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Cary Bass | 2 Dec 2009 01:32
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Office hours next Thursday, December 3


Hello all!

Next Thursday's office hours will feature Jay Walsh, the Foundation's
Head of Communications.  If you don't know Jay you can learn all about
him at <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:JayWalsh>.

Office hours on Thursday are from 1700 to 1800 UTC (9:00 AM - 10:00 AM PST).

If you do not have an IRC client, there are two ways you can come chat
using a web browser:  First is using the Wikizine chat gateway at
<http://chatwikizine.memebot.com/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi>.  Type a
nickname, select irc.freenode.net from the top menu and
#wikimedia-office from the following menu, then login to join.

Also, you can access Freenode by going to http://webchat.freenode.net/,
typing in the nickname of your choice and choosing wikimedia-office as
the channel.   You may be prompted to click through a security warning.
It should be all right.

Please feel free to forward (and translate!) this email to any other
relevant email lists you happen to be on.

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Charles Matthews | 2 Dec 2009 18:31

Court ruling and privacy policy

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/6710237/Wikipedia- 
ordered-by-judge-to-break-confidentiality-of-contributor.html

is a news story about the British High Court ordering the WMF to disclose an IP number of an editor. This is in
line with the statement of the Privacy Policy, as I read it. What other instances do we know of?

Charles

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Steve Bennett | 2 Dec 2009 18:41
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Re: Court ruling and privacy policy

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Charles Matthews
<charles.r.matthews <at> ntlworld.com> wrote:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/6710237/Wikipedia-
> ordered-by-judge-to-break-confidentiality-of-contributor.html

Hmm, how long do we reckon their identities will remain private? 3
days? A week, tops?

Steve

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Philippe Beaudette | 2 Dec 2009 18:42
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Question of the week on strategy-wiki

There's a new question of the week at Strategy wiki - http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Question_of_the_week

This week's question is:
The Wall Street Journal published an article last week detailing the  
research of Felipe Ortega, indicating that the number of editors has  
declined in recent years. Representatives from the Wikimedia  
Foundation, meanwhile, noted that a different methodology indicates  
that the number of active editors has in fact stabilized in the same  
time period--as opposed to having declined.

Regardless of the methodological differences, there appears to be a  
consensus that the Wikipedia community is becoming less friendly,  
particularly for new users. A few relevant data points:

Ed Chi's research (at the Palo Alto Research Center) indicates that  
new editors see 25% of their edits reverted
Comments left on the blog for the WSJ article indicate that a number  
of editors have left because of unfriendly treatment from other  
editors (e.g., edits reverted without explanations of why), and  
comments on this Wiki have echoed this impression
Proposals on this Wiki have indicated that a good reward system for  
contributions does not exist
Given all of the above, how could the community better reward  
contributions and nurture new editors? How can the Wikimedia projects  
become a friendlier and more welcoming place to share knowledge?

We'd love to have your input on the talk page of that question!

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Nathan | 2 Dec 2009 18:51
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Re: Court ruling and privacy policy

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Steve Bennett <stevagewp <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Hmm, how long do we reckon their identities will remain private? 3
> days? A week, tops?
>
> Steve

Not to mention the private information they wish to suppress. The fact
that this confidential information, which they do not want disclosed,
refers to a mother and her child suggests certain categories of
possible facts.

The order makes it clear that there is two parts to the information
suppressed: first, that there is some allegation of impropriety with
an expense account and second, that there is sensitive information
that relates to the child and that the father (or husband) is not a
party to the case. I'm sure someone on Wikipedia Review will do the
relevant digging and publish the whole story in short order.

Nathan

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Charles Matthews | 2 Dec 2009 20:07

Re: Question of the week on strategy-wiki

Philippe Beaudette wrote:
> Given all of the above, how could the community better reward  
> contributions and nurture new editors? How can the Wikimedia projects  
> become a friendlier and more welcoming place to share knowledge?
>
> We'd love to have your input on the talk page of that question!
>   
Apparently people should use edit summaries and only use American 
English. Agree with the first, disagree with the second (Americans 
asserting ownership on spelling is a negative rather than a positive 
factor); but both these matters were settled five years ago. I do think 
it's a mistake to be so reactive in terms of what is in the newspapers, 
for a strategy discussion; that's a PR matter.

Charles

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geni | 2 Dec 2009 21:39
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Re: Court ruling and privacy policy

2009/12/2 Steve Bennett <stevagewp <at> gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Charles Matthews
> <charles.r.matthews <at> ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/6710237/Wikipedia-
>> ordered-by-judge-to-break-confidentiality-of-contributor.html
>
> Hmm, how long do we reckon their identities will remain private? 3
> days? A week, tops?
>
> Steve

Indefinitely. UK media already decided not to touch it and from what
we can tell the person isn't notable enough for any other media
community to care. We delete too much stuff for it to be traceable
from digging through our logs. I can't see whoever actually did the
deletion leaking it.

Someone was being a [[WP:DICK]]. We have no reason to hope they are successful.

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Charles Matthews | 3 Dec 2009 13:21

Technology Guardian article on global article distribution

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/dec/02/wikipedia-known-unknowns-geotagging-knowledge

Mark Graham writes. Map of density by geo-tagging round the world, and a 
sensible comment that broadband is only just coming to parts of Africa, 
meaning we can expect more editing from there in future. Actually South 
Asia needs a mention in that connection also.

Charles

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geni | 3 Dec 2009 13:49
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Re: Technology Guardian article on global article distribution

2009/12/3 Charles Matthews <charles.r.matthews <at> ntlworld.com>:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/dec/02/wikipedia-known-unknowns-geotagging-knowledge
>
> Mark Graham writes. Map of density by geo-tagging round the world, and a
> sensible comment that broadband is only just coming to parts of Africa,
> meaning we can expect more editing from there in future. Actually South
> Asia needs a mention in that connection also.
>
> Charles
>

Original blog post has more maps:

http://zerogeography.blogspot.com/2009/11/mapping-geographies-of-wikipedia.html

Slovenia seems to have rather a high number of geocoded articles per
head of population.

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Bohgosity BumaskiL | 2 Dec 2009 09:38
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Interwiki

"stevertigo" <stvrtg <at> gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:7c402e010911271703r1285a9a7gb87af201c346cb25 <at> mail.gmail.com...
> Bod Notbod <bodnotbod <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> Could change, of course:
>> http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_awards_and_rewards
>
> Which leads us to the question - is that "peer to peer" logo David
> made open source, and can we upload it to Strategy wiki?
>
> -Stevertigo

Stewart's Law of Retroaction:
  It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.

If it is on wikimedia servers of any flavour, you can move it first and if
it is not clear from the upload page on the donor server, then ask
permission. I was recently thinking that it would be nice to hav prefixes
like (I am sure I missed a project at the end of this message), so that, if
the right flags were raised on the donor server, then the file could be used
by external reference, like in [[image:wikt:logo]].

This http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interwiki seems out of date for some of
the tasks that volunteers do, and could do more conveniently, like port
things from commons to the encyclopedia proper, which should not be 
necessary. HTML is *home* for external graphics and sound, unless you count 
some net nannies that say externals are a bad idea (and block them). The 
graphics and sound can come from an entirely different server, and for 
political reasons (spam, shock, porn),
externals had to be severely curtailed on wikipedia. I see an opening in
that interwiki document for a centralized list of HOW to use content
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