Mark Williamson | 2 Dec 19:03 2007
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copyvio on yoruba wikipedia?

Hi all,

It seems that many of the pages on the Yoruba Wikipedia are directly
copied from a book, and on top of that, they appear to be
non-encyclopedic and religious in nature.

http://yo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adebowale
http://yo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta_lagba%3F
http://yo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariigbodowi

Normally, of course, this sort of complaint belongs within the
administrative structure of the respective Wikipedia, but the current
active admin, http://yo.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Loadewole is actually
the one who created these pages. I wonder if something bigger should
be done?

Even pages which could possibly not be copyvio, such as
http://yo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aajo_ewa , still appear to be on
religious dogma and are of questionable encyclopedic value.

Mark
Nino Y | 3 Dec 09:37 2007
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Commons: Help!

Hi all!

I've written a new page for the swahili version:
http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bao. I wanted to put the images in the Commons
pages as suggested, so I started by putting the first image
immagine-004.jpg. I succeeded to uploading the image but I haven't
understood how to link it in the page I've written.

I've read the guide but I wasted my time: I failed! So I decided to upload
the images in the page itself.

Can someone help me?

Thanks a lot,
Nino

http://www.vessella.it (italiano, esperanto, kiswahili, english) 
http://www.changamano.org (Iniziative di solidarietŕ per la Tanzania)
http://www.lernado.it (Articoli di quotidiani della Tanzania, Corso di
lingua swahili, Corso di lingua esperanto, Vocabolario esperanto-italiano,
Jifunze lugha ya Kiesperanto, Kamusi ya Kiesperanto) 
http://www.swahili.it/bao (Versione moderna e tanzana di un gioco diffuso in
tutto il mondo antico)

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Marco Chiesa | 3 Dec 10:47 2007
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Re: Commons: Help!

Nino Y ha scritto:
> Hi all!
>
> I've written a new page for the swahili version:
> http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bao. I wanted to put the images in the Commons
> pages as suggested, so I started by putting the first image
> immagine-004.jpg. I succeeded to uploading the image but I haven't
> understood how to link it in the page I've written.
>
> I've read the guide but I wasted my time: I failed! So I decided to upload
> the images in the page itself.
>
> Can someone help me?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Nino
>
>   
Hi Nino,
  it seems you haven't uploaded the image to commons, 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Immagine-004.jpg is empty. 
You've only uploaded the image locally on sw.wikipedia. However, the 
image description lacks pretty much every requirement, such as author, 
source, date and license under which the image is available. The license 
must be a free one.

To put an image from commons in an article is just exactly the same as 
putting a locally uploaded one: [[Image:nameoftheimage.ext|<parameters>]].

Marco (Cruccone)
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Nino Y | 3 Dec 11:59 2007
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Re: Commons: Help!

I've just discoverd that as I used the italian page to upload the image it
is visible in http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immagine:Immagine-004.jpg
But there is written:

''Questo file č ora disponibile su Wikimedia Commons con un nome differente:
tavolabao''

But if you go to the link to 'tavolabao' you get: "No file by this name
exists."

Thanks,
Nino

http://www.vessella.it (italiano, esperanto, kiswahili, english) 
http://www.changamano.org (Iniziative di solidarietŕ per la Tanzania) 
http://www.lernado.it (Articoli di quotidiani della Tanzania, Corso di
lingua swahili, Corso di lingua esperanto, Vocabolario esperanto-italiano,
Jifunze lugha ya Kiesperanto, Kamusi ya Kiesperanto) 
http://www.swahili.it/bao (Versione moderna e tanzana di un gioco diffuso in
tutto il mondo antico)

Qualsiasi utilizzo non autorizzato del presente messaggio e dei suoi
allegati č vietato e potrebbe costituire reato.
Opinioni, conclusioni o altre informazioni riportate nel messaggio
potrebbero essere dovute a modifiche non autorizzate o danneggiamenti e il
mittente non se ne assume alcuna responsabilitŕ. 

> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: Marco Chiesa [mailto:mc378 <at> hermes.cam.ac.uk] Per conto di Marco 
> Chiesa
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Marco Chiesa | 3 Dec 12:26 2007
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Re: Commons: Help!

