Ekaterina Chernysheva | 16 May 2013 10:06
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Gwyddion on Win7 64bit

Dear colleagues,

I am facing a problem that I could not overcome for a long time. On my Windows 7, 64 bit I am not able to launch Gwyddion. No error or something pops up, but I am not to launch the program...
If anyone has faced the same situation or has an idea what can be done for that, I sincerely appreciate.

Thank you and have a nice day!

Kind regards,
Ekaterina Chernysheva

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D.Yu.Khanukaeva | 13 May 2013 21:50

Watershed options

Dear colleagues,

my questions are rather simple and I hope, someone will answer. I looked through the forum archive and found
analogous post about the meaning of the watershed options. There David recommended reading manual in
reply. I've read manual several times, but misunderstanding remains.
The only option which is clear for me is the Threshold - it cuts the noise on the chosen level.
More or less Drop size parameter understandable - the higher its value, the larger lakes on the image. But it
is measured in percents. What are these percents of?
Variations of Number of steps in Segmentation section also result in the sizes of the lakes. So I've
concluded, that it is the amount of drops put in each chosen grain.
At last, Number of steps in Grain location section gives the most unexpected results for me, that indicates
my absolute misunderstanding of its meaning. If the initial drops are located at every point of the image,
why do large unmasked regions appear, when this parameter is high? If this is the length of each drop path,
the result again is very strange: the drops not always concentrate in the regions which are obvious
extremums of the image, so, some grains remain unmasked...

I specially wrote my reasoning in hope somebody at least comments my words, if nobody has time for detailed explanations.
Thank you!

Daria Khanukaeva,
Gubkin Russian State University of Oil and Gas,
Department of Higher Mathematics.

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andres.muniz-piniella | 10 May 2013 22:14
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Section across different images on same graph

Hello,
This might not be possible or maybe there is a clever workaround by scripting. I tried looking through documentation and email list with no luck.

As an example I have a topography image and a current image recorded at the same time. I draw section lines over areas of interest (1) and (2) on the topography and I use the distribute lines to all images. This gets me (1') and (2') in the current image. 

How do i get Gwyddion to plot all thes sections on the same graph or at least pair up (1) with (1')? All I can do is pair up (1) with (2).

Anything short from plotting it with gnuplot or similar. 






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Peter Eaton | 9 May 2013 10:52
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Re: Gwyddion-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 1

Hi Ben,
2: I think, that option probably cannot do much harm.
3: I do not think repeatedly clicking anything until a threshold is met is a
good idea. Each time you remove a scar , it averages part s of the image,
directly reducing roughness. I do not know if clicking this more than once
in Gwyddion actually has any effect, however.

Measured Roughness depends on many factors including:
1.The size of the (physical) area measured
2.The number of pixels sampled
3. Post processing
4. The actual shape of the sample
5. Various artifacts of the AFM.

So, you are trying to isolate only point 4, which is tricky, without
accounting for the other factors!

What I normally do when I want the roughness of some areas in a n image is:
Extract (Crop) a number of ROIs, from the main image (all the same size)
Perform necessary post processing, normally some flattening, to take account
of changes along the slow axis, and curvature on the fast axis, i.e. a 2nd
order horizontal level.
Record the rms/Ra of each area.

You can do this in Gwyddion. You will be limited to square or rectangular
areas.

The main thing you MUST do is ensure that you ONLY compare areas the same
physical size, and ONLY compare areas that have been treated EXACTLY the
same.
All of these issues are discussed in my book (details below), Chapter 5 I
think.
 Scott's suggestions are good, although it's important to remember to use
the same size area. Small areas (nearly) always will give smaller roughness
values.S cott makes the valid point, that if you have jumps and scars, you
should get another image, because it's fundamentally impossible to measure
meaningful roughness of those images...the bit under the scar is a complete
unknown...by using the gwydion scar correction routine, you are reducing the
roughness value of those areas to a value below the (unknown) real    value.

Good luck!
Pete.

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Hi,

I want to use gwiddion to measure the RMS roughness of the facets of a
terraced sapphire substrate.  I have saved my AFM data without processing
and find that the only way to get a reasonable image is by using the
"correct lines by matching median height" icon.  I'm having a little trouble
finding documentation on this function and would like to know

1) What does this function do exactly?

2) Is it valid to apply this function before calculating the RMS roughness
of a leveled facet?  I think that this tool corrects for jump
discontinuities in the slow scanning axis, which seems like a reasonable
thing to do, but certainly the medians of all lines should not be equal?
 How would the application of this function effect the RMS value that I
calculate?

3) Right now I'm using the line median correction and scarring correction
buy clicking them repeatedly until there is no change in the image.  Then I
do 3 point leveling with the triangle icon on a facet.  Finally I select an
area on the facet and measure the RMS roughness.  Is this a reasonable
procedure?

I'm pretty new to AFM so any response that explains the fundamentals
necessary to answer these questions would be most appreciated.

Thanks a lot,
-Ben
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Erin Leigh Wood | 9 May 2013 05:35
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Lost or corrupted settings file?


Hello,

I am curious,as this is now the second time it's happened to me, if  
anyone has their settings file lost or corrupted. I was using Gwyddion  
just fine tonight, and all of the sudden it popped up with the error  
message "Could not find settings. Settings file  
`C:\Users\Erin\gwyddion\settings' cannot be read: File is corrupted,  
deserialization failed.

To prevent loss of saved settings no attempt to update it will be made  
until it is repaired or removed."

