and 
>give them access to a massive base of highly relevant RS.
>
>Richard Jensen
>
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Richard Jensen | 21 May 19:26
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the gulf between Wikipedia and Academe

Han-Teng Liao highlights a very serious issue regarding the large 
gulf between Wikipedia and academe. University students appear to be 
enthusiastic users of Wikipedia while the professors either shy away 
or are quite hostile and warn their students against Wikipedia.

One factor is academe's culture of original research and personal 
responsibility by name for publications, versus Wikipedia's culture 
of anonymity and its rejection of the notion that an editor can be 
respected as an expert.

A second factor is the need for editors to have free access to 
published reliable secondary sources. I think Google-scholar and 
Amazon have solved much of the editors' access problem regarding books.

As for journals--which is where this debate started--I do not think 
that open access will help Wiki editors much because I am struck by 
how rarely Wiki articles (on historical topics) cite any journal 
articles.  I've offered to help editors get JSTOR articles but no one 
ever asks.  There is something in the Wiki culture that's amiss here. 
Possibly it's that few Wiki editors ever took the graduate history 
courses that explain how to use scholarly journals.

Maybe we need a program to help our editors overcome this gap and 
give them access to a massive base of highly relevant RS.

Richard Jensen
Richard Jensen | 21 May 08:20
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Re: Access2research petition = bad idea


The funding agencies in the U.S. typically provide a) publication 
page-charges by the journals; b) "indirect costs" which are used to 
fund the library purchase of journals as well as run the campus. The 
notion that taxpayers "should not pay twice" seems to say that a) and 
b) should be ended. Furthermore no one will need to pay for a journal 
subscription to read the contents, which (I predict) will lead to a 
very large falloff in (c) paid subscriptions.  The petition will mean 
journals that get their funds from a-b-c, will be sharply curtailed 
financially.  (there are also membership societies that have journals 
and I think they will lose a lot of subscribers too.) So who will 
step in to support the academic journals?? the taxpayers? the tuition 
payers? the foundations? I fear none of them will.

Richard Jensen
Dario Taraborelli | 21 May 07:19
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Access2research petition

(apologies for cross-posting)

A petition you should care about: require free access over the Internet to journal articles arising from
taxpayer-funded research.

http://access2research.org/
http://wh.gov/6TH

25,000 signatures in 30 days (by June 19) gets an official response from the White House.

Dario
emijrp | 19 May 20:08
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Google releases dataset linking strings and concepts

Hi all;

Just a quick notice about a new Google dataset related to Wikipedia.[1][2][3]

Regards,
emijrp

[1] http://googleresearch.blogspot.com.es/2012/05/from-words-to-concepts-and-back.html
[2] http://ebiquity.umbc.edu/blogger/2012/05/19/google-releases-database-linking-strings-and-concepts/
[3] http://www-nlp.stanford.edu/pubs/crosswikis-data.tar.bz2/

--

Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com
Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain)

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