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Walter Pfefferle | 1 Sep 2006 02:49
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OS: 76 & 83

Caught 76 in bad light but the shot I think is OK
http://tinyurl.com/kg53v

also caught 83 running 40 minutes late in fading light.
http://tinyurl.com/zmt8u

Thanks for looking

Walter
Ingersoll Ontario
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Dale Wilson | 1 Sep 2006 02:25
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Re: Turning #2 at Capreol

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>In a message dated 8/31/06 2:00:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
>dale.wilson@... writes:
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>VIA crew  members will supply the labour and the wye is made up of the
>Toronto line,  plus the yard and the stub of what was once the line to
>North  Bay.
>
>
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>I've only been to Capreol once, in 1986. It was dark, but I don't recall 
>seeing a lot of lights. I got the impression that the town was out 
>in the woods 
>somewhere.
>
>Tom Hoffman
>Pearisburg VA

c.35 kilometres north and a bit east of Sudbury. It's a small town 
now a part of the "City of Greater Sudbury". Population in recent 
years has moved from being almost completely CN employees and 
dependents to a mixtures of these, plus retirees and those using the 
town as a "bedroom suburb".

The view from a station stop at night would show very little of the 
town, in any event.
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Dale Wilson  <dale.wilson@...>
Nickel Belt Rails, Box 483, Station "B", Sudbury, ON, P3E 4P6
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Tom Box | 1 Sep 2006 03:32

Re: Non Resident Rail Discounts (was Re: Easterly Class sale...)

Lyman Holmes wrote:

> Personally as a U.S. citizen, it would not bother me if Amtrak
> offered (and perhaps it does offer) a reasonable discount to
> foreign tourists who wish to travel on Amtrak even if the
> discount was superior to the discount which was being offered
> to me as a U.S. citizen.  The reason I would not be disturbed
> by this is that 1) it would encourage patronage on Amtrak;
> and 2) it would benefit the U.S. economy by promoting tourism
> in some small way.

A $395 USA Rail Pass, available only to non-residents, allows
almost unlimited travel in a 30-day period.  I don't know all
the discounts available to U.S. residents, but I suspect this
is a better deal than anything available to Americans.  For
example, the cheapest fare I could find for Boston - Seattle -
San Diego - New Orleans - Boston was $474.  A pass holder
intent on collecting a lot of mileage could cover much more
ground than that in 30 days.  There are also other versions
of the pass for shorter time periods or more limited regions,
for a lower cost.

I suppose the reason this pass is not available to Americans
is to prevent its use by commuters or others travelling very
frequently on a given route.  This pass is available to
residents of every foreign country except Canada.  I'm not
sure why we're excluded.  The pass is valid on the Adirondack
out of Montreal and the Talgo out of Vancouver (though not on
the Canadian portion of the Maple Leaf, since it's VIA, not
Amtrak), but the schedules of these trains don't make them
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Tom Box | 1 Sep 2006 03:51

Re: Turning #2 at Capreol

Tom Hoffman wrote:

> I've only been to Capreol once, in 1986. It was dark, but
> I don't recall seeing a lot of lights. I got the impression
> that the town was out in the woods somewhere.

Capreol isn't very big, but it's part of Greater Sudbury,
which has a population of 150,000.  Capreol is only about
30 km from downtown Sudbury.  It's not nearly as isolated
as Hornepayne or Armstrong or Sioux Lookout.

Until 1978, the Montreal and Toronto sections of the
Super Continental were combined in Capreol.

Tom Box  <tbox@...> or <cz610@...>
Toronto, ON, Canada

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Lyman Holmes | 1 Sep 2006 05:54
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Non Resident Rail Discounts (was Re: Easterly Class sale...)

--- In Canadian-Passenger-Rail@..., Tom Box <tbox <at> ...> 
wrote:
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> See message #35169.  VIA management circa 1991 thought this
> would be beneficial, but Herb Gray and Paul Langan objected,
> and the National Transportation Agency sided with them.
> 
I assume that as a result of the NTA decision, it would require a 
statutory revision to allow Via to offer a discount to foreign tourists 
which was not available to Canadian citizens.  

Would a private operator have the legal ability to do so in Canada, for 
example a hotel or cruise ship?