I'm running on a 64-bit Windows 7 Home Premium, but this has also  
happened to me using another laptop running Win 7 enterprise edition.

I tried a fresh install, and it didn't seem to help. But, even if I  
can resolve this problem, I'd like to know how to avoid it again in  
the future, as I am quite dependent on the program.

Thank you
Erin L Wood

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Ben Chiaro | 24 Apr 2013 06:49
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Median Line Correction Valididty

Hi,

I want to use gwiddion to measure the RMS roughness of the facets of a terraced sapphire substrate.  I have saved my AFM data without processing and find that the only way to get a reasonable image is by using the "correct lines by matching median height" icon.  I'm having a little trouble finding documentation on this function and would like to know

1) What does this function do exactly?

2) Is it valid to apply this function before calculating the RMS roughness of a leveled facet?  I think that this tool corrects for jump discontinuities in the slow scanning axis, which seems like a reasonable thing to do, but certainly the medians of all lines should not be equal?  How would the application of this function effect the RMS value that I calculate?

3) Right now I'm using the line median correction and scarring correction buy clicking them repeatedly until there is no change in the image.  Then I do 3 point leveling with the triangle icon on a facet.  Finally I select an area on the facet and measure the RMS roughness.  Is this a reasonable procedure?

I'm pretty new to AFM so any response that explains the fundamentals necessary to answer these questions would be most appreciated.

Thanks a lot,
-Ben
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andres.muniz-piniella | 20 Apr 2013 08:56
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Promoting Gwyddion

Hello,
 Have the project leads thought of promoting gwyddion on FLOSS weekly[1]?
Could be to get more contributors? (developers)

The latest program about pootle (translating) seems very interesting.

I am getting more and more users where I work but I don't think any of us contribute.

[1] http://twit.tv/floss




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chris bostick | 19 Apr 2013 15:14
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Autocorrelation ACF statistical analysis help


Hi all,

I'm having some difficulties using and understanding the output of the ACF function in the 1D and 2D plots. My goal is to use the ACF function to find the average height of a matrix array of nanopillars that have a periodicity of 500 nm (an example found at the end of this message). The profile analysis shows heights of around 30 nm, however, when I do the 1D or 2D plot I get numbers that do not agree. The 2D plot gives numbers of 9 nm^2 and the 1D plot numbers of 20-30 nm^2. What are possible sources of why these numbers do not correlate? Is the output of the ACF plots giving height or is it giving a variance of height in the image? Thank you for your help. Please find the initial image, section graph of initial image, 2d correlation image, and 1d correlation plot of initial image below.
 
   
 

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Sidney Cohen | 19 Apr 2013 10:21
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overlay

Hi

We wanted to display overlay (current on topography), and tried to do it using the addition function. However, the color of the images always is set to default regardless of changes we make so that the two images blend together. Is there a way to do this?

 

Thanks,

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Witchukorn Phuthong | 19 Apr 2013 00:43
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Order in processing - 1D FFT vs Scar Removal

Hi Yeti and everyone,

I have a question on the order of steps in processing the AFM image. I wonder what should be done before for the correct processing, between 1D FFT & Removing scars. Intuitively, I would remove the scars first; however, somehow, for my images, removing scars after 1D (vertical) FFT gives me a bit clearer particles and substantial cleaner background  in the images.

Thanks,
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David Nečas (Yeti | 16 Apr 2013 14:47
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Re: Batch process files in a directory with pygwy


Please keep the discussion on the mailing list.

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 03:42:43PM -0700, Zubin Huang wrote:
> I am now stuck with another problem.
> 
> I tried to save the datafield to a tiff file by the following
> script. But it always freezes when I run through pygwy console.
> 
> gwyutils.save_dfield_to_png(c, key, "_fixed.tiff", gwy.RUN_NONINTERACTIVE)
>
> Would you please help me resolve the frozen problem? Do I need to
> open the file in gwyddion GUI to use gwyutils? Seems like that would
> defeat the purpose of using pygwy for multiple files processing.

It does not freeze for me but running scripts pygwy console is not a
good way to batch-process all files in a directory anyway because it
will open them all in the running Gwyddion.

Rendering images is tricky because it depends, for historical reasons,
on running GUI (at least in some rudimentary form).  I would do
something like this in a standalone script

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import gwy, gwyutils, os, glob, re

settings = gwy.gwy_app_settings_get()
# Set options in settings...

for filename in glob.glob('*.gwy'):
    c = gwy.gwy_file_load(filename, gwy.RUN_NONINTERACTIVE)
    gwy.gwy_app_data_browser_add(c)
    for key in c.keys_by_name():
        if re.match(r'^/\d+/data$', key):
            field = c[key]
            xres = field.get_xres()
            weights = gwy.DataLine(xres, 1.0, True)
            weights.part_fill(0, xres//3, 1.0)
            filtered = gwy.DataField.new_alike(field, False)
            field.fft_filter_1d(filtered, weights,
                                gwy.ORIENTATION_HORIZONTAL,
                                gwy.INTERPOLATION_ROUND)

            c[key] = filtered

    newname = os.path.splitext(filename)[0] + '_fixed.tiff'
    gwyutils.save_dfield_to_png(c, key, newname, gwy.RUN_NONINTERACTIVE)
    gwy.gwy_app_data_browser_remove(c)
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Except that it crashes with 2.31.  I fixed it already so you can try
development snapshot 2.31.20130417 or later where this should work.

Regards,

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