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Magnus Manske | 1 May 2005 16:12
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Re: Critics & weak articles


BJörn Lindqvist schrieb:
>>Personally, all I really want out of a sifter-type process is "this has
>>been checked and is not blatantly vandalized or currently an active
>>battleground, and the spelling looks okay to me." IMO a sifter like this
>>would take a lot of stress off of editors who, rightly or wrongly, feel
> 
> 
> But we already have that! We have the NPOV warning, the Cleanup
> warning and two dozen more tags editors slap onto articles. It is only
> in a few areas that Wikipedia suffers - the articles about the
> Israeli-Palestinian conflict is particularily atrocious. But compare
> those articles against articles on the same subject in Britannica and
> you'll see that Wikipedia isn't any worse than it. Wikipedia is good
> enough as it is IMHO.
> 

Wikipedia is good, no doubt about that :-)

The (main) difference between a "sifter" function and warning templates
is that with the template system, the *absence* of a template means either
* this is OK
or
* noone saw this, or cared enough to put a warning tag there

A "sifter" (or as I call it, "validation") function allows to actively
mark a revision as "good" or "bad". Warning templates can only mark it
as "bad".

Magnus
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Jack Lutz | 1 May 2005 17:37
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Re: Critics & weak articles

How do validation ratings age and handle sudden, mass replacement of
content?
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David Gerard | 1 May 2005 18:39
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Re: Critics & weak articles

Jack Lutz (jack-lutz@...) [050502 01:37]:

> How do validation ratings age and handle sudden, mass replacement of
> content?

[[m:Article validation feature]]

(Is this running on Brion's test wiki?)

- d.
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Jack Lutz | 2 May 2005 00:40
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Re: Critics & weak articles


David Gerard wrote:

>Jack Lutz (jack-lutz@...) [050502 01:37]:
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>>How do validation ratings age and handle sudden, mass replacement of
>>content?
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>[[m:Article validation feature]]
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This is not covered on the Meta page.
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David Gerard | 2 May 2005 00:50
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Re: Critics & weak articles

Jack Lutz (jack-lutz@...) [050502 08:40]:
> David Gerard wrote:
> >Jack Lutz (jack-lutz@...) [050502 01:37]:

> >>How do validation ratings age and handle sudden, mass replacement of
> >>content?

> >[[m:Article validation feature]]

> This is not covered on the Meta page.

Sorry, the page does (or should) mention that the planned feature is to be
per revision, not per page - so sudden mass replacement of content creates
a new version, which gets a different rating.

(Expect vote spamming and calling out the vote on contentious articles and
voting teams on less popular articles.)

- d.
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geni | 2 May 2005 00:59
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Re: Critics & weak articles

On 5/1/05, David Gerard <fun@...> wrote:
> Jack Lutz (jack-lutz@...) [050502 08:40]:
> > David Gerard wrote:
> > >Jack Lutz (jack-lutz@...) [050502 01:37]:
> 
> > >>How do validation ratings age and handle sudden, mass replacement of
> > >>content?
> 
> > >[[m:Article validation feature]]
> 
> > This is not covered on the Meta page.
> 
> Sorry, the page does (or should) mention that the planned feature is to be
> per revision, not per page - so sudden mass replacement of content creates
> a new version, which gets a different rating.
> 
> (Expect vote spamming and calling out the vote on contentious articles and
> voting teams on less popular articles.)
> 
> 

Articles on schools are going to be fun.
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geni
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Wira Andrian | 2 May 2005 07:09
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database error

I've installed MediaWiki to use in my campus, and i've
got some problem here. When I edit and save the
content i've changed, there's an error appears
"Database Error - Internal error", but actually the
saving is succeed.
When I use search, the same error appears.
Anyone help please ^_^.

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Faraaz Damji | 2 May 2005 22:08

Re: database error


Wira Andrian wrote:
> I've installed MediaWiki to use in my campus, and i've
> got some problem here. When I edit and save the
> content i've changed, there's an error appears
> "Database Error - Internal error", but actually the
> saving is succeed.
> When I use search, the same error appears.

I think you should try MediaWiki-l
(http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l), which is aimed
at people who are running (or trying to run) MediaWiki.

This mailing list is specifically for the english Wikipedia, so most
people here aren't technically knowledgable about the software that runs
Wikipedia.

Hope you figure out how to fix your problem!

-Faraaz Damji
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David | 3 May 2005 00:42
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Re: Critics & weak articles

geni wrote:

>On 5/1/05, David Gerard <fun@...> wrote:
>  
>
>>Jack Lutz (jack-lutz@...) [050502 08:40]:
>>    
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>>>David Gerard wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Jack Lutz (jack-lutz@...) [050502 01:37]:
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>How do validation ratings age and handle sudden, mass replacement of
>>>>>content?
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>[[m:Article validation feature]]
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>This is not covered on the Meta page.
>>>      
>>>
>>Sorry, the page does (or should) mention that the planned feature is to be
>>per revision, not per page - so sudden mass replacement of content creates
>>a new version, which gets a different rating.
>>
>>(Expect vote spamming and calling out the vote on contentious articles and
>>voting teams on less popular articles.)
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Magnus Manske | 3 May 2005 16:53
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Re: Critics & weak articles

To clear this up: Currently,
* for each revision
* of each article,
* each user
can "rate" different properties.

Once MediaWiki 1.5 is released, Jimbo wants to run this for a while to 
gather data how people rate things, then we decide on a final (meaning: 
this week:-) schema to handle the ratings.

Magnus
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