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Roger Smith | 1 Mar 2003 04:19
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Dino Drinking Riddle * Learn From The Cretaceous Ecology * B.C. Museums Dig Up Dinosaurs * Earliest T-Rex fossil identified

Welcome to this edition of  DINOSAURNEWS.

Last year we brought you 740 dinosaur stories of international interest -
this year we'll bring you 750 more!

For the full story visit the NEWS section of the FREE webzine at this
address: http://www.dinosaurnews.org

The headlines:

**  Solving the riddle of what the dino saw and where it drank
In the same way, dinosaurs that slurped from the swamp laid eggs that were
distinct from those laid by dinosaurs that sipped from a sparkling spring

**  Children's Museum Gets Ready for Dinosaurs
A paleo expert and hairdresser to stars like Olivia Newton John and Clint
Eastwood, Lanzendorf has been collecting since the age of 12

**  Learn From The Cretaceous Ecology Or Be Doomed To Repeat It
Only 21 percent of species made it across the K-T boundary, and only 11
species originate in the Paleocene indicating the recovery was not immediate

**  B.C. museums dig up dinosaurs from around the globe
For years researchers here have been chipping away at limestone and shale,
looking for evidence of creatures that lived during the Mesozoic Era, the
mid-life measure comprising the Triassic, Jurassic and Cretaceous periods:
the age of the dinosaurs
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Nick Gardner | 1 Mar 2003 18:22
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Re: New Photos

Re: An unidentified Jehol maniraptor

What the heck is that thing?  It looks like it has co-ossified sternal 
plates, a very sharp skull profile (kind of like a troodontid or an 
ornithomimosaur?)... but for some reason, it looks avialan.  Neat though.

Re: cf. Sinornithosaurus

I think I've seen this one before.  HP Headden commented to me offlist that 
it looks a little like Microraptor.  It does look like a deinonychosaur at 
least. :-)

Nick Gardner

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Roxton | 2 Mar 2003 03:30
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Luis Rey's email address

Excuse me for this message but emails bounce at the address listed in Luis Rey's site. Any alternatives?

Thanks,

Roxton
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HPB1956 | 2 Mar 2003 16:44
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From Wuppertal to London (Jehol fossils)

Dear list members,

last year I went to the the Fuhlrott Museum in Wuppertal/Germany. There was an exhibition called "Fossil
Treasures From China". It included among other fossils the original holotype of Sinosauropteryx. A
fantastic time for me to see these Jehol fossils.

Now it’s time again to meet Sinosauropteryx :-). If all goes well I’ll visit the National History
Museum and it’s current exhibition “Dino-birds: From Dinosaurs to Birds”. Next Saturday
(03/08/2003) I’ll fly to London and stay for 4 days.

So any tips regarding this exhibition or other displayed fossils at the NHM? Is somebody of the DML there to
meet? Anything I am able to do at the NMH to help a list member (again)?

Cheers

Heinz Peter Bredow
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Tetanurae | 2 Mar 2003 18:43
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Re: Hairy Hypsilophodontids

In a message dated 02/28/2003 1:12:21 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
mightyodinn <at> yahoo.com writes:

> <<Note that the former would generally be considered non-monophyletic 
> nowadays,
> as it lacks ornithopods. The latter is a pretty bad name, since it includes 
> no
> ornithopods. I don't know if these taxa were rigorously defined or not; I'm
> going by Pete's, er, HP Buchholz's summary here:
> http://www.cmnh.org/dinoarch/1997Aug/msg00267.html>>

The names were not defined by Cooper in 1985.  If I recall correctly, Sereno 
didn't define his names from the 1986 paper until 1997 or so, as it wasn't 
really common practice back in the "early days" of cladistic research.

For what it's worth, Sereno's application of Neornithischia (which IMHO is a 
bad idea) is for the stem {_Triceratops_ <-- _Ankylosaurus_}.  The node 
{_Triceratops_ + _Iguanodon_} is unnamed as of yet, and IMHO the application 
of the name Cerapoda for this group is entirely justified because that's what 
most people thought Ceraopoda was anyway....

