Chris Calloway | 30 May 20:54

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Chris Calloway | 20 Jul 23:49

White paper draft published to site

The draft white paper for this team has been published to:

http://seacoos.org/teams/response-circulation/

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Harvey Seim | 20 Jul 16:13

Re: [Fwd: SEACOOS White Paper for Marine Emergency Management Applications Team]

Chris - I like the white paper, seems like an appropriate strawman. 
Some comments:

2nd paragraph, intro: you discuss how environmental information is most 
useful presented, but isn't this something the responsible agencies do 
for themselves?  Rather that develop the final product, aren't we 
(speaking as the regional effort) aiming to augment the data flow into 
their applications?  Just want to make sure we understand how best to 
help, and that we don't give the impression that we feel we should be 
taking over this responsibility.

5th paragraph, intro: why single out NCOM?  Given the general nature of 
the discussion, might it be better to remove this phrase.  Or try to 
list all available models?

disc: I find this to be a mix of current status and longer-term vision. 
  It might be best to clearly identify assets available now or in the 
near-term that can be drawn upon soon, and those activities that will 
require significant new money and resources.

plan of action: sounds like we have some notion of how best to deliver 
information to NOAA/HAZMAT- include details?  Also, from the education 
side, there is significant interest in developing a web-based tool for 
trajectory estimation that could/should be included.

Harvey

Christopher N. K. Mooers wrote:

> Dear Colleagues - See the attached. - Cheers, Chris
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Lundie Spence | 15 Jul 21:14

teams comment

From an education perspective, I like the team approach as I envision this as
the topic of the year (or two year) in which the research, extension and
education focus on a specific topic.   For example, I look forward to the
search and research effort combining with the circulation models so that next
year we can develop an appropriate awareness poster for the region and also
have the group feed ideas to the educators about inquiry lessons.   We are
testing this idea with small groups of teachers and researchers this year and
finding some success.  This type of directed discussion and action makes the
time involved have distinct and measureable products.

L

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Weisberg [mailto:weisberg <at> marine.usf.edu] 
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:51 PM
To: SEACOOS Ocean Circulation effect on Emergency Response Team
Cc: Harvey Seim; Cisco Werner; Robert Weisberg; Dr. Madilyn Fletcher; Jim
Nelson; Robert Bacon; Mooers, Christopher
Subject: Re: [seacoos-team-response-circulation] [Fwd: SEACOOS White Paper
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Bob Weisberg | 15 Jul 19:51

Re: [Fwd: SEACOOS White Paper for Marine Emergency Management Applications Team]

Chris,
   While I agree that perhaps not enough thought went into the initial 
organization, and I also admit that I was originally nonplused by the 
Teams concept (I was afraid of one more level of work leading nowhere - 
so I am taking no credit whatsoever for the Teams concept), I must say 
that now I am firmly behind it, with a caveat, of course.  If we limit 
each team to an enumerated set of topics on which we can indeed perform, 
then each Team may potentially overcome the cultural barriers and 
advance the way in which academics, government and private sector groups 
engage.  If we make the Teams too broad then we will have neither the 
energy nor the personnel to perform well enough.  So in that sense we 
could reorganize and expand, but I would prefer to use the workshop to 
cull what we have down to a mutually agreeable set of topics within 
three teams (waves, fisheries, SAR, or however we want to reword these) 
and attempt to do good work on a limited few foci.
   I believe that we are saying similar things.  It then becomes the 
choice of what we think we want to work on (and no one is limited to 
just working on a specific Team topic).  From the various discussions 
that I've had I do think that fisheries provides a strategic, stand 
alone focus even though its P.O. needs (Eulerian and Lagrangian 
circulation) complement those of the other teams.
   In summary, while COOS must be all things to all OceanUS enumerated 
issues, the SEACOOS Teams, in my opinion, should focus in on a small 
subset of these issues (our Teams preamble should be broad, but our 
initial application should be narrow).  If we do this well then we will 
have set a template for how to tackle other issues in a 
multidisciplinary, multiagency way.
   It will be difficult to come to a limited number of topics, and these 
may vary between subregions, but I think it will be worth the effort.
Bob
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Re: [Fwd: SEACOOS White Paper for Marine Emergency Management Applications Team]

Bob - I think we need to re-examine the organization of our application 
teams; they were originated without a lot of forethought. For example, 
to have a "waves team" is like having a "currents team" or a "T/S team". 
Also, much of the Lagrangian info needed for spills & SAR and for 
fisheries is in common. Maybe we need an "integrated sea level      
(storm surge, tides, and waves) team", a "drift and dispersion 
(Lagrangian)  team", and an "offshore operations and habitat (Eulerian) 
team". It would also be good to re-analyze the categorical needs of our 
user communities from the practical perspective of organization and 
communications. Some of this will be made a lot clearer when we meet our 
non-academic partners. - Chris

Bob Weisberg wrote:

>Chris,
>   Good stuff.  Here are few few more comments.
>Bob
>
>Christopher N. K. Mooers wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Dear Colleagues - See the attached. - Cheers, Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>Subject:
>>SEACOOS White Paper for Marine Emergency Management Applications Team
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Bob Weisberg | 15 Jul 17:58

Re: [Fwd: SEACOOS White Paper for Marine Emergency Management Applications Team]

