Tomasz Wegrzanowski | 3 Jan 2003 17:27
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links on special pages

In most special pages, names in text aren't linked to appropriate articles.

For example Upload page doesn't link to JPEG, PNG and OGG articles,
what would help a lot, as most people don't know what PNG and OGG are.

Fixing that would just be s/// on Language*.php files.
Staffan Vilcans | 3 Jan 2003 17:25
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Insults at Swedish Wikipedia

As suggested by Maveric149 and after much though about if it was worth the
trouble I have decided to post here and ask for your suggestions what
should be done. There are some other issues (locked and deleted pages,
threats et.c.), but I think the issue of the insults is what affects me
most, at least for now.

I have been called "skitstövel" (bastard), "bråkig typ" (troublemaker),
"terrorisera" (terrorise), "paria" (pariah), "pest" (plague), "idiot"
(idiot), "en ingen" (a nobody), "någon person från ett sinnesjukhus" (some
person from a lunatic asylum), "King Louie" (I think he's refering to the
character from Kipling's The Jungle Book), "terrorist" (he usually refers
to adding language links as "terrorism"), "apa" (monkey (altough I don't
think he's a racist)), "gris" (pig), "som människa och individ finns du
inte" (as human and indivudual you don't exist), "Nedkastad i en hink
bildar ni tillsammans ingenting annat en än grön sörja, som klibbar och
kladdar och ställer till problem" (Thrown in a bucket you make no more
than a green goo that messes up and causes problem) and he finishes it off
with adding that "who cares is stinking goo have feelings".

Actually I do have feelings (and I'm not a stinking goo either, by the
way) and since this has been going on for a couple of weeks now it starts
to get to me.

--

-- 
May the chunty be with you...
Jimmy Wales | 3 Jan 2003 17:24

Re: Insults at Swedish Wikipedia

I think it is going to be necessary to ban this person.  Such behavior
is completely unreasonable.  Staffan, I support you completely on this
point, even though I have no idea what is going on more generally.

--Jimbo
Staffan Vilcans | 3 Jan 2003 17:54
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Re: Insults at Swedish Wikipedia

Jimbo:

> I think it is going to be necessary to ban this person.  Such behavior
> is completely unreasonable.  Staffan, I support you completely on this
> point, even though I have no idea what is going on more generally.

I would hope that that wouldn't be necessary. He is a valued contributor
and he has done much for the Swedish Wikipedia, perhaps more than anyone
else. It's obvious that I can't persuade him to stop, but that doesn't
mean it's impossible.

In all honesty I must say that I'm not always the easiest person to get
along with and I'm not afraid to voice my opinion, but you can't have an
intelligent conversation with somebody that just uses insults.
Sven Eriksson | 4 Jan 2003 04:03
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Re: Insults at Swedish Wikipedia

I might have missed some earlier discussions, but I oppose any ban of Dan.
Even if he overreacted, Staffan is no saint either. Actually Dan IS the
Swedish wikipedia, if you ban him you ban most of the activity there.

/Sven
Chuck Smith | 4 Jan 2003 17:40
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moved to Rotterdam

Hey,

I usually don't use this list for personal items, but
I just moved to Rotterdam and I looked in the list of
Wikipedians in the English version and noticed that
there is no one from the Netherlands nor Holland are
there.  I'd be interested in meeting local
Wikipedians.  I'm volunteering at the TEJO (The World
Organization of Young Esperantists) office at Nieuwe
Binnenweg 176.

Thanks,
Chuck

=====
I'm in Germany!  Mi estas en Germanio!
=========================================
Esperanto: http://www.lernu.net/
My Webpage: http://amuzulo.babil.komputilo.com/
Enciklopedio: http://eo.wikipedia.org/

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Dan Koehl | 4 Jan 2003 20:45
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Re: Intlwiki-l digest, Vol 1 #295 - 5 msgs

Since I permanently interupted the naziwar on the Swedish wikipedia, and came a target for Staffan it has
been more or less impossible to contribute anyway. If Staffan is not banned, or if you bann me results in the
same thing, I cant write anymore there, and have to find a new place again. I started with full power there at
the 21 of november, and held speed until 12 of december when Staffan and the other guy misused the wikipedia
in their editing war. 