Pete Buchholz
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Nick Gardner | 2 Mar 2003 19:00
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Ossified tendon lattices in ornithischians


Hello all!  Now, taking a dramatic jump through the cladograms, I now turn 
from coelurosaurs to ornithischians to delve into their anatomy, because I 
think that these are cool, as I do coelurosaurs, but I know jack about 
ornithischians! :-)

Er... now assuming a much, much more serious nature which may be good thing, 
because I doubt anyone will appreciate having wierd jokes mixed all 
throughout this post.

-- The separation between humor and seriousness starts now --

(Cough)

I am overviewing the interrelationships of certain ornithischians and 
preparing a data matrix.  The best of my current resources, IMHO, is Norman 
1990.  This has more data than any of my other ornithischian refs.  I was 
writing out characters from his "Comments upon iguanodontian systematics" 
section and I noticed he uses "rhomboidal lattice of ossified tendons" as a 
unsubstantiated character supporting the unity of *Iguanodon*, 
*Ouranosaurus*, *Probactrosaurus*, and Hadrosauridae.  He also comments that 
the character is size related.

My personal observations from reading the literature, looking over 
photographs, and my photographs from the Carnegie displays seem to provide a 
confusing situation.  Some taxa have these structures over just their 
dorsals and sacrals (ceratopsians, heterodontosaurids), others have them 
across their posterior dorsals, sacrals and anterior caudals (hadrosaurids, 
Iguanodon, Ouranosaurus), and others have their distal tails engulfed in 
them, with smaller structures across their dorsals, sacrals, and anterior
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MKIRKALDY | 2 Mar 2003 19:00
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John Lanzendorf's collection of dinosaur imagery

In his DINOSAURNEWS post of February 28, jollyroger <at> wave.co.nz wrote:

< **  Children's Museum Gets Ready for Dinosaurs  A paleo expert and 
hairdresser to stars like Olivia Newton John and Clint Eastwood, Lanzendorf 
has been collecting since the age of 12  >

The article at:
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1156585&nav=0Ra7EIDl
talks about the arrival of John Lanzendorf's collection of paintings, 
sculptures, and all that depicts dinosaurs at the Children's Museum of 
Indianapolis.  More than one of us was very surprised last October when 
almost all of John's collection was acquired by the museum.  I'm sure that he 
misses the collection, but it has a home that is planning to showcase it 
their new Dinosphere, which will open in 2004.  

Wouldn't it be great to have a dinosaur symposium there in conjunction with 
the opening?

Mary
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ekaterina A | 2 Mar 2003 23:04
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Tanycolagreus topwilsoni

Is Tanycolagreus different from Coelurus or is it just
a coloquial name for the same. The pictures of it
available on the web including Robert Gay's site seem
look just like the skeletal depictions of Coelurus. Of
course one cannot judge by photos but I was unable to
find any citation for Tanycolagreus and Dinogeorge
lists as nudum. 
thanks
-EA

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Steve Brusatte | 3 Mar 2003 00:04
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Re: John Lanzendorf's collection of dinosaur imagery

On Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:00:08   
 MKIRKALDY wrote:
>The article at:
>http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1156585&nav=0Ra7EIDl
>talks about the arrival of John Lanzendorf's collection of paintings, 
>sculptures, and all that depicts dinosaurs at the Children's Museum of 
>Indianapolis.  More than one of us was very surprised last October when 
>almost all of John's collection was acquired by the museum.  

My money says that he builds another one up within a few years :-)

Steve

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Roxton | 3 Mar 2003 03:43
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Luis Rey's email address (again, sorry)

A thousand and one excuses, this one shouldn't be truncated.

What I meant to say before is this:

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Excuse this message but emails bounce at the address listed at Luis Rey's
site. Any alternatives?

Thanks

- Roxton
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