koyaanisqatsi | 1 Aug 2001 19:10

Re: Wikipedia down right now ?

I'm getting editing locks on everything right now too.  I'd say that
wikipedia is, for the moment, down.

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Clifford A. Adams | 1 Aug 2001 20:00

Edit Lock problems

> I'm getting editing locks on everything right now too.

Just a quick reminder: *anyone* can clear the editing lock by
visiting this URL:

http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki.cgi?action=unlock

If the lock is stuck, it will take about 1 minute and then
return a message about a "forced" unlock.

Eventually I will probably make the locks self-clearing, or
possibly check the time of the lock and remove ones that
are too old.

        --Cliff

koyaanisqatsi | 1 Aug 2001 23:01

Re: Edit Lock problems and a question

>> I'm getting editing locks on everything right now too.
>
>Just a quick reminder: *anyone* can clear the editing lock by
>visiting this URL:
>
>http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki.cgi?action=unlock
>

etc.

Ok, thanks.

A question:  I mentioned in the feature requests that a search for
"John MacDonald" will not turn up "John A. MacDonald" or "John D
MacDonald".  So I tried to search for _ , with the purpose of changing
them back to spaces so that those terms will turn up in searches.  But
that search returned 6055 pages, which is a problem in itself, but the
one :-) that I checked did not contain an underscore at all.  Is there
some way to perform this search accurately?0
Andre Engels | 2 Aug 2001 10:27
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Searching

Could the search option be changed so that it gives the pages linking to
a certain page, rather than the pages containing a certain phrase? As things
are now, a page with "... is an actor who always wears panama hats" (or
even "The panamarican highway" will show up in a search for Panama, but
"... the [[Panama|Panamese]] prime minister..." will not. I think such a
search could also be made faster than the current one.

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Jan Hidders | 2 Aug 2001 11:04
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Re: Edit Lock problems and a question

On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 02:01:08PM -0700, koyaanisqatsi@... wrote:
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> A question:  I mentioned in the feature requests that a search for
> "John MacDonald" will not turn up "John A. MacDonald" or "John D
> MacDonald".  So I tried to search for _ , with the purpose of changing
> them back to spaces so that those terms will turn up in searches.  But
> that search returned 6055 pages, which is a problem in itself, but the
> one :-) that I checked did not contain an underscore at all.  Is there
> some way to perform this search accurately?0

Since you can use regulare expressions you might try looking for

  John.*MacDonald

The problem with the '_' is that Gareth also searches the titles of the
articles in the form where the spaces are replaced with underscores. So the
result of the search contains also all the articles with a space in the
title. Perhaps the search should be limited to the body of the articles? I
think it would be nice anyway to have a separate search for bodies and
titles.

Kind regards,

-- Jan Hidders

Jan Hidders | 2 Aug 2001 11:14
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Re: Searching

On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 10:27:20AM +0200, Andre Engels wrote:
> Could the search option be changed so that it gives the pages linking to
> a certain page, rather than the pages containing a certain phrase? As things
> are now, a page with "... is an actor who always wears panama hats" (or
> even "The panamarican highway" will show up in a search for Panama, but
> "... the [[Panama|Panamese]] prime minister..." will not. I think such a
> search could also be made faster than the current one.

Hallo Andre,

I usually do that by searching for "\[\[[pP]anama". You probably know why
and how this works.

Kind regards,

-- Jan Hidders

PS.   We hebben elkaar al eens in de Mensa ontmoet, geloof ik. :-)

Andre Engels | 2 Aug 2001 11:21
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Re: Searching

Jan Hidders wrote:

> PS.   We hebben elkaar al eens in de Mensa ontmoet, geloof ik. :-)

Dat klinkt behoorlijk waarschijnlijk.

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Larry Olin Horn | 3 Aug 2001 01:03
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time / NTP

I notice that Wikipedia always seems to be about 5 minutes ahead of my 
time, which I keep set via NTP.  Any thought of running NTP on the server?

loh

Axel Boldt | 3 Aug 2001 17:20
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Suggestioins for improved search

Hello,

I think most users mainly want to search on article titles, not on
full text. Maybe that should be the default behavior of the search box
(changeable in preferences?). 

Then there should be an "Advanced
search" page where you can do full text search with regular expressions
and all the fixings. This would be used by authors, but users could
also see a link to this page on their list of returned search results.

I think search results would become more relevant and searching would
become quicker.

Alternatively, one could modify the presentation of search results so
that those articles whose title matches the search string are listed
first, followed by the article body matches.

Also, I don't think it helps to have subpages listed as indented.
Indentation suggests one of two things: the indented entries are not
as important as the others, or they belong together into some group,
neither of which applies to the search results. I think it would be
easier to scan the search results if all results would be indented
except for the first one of every letter, like this:

Axiom
  Arian nation
  Austria
Denmark
Fishing
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koyaanisqatsi | 3 Aug 2001 17:48

Re: Edit Lock problems and a question


Interesting.  But so how would I go about finding all pages containing
an underscore in the text (so that I can change them to spaces if they
are in article titles as a cache-bug fix, so that the term will then
turn up in a search)?  Is it currently possible?  I'm just curious
because I imagine that most people will search for e.g. "Puerto Rico,"
not "Puerto*Rico."

>Since you can use regulare expressions you might try looking for
>
>  John.*MacDonald
>
>The problem with the '_' is that Gareth also searches the titles of the
>articles in the form where the spaces are replaced with underscores.
So the
>result of the search contains also all the articles with a space in the
>title. Perhaps the search should be limited to the body of the
articles? I
>think it would be nice anyway to have a separate search for bodies and
>titles.
>
>Kind regards,
>
>-- Jan Hidders
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