So, as things are, the difference between banning me, Sven, and letting Staffan terrorize other people in
peace, results in the same thing, I cant work there anymore. I had a lot of fun with you all and its not so bad,
we brought (within one month) the Swedish wikipedia from 265 to over 3000 articles until Staffan started
his revange. 

As long as rules dont prevent Internet trolls from destrying this project there will always be alot of
agression, and a lot of "bad words" I belive.

My opinion is that its better to create a landshape where rules limits peoples possibility to troll others,
preventing personal disputes and agression. A wikisystem is to fragile and vulnerable in terms of
working platform, if everything is possible, the freedom can always be misused by [[X]]s whos prime
ambition is to locate persons who they can upset, a behaviour they probably fineshaped throughout the
years on the  Internet. As for myself, when I sit fully concentrated with a working project, (after terror
since 12 of december) I do explode when the troll manage to mix into my work in some way, so feel free to ban me,
because my output since this hobby of Staffan brought me into such a bad mood, caused such a dropdown in my
writing that its below an average of 50 articles a day, and really doesnt count very much anymore. I give you
all freedom to copy the rest of apr 1000 articles at susning into sw.wikipedia. And I can tell you all, I wont
change in this matter, I will always call a bad guy a bad guy when they put their effort in making trouble with
you, misusing a public place. And my opinion is that normal persons need, and should get, protection
against terrorism regardless where, how much, and why.
- Dan Koehl
> 
> Von: intlwiki-l-request@...
> Datum: 2003/01/04 Sa PM 01:00:02 GMT+01:00
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Giskart | 5 Jan 2003 00:28
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Re: moved to Rotterdam

I forward this to the list of Wikipedia NL and a Dutch Esperanto list.

Chuck Smith <msochuck=/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w <at> public.gmane.org> wrote in 
news:20030104164039.53496.qmail@...:

> Hey,
> 
> I usually don't use this list for personal items, but
> I just moved to Rotterdam and I looked in the list of
> Wikipedians in the English version and noticed that
> there is no one from the Netherlands nor Holland are
> there.  I'd be interested in meeting local
> Wikipedians.  I'm volunteering at the TEJO (The World
> Organization of Young Esperantists) office at Nieuwe
> Binnenweg 176.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chuck
> 
> ====I'm in Germany!  Mi estas en Germanio!
> ========================================Esperanto: http://www.lernu.net/
> My Webpage: http://amuzulo.babil.komputilo.com/
> Enciklopedio: http://eo.wikipedia.org/
> 
> __________________________________________________________________
> 
> Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de
> Weihnachts-Einkäufe ohne Stress! http://shopping.yahoo.de
> 

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Giskart | 5 Jan 2003 03:54
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Re: Bulgarian .com->.org ??

[posted and mailed]

I have approved manual this message. The poster is not a list member.

phaito <exonie=G7cQnZ0M4Cw <at> public.gmane.org> wrote in 
news:5dso2ukfqq29intfis220hbltjtu8g7i60@...:

> The Bulgarian wiki exists on the http://bg.wikipedia.com domain but on
> the 'Create a new language on wikipedia' page is written that the .com
> domain uses older software and someone has to change it to the new
> one. Who could do that please ?
> And something more:
> it seems someone has started building a wiki on the bg.wikipedia.com
> domain but in Russian!! not in Bulgarian! probably by mistake or
> something?

The person who does the changes from the old wikis to the new is Brion 
Vibber ( brion AT pobox.com)
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/User%3ABrion

If you like to have youre wikipedia in your language you must translate 
some things.

http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-
bin/viewcvs.cgi/wikipedia/phpwiki/newcodebase/

There you can find the language configuration files of the Wikipedia's.
You need to translate it.

This the languagefile of the Engelish Wikipedia
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Andre Engels | 5 Jan 2003 16:01
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Re: moved to Rotterdam

> I usually don't use this list for personal items, but
> I just moved to Rotterdam and I looked in the list of
> Wikipedians in the English version and noticed that
> there is no one from the Netherlands nor Holland are
> there.  I'd be interested in meeting local
> Wikipedians.  I'm volunteering at the TEJO (The World
> Organization of Young Esperantists) office at Nieuwe
> Binnenweg 176.

I don't know where you saw 'no one from the Netherlands nor Holland', but
at http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedians/The_Netherlands there's a list
with 10 of them. Alternatively, you could try checking it out at the Dutch
language Wikipedia.

Andre Engels

Gmane