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wjhonson | 1 Apr 2009 01:05
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Re: [[Wikipedia talk:Date formatting and linking poll]]

<<-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Postlethwaite <ryanpostlethwaite <at> hotmail.com>
To: wikien-l <at> lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 3:50 pm
Subject: [WikiEN-l] [[Wikipedia talk:Date formatting and linking poll]]

Hello everyone,

This is just a quick email to remind you that [[Wikipedia talk:Date 
formatting and linking poll]] is now open and the community is invited 
to participate. If you have time, it would be great to hear your 
opinions - the greater the turnout the better!

Many thanks,

Ryan Postlethwaite>>

Lazy Link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Date_formatting_and_linking_poll

Because I'm Lazy

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Ryan Postlethwaite | 1 Apr 2009 01:12
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Re: [[Wikipedia talk:Date formatting and linking poll]]


I messed up the link (I posted the talk link) - it's actually http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Date_formatting_and_linking_poll

Sorry!

Ryan Postlethwaite

From: ryanpostlethwaite <at> hotmail.com
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Subject: [[Wikipedia talk:Date formatting and linking poll]]
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:50:12 +0000

Hello everyone,

This is just a quick email to remind you that [[Wikipedia talk:Date formatting and linking poll]] is now
open and the community is invited to participate. If you have time, it would be great to hear your opinions -
the greater the turnout the better!

Many thanks,

Ryan Postlethwaite

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Nathan | 1 Apr 2009 02:50
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Re: Flagged revs poll take 2

Well, the poll was closed with 80% support. It probably should have been
extended, if for no other reasons than that votes continued to come in at a
pretty good clip and there is no pressing reason to close it on deadline.

If I were a developer or a WMF executive, I might pause at implementing a
proposal for quite significant change on the English Wikipedia based on a
poll with only 320 participants.

Nathan
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Philip Sandifer | 1 Apr 2009 02:52
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Re: Flagged revs poll take 2


On Mar 31, 2009, at 8:50 PM, Nathan wrote:

> Well, the poll was closed with 80% support. It probably should have  
> been
> extended, if for no other reasons than that votes continued to come  
> in at a
> pretty good clip and there is no pressing reason to close it on  
> deadline.
>
> If I were a developer or a WMF executive, I might pause at  
> implementing a
> proposal for quite significant change on the English Wikipedia based  
> on a
> poll with only 320 participants.

If I were a developer or a WMF executive, I might pause at allowing  
major changes to be made at the whims of a community as cancerous as  
ours.

-Phil

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Jussi-Ville Heiskanen | 1 Apr 2009 03:56
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Re: Microsoft kills Encarta


On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
<cimonavaro <at> gmail.com> wrote:

>> I think this casts a new interesting perspective on
>> the decision by Microsoft to buy out powerset.com.
>>
>> I will be watching with interest, how they will develop
>> that product, and whether they intend to incorporate
>> it more extensively into their other product offerings.
>>
>> I have to admit I was skeptical initially when I heard
>> powerset.com would be "gobbled up". But should it
>> turn out that Microsoft were to really seriously put
>> effort into powerset.com, any relief Encyclopaedia
>> Britannica may have gained from the reduction of
>> competition for number two spot, may prove a little
>> short lived. That is unless of course Microsoft/Powerset
>> make some kind of deal with EB that they can use
>> powersets semantic search engine on also EB
>> product.
>>
>> Of course it is possible that MS have made the
>> judgment that the whole sector is not good for
>> them, but actually I would prefer to be hopeful
>> that this means they would give more impetus
>> to powerset now. I personally think powerset is
>> currently the best interface for wikipedia, bar
>> none.
>>
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Delirium | 1 Apr 2009 05:59

Re: Microsoft kills Encarta

doc wrote:
> Whether wikipedia 
> will prove to be a significant milestone in the collection  and 
> dissemination of knowledge, remains to be seen. It rather depends on 
> what the next generation brings, and whether it will owe a recognisable 
> debt to Wikipedia, or whether it will take us in another direction 
> altogether.

The fact that Wikipedia is free content seems like it should at least 
raise the odds that successor encyclopedias of one sort or another will 
use at least some of its content. Maybe there's some mechanism by which 
it might disappear into the ether, never to be thought of again, but I 
find it implausible that people won't be (legally) cribbing some of its 
articles for one repurposing or another decades into the future, even if 
it shut down tomorrow.

(Of course, my prediction would be on more solid ground if instead of it 
shutting down tomorrow, it refrains from shutting down until after the 
long-discussed license change to a clearer and simpler one.)

-Mark

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James Farrar | 1 Apr 2009 08:24
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Re: Flagged revs poll take 2

There is more to Wikipedia than BLP.

2009/3/31 doc <doc.wikipedia <at> ntlworld.com>:
> Your argument is spurious.
>
> It may well be that this proposal is the only one that would pass - but
> that neither means that it is good, nor that it is a good thing that it
> is passing.
>
> The proposal IMO is damaging to the cause of using flagged revisions in
> a manner that will help BLP victims.
>
> Doing nothing would be better than this.
>
> Your argument is the logical fallacy that because "something must be
> done" means "anything is better than the status quo", or that "any
> movement is a step in the right direction" - which does not consider
> that one can move, and move in the wrong direction.
>
>
> Andrew Turvey wrote:
>> And yet this poll seems to have significantly more support across the board than any other proposal that
has been put forward. If there's another way of taking it forward that would have sufficient support,
let's hear it.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "doc" <doc.wikipedia <at> ntlworld.com>
>> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l <at> lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Sent: Monday, 30 March, 2009 23:23:31 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal
>> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged revs poll take 2
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Elias Friedman | 1 Apr 2009 09:04
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Earth Deletion Discussion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Earth_(2nd_nomination)

And before anyone gets too outraged, do make note of today's date.

Elias Friedman A.S., EMT-P ⚕
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George Herbert | 1 Apr 2009 09:55
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Re: Earth Deletion Discussion

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Elias Friedman <elipongo <at> gmail.com> wrote:

>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Earth_(2nd_nomination)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Earth_%282nd_nomination%29>

I can't find a single reference on it which wasn't written by someone
involved in the project.

I mean, really, COI and NPOV problems don't come any more clearly
demonstrated than this.

Where are our reliable independent sources?

We have standards, people.

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geni | 1 Apr 2009 10:19
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Re: Earth Deletion Discussion

2009/4/1 Elias Friedman <elipongo <at> gmail.com>:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Earth_(2nd_nomination)
>
> And before anyone gets too outraged, do make note of today's date.

One of these days people will learn to be original.

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