headers
Amtoine Grant | 1 Sep 2004 01:16
Picon
Favicon

Feathered Dinosaurs poster

I just found this lovely poster with illustrations and info on 
feathered dinos, complete with a did T. rex have feathers caption t the 
bottom. See it yourself at 
http://www.feenixx.com/prehistoric/Feathered_dinosaurs.htm. My question 
is, does anybody here know when/how to buy it?
Permalink | Reply | 5 comments |
headers
Biostrat | 1 Sep 2004 01:25

Re: Feathered Dinosaurs poster

It says you can download a PDF of the draft.
Interesting - several of those illustrations have a very "Luis Rey" 
look to them - are they? There is no artist credit with the web page.

DB

>I just found this lovely poster with illustrations and info on 
>feathered dinos, complete with a did T. rex have feathers caption t 
>the bottom. See it yourself at 
>http://www.feenixx.com/prehistoric/Feathered_dinosaurs.htm. My 
>question is, does anybody here know when/how to buy it?
Permalink | Reply | 2 comments |
headers
Mickey Mortimer | 1 Sep 2004 02:16
Picon
Favicon

Re: Senter et al. 2004 impressions

T. Michael Keesey wrote-

> > Accordingly, phylogenetic bracketing woud require that _Deinocheirus_
had an
> > arctometatarsalian pes, or secondarily lost it.  Interestingly, under
this
> > phylogeny both _Deinocheirus_ and alvarezsaurids belong to an expanded
> > Bullatosauria.
>
> Since _Deinocheirus_ has long been thought to be an ornithomimosaur, it
was
> supposed to have an arctometatarsalian pes (or reversal from that state,
as you
> say) anyway, and would also have been included under _Bullatosauria_ in
> phylogenies where the clade was not equivalent to _Maniraptoriformes_.

Indeed.  In addition, since Alvarezsaurus, Patagonykus, Harpymimus and
"Grusimimus/Tsurumimus" aren't arctometatarsalian, Deinocheirus would
optimize as non-arctometatarsalian too.  Once I add my extra 200+ pectoral
and appendicular characters... in a couple months or so, hopefully
Deinocheirus' position will stabilize in my trees.

Mickey Mortimer
Undergraduate, Earth and Space Sciences
University of Washington
The Theropod Database - http://students.washington.edu/eoraptor/Home.html
Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Christopher Taylor | 1 Sep 2004 02:29
Picon
Picon
Favicon

Ichthyornis paper

Just out:

Clarke, J. A. 2004. Morphology, phylogenetic taxonomy, and systematics of
Ichthyornis and Apatornis (Avialae: Ornithurae). Bulletin of the American
Museum of Natural History 286: 1-179.

    "Charles Darwin commented that Ichthyornis, as one of the ³toothed
birds² from the Late Cretaceous of Kansas, offered some of ³the best support
to the theory of evolution² (in litt., C. Darwin to O.C. Marsh, August 31,
1880). Ichthyornis figures no less prominently today. It is one of the
closest outgroups to crown clade Aves, and remains one of the only Mesozoic
avialans known from more than a handful of specimens. As such, Ichthyornis
is an essential taxon for analyses of deep divergences within Aves because
of its influence in determining the morphologies ancestral to the crown
clade.
Ichthyornis, however, has languished in need of new anatomical description
and taxonomic revision. Many of the best Ichthyornis specimens were largely
inaccessible, plastered into Yale Peabody Museum (YPM) exhibit mounts for
nearly a century. The focus of this study was the entire YPM Ichthyornis
collection, the largest at any institution.
The elements removed from the mounts were identified to the specimens with
which they were originally associated. Detailed morphological study of the
81 YPM specimens yielded the following results: (1) there is evidence for
only one species of Ichthyornis, rather than the eight previously proposed;
(2) 78 specimens are part of this species, Ichthyornis dispar; (3) two
previously identified species are not part of Ichthyornis; and (4) one new
species is identified. This analysis also provided a case study in the
application of phylogenetic nomenclature at the species level. The
morphology of Ichthyornis dispar is described in detail from the holotype
and referred specimens.
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 3 comments |
headers
Dora Smith | 1 Sep 2004 07:06
Picon

Re: Feathered Dinosaurs poster

I just checked it out; boy, I'd sure like to buy one!   But it says it's a
draft of something that is under development - and it doesn't even specify
where to send comments!

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, Texas
villandra <at> austin.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amtoine Grant" <ajgrant <at> eastlink.ca>
To: <dinosaur <at> usc.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 6:16 PM
Subject: Feathered Dinosaurs poster

> I just found this lovely poster with illustrations and info on
> feathered dinos, complete with a did T. rex have feathers caption t the
> bottom. See it yourself at
> http://www.feenixx.com/prehistoric/Feathered_dinosaurs.htm. My question
> is, does anybody here know when/how to buy it?
>
Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Dora Smith | 1 Sep 2004 07:11
Picon

Re: Feathered Dinosaurs poster

He's right; you can print out the pdf file.

If your printer doesn't have the ability to do that, a print shop will print
it for you from the pdf file.   That big chain of them what'stheirname.

When I have some money it's off to the print shop I go.