The National Transportation Agency seemed to be concerned with the 
erosion of Via's revenue which would not be a factor with a private 
hotel or cruise ship.

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Jon Calon | 1 Sep 2006 08:48
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Re: Very Late Hudson's Bay 693/692

Nice to hear the report Darren.  Thank you for that.

And by the way, it's The Pas, not The Pass.  Completely different 
pronunciations.

Jon

On 31-Aug-06, at 4:12 PM, darrenmullin84 wrote:

> Just got into Winnipeg on a very late 692 from Churchill.  My trip
> started off in Toronto on August 24th where I departed Via 1 and
> arrived ontime into Winnipeg the next day.  I stayed 2 nights in
> Winnipeg to enjoy the Prairie Dog Central train and the avaition
> museum located at The Winnipeg Airport.
>
> On Sunday August 27th, I boarded the Hutsons Bay Via 693 and left
> Winnipeg on time at 8:45pm.
>
> The consist was
>
> 6439
> 86 baggage
> coach
> coach
> diner
> cheateu sleeper
> ex cn combine coach  (deadhead to The Pass.)
>
> Gradually through out the night the train was delayed because of slow
> orders through out the line.  The next morning I arrived into The
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gopullman | 1 Sep 2006 08:59
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Re: Very Late Hudson's Bay 693/692


In a message dated 9/1/06 2:50:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
jon.yahoogroups@... writes:

And by  the way, it's The Pas, not The Pass. Completely different  
pronunciations.

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It's "The PA" right, as in "my pa worked for the railroad."

What is the origin of the word? It sounds French, but if so, it should be  Le 
Pa or La Pa.

Tom Hoffman
Pearisburg VA

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moonliter55 | 1 Sep 2006 14:45
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Re: Very Late Hudson's Bay 693/692

--- In Canadian-Passenger-Rail@..., gopullman <at> ... wrote:
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>  
> It's "The PA" right, as in "my pa worked for the railroad."
>  
> What is the origin of the word? 

Its name has its roots in the Cree word opasquaow,'narrows between 
wooded banks'.

It sounds French, but if so, it should be  Le 
> Pa or La Pa.

During the French period of exploration the name was rendered Le Pas.

My source was the the Oxford Dictionary of Canadian Place Names by 
Alan Rayburn, published in 1997.

Gerry Gaugl,
Ottawa ON

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Walter Pfefferle | 1 Sep 2006 17:13
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OS: VIA 70 and 71

Caught 70 leaving Ingersoll and 71 sliding by 396 at the station.

http://tinyurl.com/ljhfj

http://tinyurl.com/rglo3
http://tinyurl.com/msfk6

Thanks for taking the time to look

Walter
Ingersoll Ontario
Web Site http://geocities.com/railpast
Latest Photos http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/railpast5/

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David Jeanes | 1 Sep 2006 15:33
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Everything is related: Wagner and Canadian Railways

I have a reputation for trying to prove wild theories about people and railway 
projects.

So here is a big one: inspired by my plans to attend Wagner's complete Ring Cycle  
at the new Toronto 4 Seasons opera/ballet house this month.

I should mention that as a member of the United States Institute for Theatre 
Technology in 1965, at their annual convention in Toronto, I heard National Ballet 
Director Celia Franca, ("Miss Franca" to her close associates"), plead for the 
construction of a ballet/opera house.

Sensing the likelihood of a delay, within three years I had abandoned my budding 
career in theatre technology, attracted by the bright lights, loud music and 
melodrama of the computer and telecommunications industries. This despite the 
fact that Ottawa's new opera house was already under construction, to open in 
1969, the year I graduated and started work in high-tech.

Within another five years I had begun to agitate for better bus service, revitalized 
transcontinental trains, and high speed rail for the corridor. (Light rail would be 
added to the mix later on).  All sure winners compared to Toronto's nebulous need 
for an Opera House.

Anyway:

Richard Wagner's first Opera, Das Liebesverbot, appeared in 1836, the same year 
as Canada's first railway, the Champlain & St. Lawrence.

Wagner completed Das Rheingold in 1854, the same year as the Bytown and 
Prescott Railway, which brought Ottawa out of the backwoods.
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