Chris,
   Good stuff.  Here are few few more comments.
Bob

Christopher N. K. Mooers wrote:

> Dear Colleagues - See the attached. - Cheers, Chris
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject:
> SEACOOS White Paper for Marine Emergency Management Applications Team
> From:
> "Christopher N. K. Mooers" <cmooers <at> rsmas.miami.edu>
> Date:
> Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:22:56 -0400
> To:
> Harvey Seim <hseim <at> email.unc.edu>, Cisco Werner <cisco <at> email.unc.edu>, 
> Robert Weisberg <weisberg <at> seas.marine.usf.edu>, "Dr. Madilyn Fletcher" 
> <fletcher <at> biol.sc.edu>, Jim Nelson <nelson <at> skio.peachnet.edu>, Bob Bacon 
> <robert.bacon <at> scseagrant.org>, "Mooers, Christopher" 
> <cmooers <at> rsmas.miami.edu>
> 
> 
> Dear Colleagues - Madilyn in particular requested to see the latest 
> edition of subject white paper.---Cisco & Co., when you figure out the 
> list serve connection, please forward to my team. I tried earlier this 
> week and received no response.--- There are other important points I 
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[Fwd: SEACOOS White Paper for Marine Emergency Management Applications Team]

Dear Colleagues - See the attached. - Cheers, Chris

-- 
Professor Christopher N. K. Mooers,Director
Ocean Prediction Experimental Laboratory (OPEL)
Division of Applied Marine Physics (AMP)
Rosenstiel School of of Marine and Atmospheric Science (RSMAS)
University of Miami (Univ. Miami)
4600 Rickenbacker Causeway (Cswy.)
Miami, FL 33149-1098
USA

O: 305-421-4088,4160
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From: Christopher N. K. Mooers <cmooers <at> rsmas.miami.edu>
Subject: SEACOOS White Paper for Marine Emergency Management Applications Team
Date: 2005-07-15 03:22:56 GMT
Dear Colleagues - Madilyn in particular requested to see the latest 
edition of subject white paper.---Cisco & Co., when you figure out the 
list serve connection, please forward to my team. I tried earlier this 
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Bob Weisberg | 12 Jul 17:04

Re: SEACOOS MEM White Paper and its SAR Appendix (11 JUL 05)

Chris and Team members,
   Attached are some quick comments on the two documents.  My main 
point, I think, is that if we are to engage in any area of societal 
importance then we must recognize that we are intruding on someone's 
purvue, be that someone NOAA, CG, local emergency managers, FEMA, EPA or 
whomever.  So the trick will be how to do this constructively.  If we 
cannot do this then we cannot be in COOS.  It has taken the Teams 
concept to really bring this to light so how we approach the Teams 
activities will greatly influence the course of academic involvement in 
COOS.
Bob

Christopher N. K. Mooers wrote:

> Dear Colleagues (whoever you may be) - Attached are two items for your 
> consideration. We want to evolve said items further prior to the 
> upcoming SEACOOS Workshop, so your thoughtful comments are welcome --- 
> the sooner the better so I can have some reaction time. We will be 
> seeking input from a broader group, too. - Cheers, Chris Mooers
> 

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SEACOOS MEM White Paper and its SAR Appendix (11 JUL 05)

Dear Colleagues (whoever you may be) - Attached are two items for your 
consideration. We want to evolve said items further prior to the 
upcoming SEACOOS Workshop, so your thoughtful comments are welcome --- 
the sooner the better so I can have some reaction time. We will be 
seeking input from a broader group, too. - Cheers, Chris Mooers

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Professor Christopher N. K. Mooers,Director
Ocean Prediction Experimental Laboratory (OPEL)
Division of Applied Marine Physics (AMP)
Rosenstiel School of of Marine and Atmospheric Science (RSMAS)
University of Miami (Univ. Miami)
4600 Rickenbacker Causeway (Cswy.)
Miami, FL 33149-1098
USA

O: 305-421-4088,4160
F: 305-421-4701
I: cmooers <at> rsmas.miami.edu

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Bob Weisberg | 24 Jun 18:44

Re: SEACOOS team on S&R

All,
   I added a few thoughts (with track changes) as attached.  I beliee 
that we can use this same doucumetn to address harmful spills since the 
same information are needed.  What wouold have to be added is a 
paragraph giving the contacts and line o authority for harmful spills. 
There are both national lines of communication and state and local 
lines.  I will make some inquires as regards the local lines here.
Bob

Harvey Seim wrote:

> All - below is an attempt to initiate discussion on a SEACOOS connection to SAR activities.  PLEASE READ AND
COMMENT - the workshop is a month away!
> 
> Also, we need something similar on spill response - any volunteers?  
> 
> Harvey
> 
> SEARCH and RESCUE information			
> (HS, 6/22/05)
> 
> 
> What are the coastal ocean/atmosphere information needs to support 
> this application?
> 
> For maritime SAR, information on drift path, sea state and temperature are critical.  Ideally drift is
directly measured with a beacon, but when not, is estimated from currents, winds and directional waves
given some characterization of the drifter (e.g. human or vessel, windage, etc).   Sea state is wave field
(height and period or spectrum), and sea and wind temperature are important when a person is at risk.
> 
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