doctorsculerati | 2 May 2007 00:10
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Newly Approved Articles

Citizendium's very first history articles have been approved!

Pittsburgh: History to 1800
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Pittsburgh%2C_History_to_1800
&
Pittsburgh:History since 1800
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Pittsburgh%2C_History_since_1800

Congratulations to tthe History Workgroup!!
The Mathematics Workgroup has nominated for approval:

Prime number 
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Prime_number
&
Complex number  
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Complex_number

For news on Approved Articles: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Approval_Announcements

Nancy Sculerati
Approvals Management Editor
Badgett, Robert G | 4 May 2007 19:08
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Internet browser search plugin for CZ

I did not see that CZ already had an Internet browser search plugin, so I made one which you can install from:

 

http://medinformatics.uthscsa.edu/searchplugins/

 

Works on Firefox 2 and Internet Explorer 7. Saves time.

 

Bob

 

 

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Larry Sanger | 4 May 2007 19:31

Re: Internet browser search plugin for CZ

Very handy!  Thanks, Bob!
 
--Larry
 
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Subject: [Citizendium-l] Internet browser search plugin for CZ

I did not see that CZ already had an Internet browser search plugin, so I made one which you can install from:

 

http://medinformatics.uthscsa.edu/searchplugins/

 

Works on Firefox 2 and Internet Explorer 7. Saves time.

 

Bob

 

 

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Nancy SCULERATI-SANES | 8 May 2007 22:37
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Citizendium:New Approvals!

The big news this Tuesday is our 2 newly approved articles: Complex number and Prime number. These are the
first mathematics articles ever nominated for approval!
To read them:

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Complex_number
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Prime_number

The lead article in the Literature group has been nominated for approval:
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Literature

as has the Media article:
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Telephone_Newspaper

Your opinion on the talk and draft pages of these articles is sought. 
For more about new approvals see:http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Approval_Announcements
A. Stos | 11 May 2007 00:12
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stats again

What can numbers  tell us about CZ after the launch?
Here are some selected categories, as of 14th April (first time I did the 'accountancy') and 8th May.

Mainspace text pages = 2071 -> 2616
Number of redirects  =  1173 -> 1504
Disambig pages       = 22 -> 30
Articles (=textpages-disambig)   = 2049 -> 2586
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CZ_Live              = 1387 -> 1757
Checklisted_Articles = 1238 -> 1900
Internal_Articles    = 876 -> 1398
External_Articles    = 361 -> 503
Stub_Articles        = 223 -> 305
Developing_Articles  = 383 -> 624
Developed_Articles   = 262 -> 457
Approved_Articles    = 11 -> 17

Remarks
* In view of the number of Checklisted Articles, the Big Cleanup is a big success. For example, the difference between Internal Articles and CZ-Live category decreases (they have more or less the same scope). Still, there is some Cleanup to do. And, since we are growing, there will always be :-)  Now, we have quite many  Internal Articles, more  Developed Articles than stubs(!), not so many  External ones. IMHO, ideally, the absolute number of  the Externals should be more or less constant or even decrease with time (it still grows, while the proportion External/Checklisted slightly decreased).
* For a relatively long time there were 11 Approved articles. In last three weeks this has significantly changed.

How about the human resources we have?
Here is a picture (to be shown correctly a fixed width font is needed)

year and|this month|   users     |new    | authors|  backward   |  longterm
month   | users    | > 20 : >100 |authors| daily  |  2 months   |  6 months
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2006-10 |     52   |    8 :    2 |   52  |   10   |    0   0.0% |    0   0.0%
2006-11 |    183   |   41 :   12 |  143  |   24   |    0   0.0% |    0   0.0%
2006-12 |    120   |   28 :   12 |   49  |   17   |   29  24.2% |    0   0.0%
2007-01 |    350   |   43 :   15 |  280  |   29   |   43  12.3% |    0   0.0%
2007-02 |    801   |   85 :   25 |  678  |   62   |   47   5.9% |    0   0.0%
2007-03 |    348   |   76 :   23 |  208  |   38   |   62  17.8% |    0   0.0%
2007-04 |    395   |  111 :   45 |  180  |   63   |   77  19.5% |   19   4.8%
description:
* this month users: number of users who have at least 1 edit in the month; in the next column there are 'active' ('very active') users with more than 20 (100) edits in the month
*authors daily = average number of interacting authors (editing the same day)
*new user is detected when he makes his first edit (so the number may differ from that of new userpages)
*backward = how many of users editing in month n had been there in months n-1 and n-2
*longterm = backward 6 months, without break

Remarks:
*  February was particular as for number of users. This can be related to slashdot reports and the automatic registration.  Clearly,  many of  automatically registered users  were just watching CZ, as the proportion of active users of February is about 10% while in April  it's 28%.
* "authors daily" column seems to be interesting, as it measures somehow the 'human resources' and how  'vibrating' the community is. Note that this is not  the number of all users of this month divided  by number of days; it's the actual (average) number of  editing users. For example, as of April, you could meet about 63 authors each day. We can also observe that after the launch you could meet as many CZ authors in one day as in February (or in  the self-registration period).
* Columns "backward" and "longterm" are not very meaningful for CZ at this stage, but maybe at some point they will be. They are meant to measure the 'human resources rotation' and 'stability'  of the wiki.

