Hachey, John | 11 Dec 2009 00:43
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molecular and radioactivity


If you were to start up a molecular biology lab today, would you require
a setup for radioactive work? With all the various chromogenic, chemiluminescent and fluorogenic
detection reagents available today, is radioactivity extraneous? Any specific protocols 
still absolutely requiring radioactivity?

Thanks, Curious John
Cathal Garvey | 11 Dec 2009 22:02
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Re: molecular and radioactivity

Hi John,
Speaking as a practising molecular biologist, I can think of no routinely
used procedure performed today involving radioactive molecules.

In fact, most if not all of the older hazardous reagents that were used a
decade ago are easily replaceable now. Many mutagenic compounds like EtBr
can be replaced with harmless and less cumbersome to manage alternatives,
though equipment used to visualise the results may need to be updated to
maintain resolution.

One use of Radioactivity that used to be commonplace was in-situ
hybridisations and protein or DNA blots, but these have been entirely
replaced with flourescent alternatives by now.

The only valid use of Radioactivity I've encountered that remains in
reasonably mainstream use is mutation breeding for plants or the like, but
even in this case one can use an X-ray machine instead of a radioactive
source.

I hope this helped! If you have questions about replacing particular
reagents or protocols with less radioactive alternatives, I'd be happy to
help look it up for you.
-Cathal Garvey
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Re: molecular and radioactivity

I think mRNA display is much easier when (if not impossible without) using radioactive isotopes.
Emily
Michael Sullivan | 11 Dec 2009 22:58
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Although I don't use radioactivity often, there are still a few  
procedures where I do or would choose to use it.

For blotting/hybridization procedures, I would still choose  
radioactivity, hands down. As far as I know, most non-radioactive  
detection procedures require an immunoblot-like detection step. In my  
opinion, this just adds one more additional set of steps that needs  
to be optimized and opportunity for noise or background to be  
introduced inot the experiment. When might one want to do some type  
of hybridization experiment? A conventional library screen (I've done  
one of these in the last 2 years), outhern bolt to determination of  
the number of loci for a transgenic event, or looking at whether  
there are multiple classes of transcripts corresponding to a given  
gene. For the latter, if one wants quantitative data, radioactivity  
is linear over several orders of magnitude while most non-radioactive  
detection systems have a far more limited linear range.

Of course there are many biochemistry experiments that are most  
easily done with radioactivity, but this will be largely dependent on  
exactly what you are working on. I may be facing doing kinetics on a  
methyl transferase soon. From my perusal of the literature, this  
looks like it will be much simpler to do with radioactivity than by  
any other approach.

Mike

On Dec 10, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Hachey, John wrote:

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DK | 12 Dec 2009 03:40

Re: molecular and radioactivity

In article <mailman.35.1260489668.13172.methods@...>,
"Hachey, John" <John.Hachey@...> wrote:
>
>If you were to start up a molecular biology lab today, would you require
>a setup for radioactive work? With all the various chromogenic,
> chemiluminescent and fluorogenic detection reagents available today,
>is radioactivity extraneous? Any specific  protocols 
>still absolutely requiring radioactivity?

"Absolutely" - probably no or very little. "In reality" - there are plenty 
of things that are done much more directly, more reliably and less
expensively with isotopes. Driving car to work is many orders of 
magnitude more dangerous to your health than using isotopes 
in the lab. 

Forsaking direct work for the poorly reproducible mega expensive 
garbage kits because of the irrational fear of radioactivity makes
absolutely no sense. Every time I see those "quantitations" of 
protein phosphorylation by mass-spec or by indirect immunoassays,
I can't stop laughing. 

DK
WS | 13 Dec 2009 04:15
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Re: molecular and radioactivity

Well said, Dima!

When designing a lab from scratch, it makes very well sense to include
instrumentation and space for radioactive isotope work. To add it
later, it might require a lot more of paperwork and construction (and
therefore money and time).

Wo
Allan Jones | 14 Dec 2009 20:15
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Re: molecular and radioactivity

Hi,

I would agree... GST pull downs just didn't work using the antibodies I 
had...  a bit of 35S and it all went fine.

In our lab there is very little radioactive work and if you look at the 
amounts used the risk is very low.

Take the 35S methionine i used for example: The ALI (annual limit on 
intake) for this isotope is 10 mCi. I used in total for all my experiments 
less than 1 mCi. As I was not eating the stuff, worked with gloves and 
tried to be reasonably careful, I assume not to have incorporated any 
radiation, but even if I had 'eaten' the entire aliquot I would still only 
have doubled my annual background radiation, as it would not even amount to 
10% ALI.

32P is of course a stronger source and actually requires adequate 
shielding, but still you have a dosimeter monitoring whether or not you 
have been overexposed.

In summary: I would set up a lab with radiation facilities, however 
nevertheless try and reduce radioactive work where sensibly possible.

All The Best!

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Duncan Clark | 18 Dec 2009 18:06

SDS that won't re-dissolve after autoclaving

Hi Folks,

Anyone any idea why if one autoclaves 10% (w/v) SDS prepared in MilliQ 
water for 25mins instead of 15mins, it will no longer go back into 
solution even when diluted 100fold into warm water? Biorad is the source 
a. If you know how to get it back into solution, please tell.

I've never come across this before. Most odd.

Duncan
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ruchi jain | 18 Dec 2009 20:14
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how to find Kd

Hello,
 I am trying to find the kd for my protein which binds GTP. I have done two
sets of experiments:
1) taken constant protein and increased unlabeled GTP and monitored the
tryptophan fluorescence quenching.
2) constant labeled (mant)-GTP and increased the protein and monitored the
fluorescence increase with increasing protein.

I want to know if someone can help me and tell the equations (and the
formulas) to feed these values in , in order to calculate the kd.

Thanks

Ruchi

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