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, Texas
villandra <at> austin.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amtoine Grant" <ajgrant <at> eastlink.ca>
To: <dinosaur <at> usc.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 6:16 PM
Subject: Feathered Dinosaurs poster

> I just found this lovely poster with illustrations and info on
> feathered dinos, complete with a did T. rex have feathers caption t the
> bottom. See it yourself at
> http://www.feenixx.com/prehistoric/Feathered_dinosaurs.htm. My question
> is, does anybody here know when/how to buy it?
>
Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Mickey Rowe | 1 Sep 2004 09:01
Picon
Favicon

Dinosaur List Administrative Message

This file was last touched July 1st, 2004.

// If you're new... we have implemented a filter designed to block all
// MIME or html coded portions of messages.  We had to do this to
// prevent viruses from circulating through the list.  In order for
// your messages to reach everyone, and more importantly in order for
// your messages to appear in the archive, you *MUST* send them as
// plain text only.  If you have any doubts about whether or not you
// are doing this, please check the archives to see how your messages
// are appearing.  If you do not know how to format your mail as plain
// text only, please see: http://www.expita.com/nomime.html
//
// As always, comments on policy are welcomed as long as they are made
// to the list-owners and not to the list. -- MPR

Rather than sending the whole long administrative message each month
I'm going to give you only the table of contents and the two sections
that I expect to be the most popular.  If you wish to see the entire
document you can visit it at any time at:

http://www.dinosaurmailinglist.org

-------------------------

Contents:

1.  How to unsubscribe
2.  How to subscribe
3.  How to receive the list as a digest
4.  How to access the archives
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Mickey Mortimer | 1 Sep 2004 09:16
Picon
Favicon

Re: Ichthyornis paper

Excellent.  I like the GSP illustrations.  Goodbye Ornithurae OTU, hello
Ichthyornis and Hesperornithes OTU's.  Unfortunate that Clarke cut the
character discussions and inclusion of Songlingornis, Gansus and Chaoyangia
from her analysis though (compared to her dissertation).  Perhaps those are
waiting for the Yixianornis paper suggested by her SVP presentation.
Evidence of Gansus' prior inclusion was not completely erased though, as
seen on page 26- "However, because this optimization is currently ambiguous
(due to missing data in Limenavis patagonica and Gansus yumenensis..." :)

Also, note the phylogenetic definition for several clades-

Hesperornithes Furbringer, 1888 - (Hesperornis regalis <- Aves)
Eat that, Hesperornithiformes!

Hesperornithidae Marsh, 1872 - (Hesperornis regalis <-Baptornis advenus)

Ichthyornithes Marsh, 1873 - (YPM 1450 <- Aves)

Ichthyornis Marsh, 1872 - clade stemming from an ancestor that possessed all
of the morphologies described by apomorphies 2, 5, 6, 7, 8 (in the
Ichthyornis dispar Diagnosis) homologous (sensu Patterson, 1982) with those
in YPM 1450 (holotype of Ichthyornis dispar Marsh, 1872b) and more closely
related to YPM 1450 than to Aves (internal specifiers of Gauthier and de
Queiroz, 2001; see Introduction).
Oy.

dispar Marsh, 1872 - the species that includes YPM 1450.

Guildavis Clarke 2004 - (YPM 1760 <- Ichthyornis dispar, Vultur gryphus,
Struthio camelus, Tetrao major, Vultur gryphus [yes, again])
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 1 comment |
headers
Christopher Collinson | 1 Sep 2004 10:09

Re: Feathered Dinosaurs poster

The artist responsible for the majority of the work is actually Gabriel Lio.
He has a gallery at the Dinosauricon:
http://dino.lm.com/artists/display.php?name=baryonychinae
The feathered baby T. rex at the bottom of the poster is Mike Skrepnick's.

Cheers,
Christopher

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carly" <pinkgodzilla <at> comcast.net>
To: <dinobabe <at> 180com.net>
Cc: <dinosaur <at> usc.edu>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Feathered Dinosaurs poster

>
> On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, at 07:25 PM, Biostrat wrote:
>
> > It says you can download a PDF of the draft.
> > Interesting - several of those illustrations have a very "Luis Rey"
> > look to them - are they? There is no artist credit with the web page.
>
> Looks more similar to Steve White's stuff
> (http://thunderlizard.gn.apc.org/prehist.html) to me, though not
> quite... Dang great poster though, whoever it's illustrated by! Gotta
> get my hands on one.
>
> ~Carly
>
> ===========================
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Zeljko Hanich | 1 Sep 2004 11:50
Picon

F/S: Glut 4 books set - Dinosaurs: The Encyclopedia + Suppl. I, II & III

Hello, 

I hope you do not mind. 
I would like to offer for sale the following set of books :

Author Donald F. Glut 4 books set :

- Dinosaurs: The Encyclopedia 
- Supplement No.1
- Supplement No.2
- Supplement No.3

All books are new, mint condition ! 

I ask $295.00 + shipping (regular Barnes & Noble retail 
price for all four books is $470.00). 

I prefer to sell those books as a set, but I will be glad 
to make a deal if I find individual buyers for each books 
separately.    

If anyone is interested, please, contact me directly 
at my e-mail address:   

hanich <at> zg.htnet.hr  

Best regards, 
Zac
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |

Gmane