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Florence Devouard | 1 Oct 2007 02:28
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Re: Indefinite ban problem

Hello

Would it be possible to move this discussion to the english wikipedia 
mailing list please ?

Thanks

Ant

Thomas Dalton wrote:
>> So editors can take on the power of being an Administrator without
>> the accountability and responsibility it entails. And yet they
>> require my courtesy to reply when asked, and stick to the most
>> trivial of guidelines when it suits them. This is very one-sided.
> 
> "accountability and responsibility" does not mean answering whatever
> questions anyone wants to ask them. If you have a problem with an
> admin, you can always go to ArbCom - it is through ArbCom that admins
> are held accountable.
> 
> I doubt any admin would block someone for not answering a question.
> More likely, they would decide that someone has done something worthy
> of being blocked, but ask them for an explanation to give them a
> chance to get out of it. You are being blocked for the original
> offence, not for failing to answer the question. The same applies to
> admins during ArbCom cases - if there is a clear case against them,
> and they don't respond to the case, they can expect to be desysopped.
> They have the option of responding to the case and possible explaining
> their way out of it.
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Berto 'd Sera | 2 Oct 2007 14:21
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pms wiki 10k milestone


Hoi,

Habemus 10k. It's but a small article about a ligurian city called Taggia
http://pms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taggia Anyway, it's manmade, as the most of
what we have :)

Can't believe it's happening :)

Berto 'd Sera
Personagi dl'ann 2006 per l'arvista american-a Time (tanme tuti vojaotri)
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1569514,00.html
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Erik Moeller | 2 Oct 2007 14:26
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Re: pms wiki 10k milestone

That's excellent. Congrats!

On 10/2/07, Berto 'd Sera <albertoserra@...> wrote:
>
> Hoi,
>
> Habemus 10k. It's but a small article about a ligurian city called Taggia
> http://pms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taggia Anyway, it's manmade, as the most of
> what we have :)
>
> Can't believe it's happening :)
>
> Berto 'd Sera
> Personagi dl'ann 2006 per l'arvista american-a Time (tanme tuti vojaotri)
> http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1569514,00.html
>
>
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Brock Weller | 2 Oct 2007 14:57
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Re: pms wiki 10k milestone

Seems awfully civil for the 'pms' wiki. I expected more yelling and
hostility ;)  bad jokes aside, congratulations, it's quite a nice
collaboration.

On 10/2/07, Erik Moeller <erik@...> wrote:
> That's excellent. Congrats!
>
> On 10/2/07, Berto 'd Sera <albertoserra@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hoi,
> >
> > Habemus 10k. It's but a small article about a ligurian city called Taggia
> > http://pms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taggia Anyway, it's manmade, as the most of
> > what we have :)
> >
> > Can't believe it's happening :)
> >
> > Berto 'd Sera
> > Personagi dl'ann 2006 per l'arvista american-a Time (tanme tuti vojaotri)
> > http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1569514,00.html
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Wikipedia-l mailing list
> > Wikipedia-l@...
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
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Marco Chiesa | 2 Oct 2007 15:05
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Re: pms wiki 10k milestone

Berto 'd Sera wrote:

>Hoi,
>
>Habemus 10k. It's but a small article about a ligurian city called Taggia
>http://pms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taggia Anyway, it's manmade, as the most of
>what we have :)
>
>Can't believe it's happening :)
>
>  
>
Congratulations!
Cruccone
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Waerth | 2 Oct 2007 15:29
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Re: pms wiki 10k milestone

Congratiogefeliciflapstartulations!

I should hope it is human made ..... bot operators are humans to though ;)

Waerth

> Berto 'd Sera wrote:
>
>   
>> Hoi,
>>
>> Habemus 10k. It's but a small article about a ligurian city called Taggia
>> http://pms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taggia Anyway, it's manmade, as the most of
>> what we have :)
>>
>> Can't believe it's happening :)
>>
>>  
>>
>>     
> Congratulations!
> Cruccone
>
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Berto 'd Sera | 2 Oct 2007 15:43
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Re: pms wiki 10k milestone

Hi! Thanks everybody :)

Well, I'm not against bots in principle. But I do think there's a limit,
over which a botpedia fails to be a real project. IMHO, it's better to have
a small and slow community, but still a community, than making a lot of
quick articles without actually having a structure to support it.

Anyway, this is absolutely IMHO.

Berto 'd Sera
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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1569514,00.html

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Congratiogefeliciflapstartulations!

I should hope it is human made ..... bot operators are humans to though ;)

Waerth

> Berto 'd Sera wrote:
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>   
>> Hoi,
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David Gerard | 2 Oct 2007 16:48
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Re: pms wiki 10k milestone

On 02/10/2007, Berto 'd Sera <albertoserra@...> wrote:

> Well, I'm not against bots in principle. But I do think there's a limit,
> over which a botpedia fails to be a real project. IMHO, it's better to have
> a small and slow community, but still a community, than making a lot of
> quick articles without actually having a structure to support it.

It depends if it's part of a project. When I joined en:wp in late
2003, 1/6 of all articles were still Rambot-generated US place
articles, most unedited except by the robot. It was very annoying.
However, we could claim *complete* coverage of *every place in the
US*. And if a bot could assist en:wp with covering other countries to
that level of detail, that would be a good thing as well, for the same
reason.

- d.
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Erik Moeller | 3 Oct 2007 13:29
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Unofficial stable version demo

Brion is continuing to review the FlaggedRevs extension for security
and scalabilty. (He's already made several fixes.) Meanwhile, I've set
up a small demo of the extension in the configuration which I propose
we should use for the English Wikipedia. Please don't hit the server
too hard or I'll have to take it down. :-)

http://wikixp.org/qa/

(This is courteously hosted by the University of Bamberg in
collaboration with Open Progress.)

The page should pretty much be self-explanatory.

Thanks once again to the two main developers of the extension, Aaron
Schulz and Jörg Baach.

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Waerth | 3 Oct 2007 13:38
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Re: Unofficial stable version demo

Hello Erik and everyone reading this,

I might be speaking ahead of the flock here. But I am pretty sure the 
Dutch wikipedia would be interested in this as well as we have had a lot 
of discussions about this for a long time already.

Waerth

Erik Moeller wrote:
> Brion is continuing to review the FlaggedRevs extension for security
> and scalabilty. (He's already made several fixes.) Meanwhile, I've set
> up a small demo of the extension in the configuration which I propose
> we should use for the English Wikipedia. Please don't hit the server
> too hard or I'll have to take it down. :-)
>
> http://wikixp.org/qa/
>
> (This is courteously hosted by the University of Bamberg in
> collaboration with Open Progress.)
>
> The page should pretty much be self-explanatory.
>
> Thanks once again to the two main developers of the extension, Aaron
> Schulz and Jörg Baach.
>
>   

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