Hi Nino,
on the Italian Wikipedia left side bar there are two buttons: "Carica un 
file" and "Carica su Commons". The first one uploads the file on the 
Italian Wikipedia, the second one on Commons. So, if you click on that 
one, provided that you're logged on Commons, just follow the 
instructions and uploading should be straightforward.

Basically:
from the Italian Wikipedia: click on "Carica su Commons"
the page http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Upload/it opens
I think "È interamente opera mia" 
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&uselang=itownwork> 
applies - therefore click on that link (or another one if more appropriate)
Fill in the tempalte in the "Dettagli del file" box, select a license, 
same as in other projects more or less
That should be it.

The template {{NowCommons}} on it.wikipedia is used to tell an 
administrator that the same image is available on commons, but won't put 
that image on commons alone.

BTW - I suppose you're Italian, we can continue the discussion in 
Italian if you want (maybe off-list?)

Marco

Nino Y ha scritto:
> I've just discoverd that as I used the italian page to upload the image it
> is visible in http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immagine:Immagine-004.jpg
> But there is written:
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David Gerard | 3 Dec 12:48 2007
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Re: Commons: Help!

On 03/12/2007, Marco Chiesa <chiesa.marco@...> wrote:

> on the Italian Wikipedia left side bar there are two buttons: "Carica un
> file" and "Carica su Commons". The first one uploads the file on the
> Italian Wikipedia, the second one on Commons. So, if you click on that
> one, provided that you're logged on Commons, just follow the
> instructions and uploading should be straightforward.

Does this cause much newbie confusion? It sounds like a useful idea
for en:wp (which ideally should only have non-free images uploaded
directly to it). I'm wondering what issues show up.

(cc to commons-l)

- d.
Nino Y | 3 Dec 12:53 2007
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R: Commons: Help!

It's very frustating: I spent a lot of time to understand what I should have
to do (isn't there a more simple, a step-by-step guide?) navigating in
english and italian pages and the result was a very chaos!

Ciao,
Nino

http://www.vessella.it (italiano, esperanto, kiswahili, english) 
http://www.changamano.org (Iniziative di solidarietŕ per la Tanzania)
http://www.lernado.it (Articoli di quotidiani della Tanzania, Corso di
lingua swahili, Corso di lingua esperanto, Vocabolario esperanto-italiano,
Jifunze lugha ya Kiesperanto, Kamusi ya Kiesperanto) 
http://www.swahili.it/bao (Versione moderna e tanzana di un gioco diffuso in
tutto il mondo antico)

Qualsiasi utilizzo non autorizzato del presente messaggio e dei suoi
allegati č vietato e potrebbe costituire reato.
Opinioni, conclusioni o altre informazioni riportate nel messaggio
potrebbero essere dovute a modifiche non autorizzate o danneggiamenti e il
mittente non se ne assume alcuna responsabilitŕ. 

> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: wikipedia-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org 
> [mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org] Per conto di 
> David Gerard
> Inviato: lunedě 3 dicembre 2007 12.48
> A: wikipedia-l <at> lists.wikimedia.org; Wikimedia Commons Discussion List
> Oggetto: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Commons: Help!
> 
> On 03/12/2007, Marco Chiesa <chiesa.marco <at> gmail.com> wrote:
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65s.mg | 7 Dec 21:30 2007
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Inserting an article from another wiki

Hello, I have a problem. I want to insert an article from another wiki without copying text (source). Is it
possible? Thank you for answer. -MGrabovsky
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User 32X | 7 Dec 21:41 2007
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Re: Inserting an article from another wiki

65s.mg@... schrieb:
> Hello, I have a problem. I want to insert an article from another wiki without copying text (source). Is it
possible? Thank you for answer. -MGrabovsky

You could ask an admin to import the article.
Sadly, the import function has to be enabled between these two wikis.

32X
David Gerard | 7 Dec 21:51 2007
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Re: Inserting an article from another wiki

On 07/12/2007, User 32X <wikipedia@...> wrote:
> 65s.mg@... schrieb:

> > Hello, I have a problem. I want to insert an article from another wiki without copying text (source). Is it
possible? Thank you for answer. -MGrabovsky

> You could ask an admin to import the article.
> Sadly, the import function has to be enabled between these two wikis.

That's still copying the article over.

Transcluding an article between wikis (the way you can transclude one
inside the wiki with {{ }} ) isn't possible (as yet).

- d.

Gmane