In terms of number of edits, after the launch CZ was significantly more active (see e.g. double activity in the mainspace)

 month  | total edits |   main*   | act*  |new pages
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2006-10 |        1218 |       948 |  23.4 |    131
2006-11 |        5576 |      2968 |  30.5 |   1183
2006-12 |        8291 |      5929 |  69.1 |   1726
2007-01 |        8819 |      4428 |  25.2 |   1545
2007-02 |       16560 |      5654 |  20.7 |   4276
2007-03 |       15526 |      6369 |  44.6 |   3159
2007-04 |       26914 |     13333 |  68.1 |   3846
* main = number of edits in the mainspace
* act = mean 'activity', i.e. edits per user

Remarks
* In April there was nearly 900 edits per day, on average (all namespaces)
* new pages include redirects and pages from all namespaces. This explains somewhat why there were so many  "new pages" in February (think about new userpages and talks only).
* a few timestamps in the database are prior to 2006-10 (hence adjusted to 2006-10).

Can we reasonably compare our 'human resources' and editing activity to the English Wikipedia? Of course not. But maybe it is interesting to see that CZ is comparable to some smaller, still big and active wikis.
To this end suppose that we count only the registered users. This seems reasonable, since 'annonymous' IP, while numerous when compared to the registered users, do not make many edits (globally 8-15%, depending on the wiki). Consider also that rarely the same IP makes more than few edits. So 'annons' do not add that much to the community, just bring some usually unreliable/unsourced information, if not vandalisms, to be verified by regular users (e.g. adding those anons who are  are "more-than-20-edits-active" wouldn't really change the picture).

Then we compare CZ to lt.wikipedia (Lithuanian), considering that the latter is listed on the English WP Main Page as one of  more significant, i.e. in the category  "more than 25K entries" (about 44K, in fact).
As of April 2007, CZ had a bit more editing users (395 vs 338), active users (111 vs. 93), more very active users (45 vs. 43, "bots" included), new users (180 vs. 142), users daily (63 vs 53). Interestingly, users of ltwiki are exceptionally active (systematically more than 100 edits in month per user, far above the average for wikis I analyzed; a typical activity is  50-60 edits per user). In April there were  5378 new pages on ltwiki (vs 3846 on CZ).
If we look at wikis from the category "more than 50K entries" (11 members), then CZ is still of the same "order of magnitude" but generally much smaller. For example, on huwiki (Hungarian, probably the smallest in the category, 58K entries) there were  1078 users editing in April, 291 active users, 143 very acitve, 444 new users, 173 users daily (on average) and about 9800 new pages.
And here are the numbers for nowiki (Norwegian) from "more than 100K entries" category. Unfortunately, it comes from March 2007, since there were no dump file for April available. There were 2439 editing users, 343 active, 152 very active users, 1259 new users, 249 users daily, 12626 new pages.

That  said, I do not think that making CZ-WP comparison in terms of quantity is very relevant at least at the present stage. Clearly, CZ encourages different working style and priorities that do not  easily translate into stats or make "counters" turn more slowly (e.g. accent on quality/reliability, narrative/introductory style, not creating stubs without clear intent to develop them etc.). I guess CZ will always be different. Now, I made a quantitative comparison just to test the hypothesis (or not-so-rare suggestion) that CZ  is likely to ' re-create the failure of Nupedia'. Clearly, the numbers tell us that CZ will (probably) succeed.

Alex.

PS. Any technical details (data sources, scripts, more detailed discussion of methods and results etc.) on request.

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Larry Sanger | 14 May 2007 21:38

Question for the community

Should talk pages appear in Google search results?

http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,934.0.html

--Larry
Larry Sanger | 15 May 2007 01:29

Checklist on sidebar, Big Cleanup almost finished!

I've put [[Template:Checklist blank]]

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Template:Checklist_blank

on the wiki's sidebar (second from the bottom under "project pages"). Now
the blank checklist is easy to find and you have no excuse not to put it on
new articles you start!

We are getting close to finishing The Big Cleanup.  It's pretty much down to
the Bs, Ls, and Ss.  We could finish within the next few days.  Just look at
the signup list--it's amazing how much work we've done:

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:The_Big_Cleanup/Signup

I think dozens of people have done work, but Petréa Mitchell must have won
the prize for the most "Cleaning."  David Martin and Joe Quick have done a
lot as well.  Thanks hugely, folks!

And then, to see the *value* of all that work, look at this:

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Category:Checklisted_Articles

And see, for example, the links after "Checklist-generated categories" on
these pages:

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Biology_Workgroup
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:History_Workgroup
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Computers_Workgroup

What's perhaps most to be celebrated is the fact that the "recent changes"
links for the various workgroups now actually *work*, because most articles
in CZ are listed 

--Larry
Larry Sanger | 15 May 2007 01:31

Shop online, support Citizendium

Want a book, game, or other merchandise of a sort that you buy online?
Then, if you get it from Amazon or Barnes & Noble, please order it through
us!

See: http://tinyurl.com/29p9on

We get 6% of the price you pay--and that adds up!

Let's give credit where it's due, Nancy Sculerati, Kelly Patterson, and
Jason Potkanski have set up affiliate programs with Amazon and Barnes &
Noble, and have been at work on various aspects of our fundraising efforts.
Thanks!

Already, 14 items have been ordered and 8 items shipped from Amazon, which
has raised our referral rate (i.e., the percentage of the price you pay that
we receive) from 4% to 6%.  We've actually received some money already, and
we're very glad to have it.  We'll announce a dollar amount when we get into
four figures.   

With luck, we'll have even more fundraising news to announce soon.

--Larry
Larry Sanger | 15 May 2007 18:40

Want feedback on an article?

Have an article that you'd like feedback on?  Have you been hard at work on
an article, with nobody to help?  Simply list the article here 

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Feedback_Requests

and sign your request. Others will be clued in to which articles need their
help.

--Larry
Nancy SCULERATI-SANES | 15 May 2007 20:37
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New Approvals at Citizendium

Two newly approved articles have just been announced:

Literature, the lead article for the Literature workgroup- http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Literature

and 

Telephone newspaper, the first approved article in the Media Workgroup -http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Telephone_Newspaper

Congratulations all concerned! 

Gmane