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onrfp7a | 1 Sep 2005 01:43
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VIA trains #50/51 Enterprise-only 2 weeks to go!

As of 19:40EDT, Reservia still showed lots of space available for the 
final run(s) of the Enterprise trains on September 14. Only 
the "Comfort Super" tickets were sold-out.

Ron.
Mimico, ON

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Alan | 1 Sep 2005 02:20
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Re: Purchasing Upgrades on the Enterprise

There are no discounts offered for on-train upgrades on the Enterprise. 
The SM has a rate sheet with the applicable fares and will charge you 
the difference between what you paid and what the fare is.

You're better off to purchase 5 days in advance and pay the discounted 
fare.

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> Has anybody purchased an upgrade from coach to sleeper
> on the Enterprise?  Would it be cheaper to purchase
> the upgrade at Central Station before the train
> departs, or should I wait until after departure and
> speak to the SM?

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Tom Box | 1 Sep 2005 02:51

Re: VIA trains #50/51 Enterprise-only 2 weeks to go!

Ron wrote:

> As of 19:40EDT, Reservia still showed lots of space available
> for the final run(s) of the Enterprise trains on September 14.
> Only the "Comfort Super" tickets were sold-out.

As Ron says, the V seats are sold out for through Montreal-
Toronto travel, but some are available for shorter route
segments: Oshawa-Montreal on #50, and Montreal-Cobourg on #51.

For a through Toronto-Montreal trip, #50 has only one standard
bedroom and four Q seats available, according to ReserVIA.
It has three or more deluxe bedrooms and six or more Y seats.

For a through trip, #51 has six or more Q seats (and of course
six or more Y seats), and three or more deluxe bedrooms, but
only one standard bedroom.

Tom Box  <tbox@...> or <cz610@...>
Toronto, ON, Canada

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Tom Box | 1 Sep 2005 02:57

Re: Purchasing Upgrades on night trains (was ... on the Enterprise)

Alan wrote:

> There are no discounts offered for on-train upgrades on the
> Enterprise.  The SM has a rate sheet with the applicable fares
> and will charge you the difference between what you paid and
> what the fare is.
> 
> You're better off to purchase 5 days in advance and pay
> the discounted fare.

Is the same true on the Ocean, Chaleur, Hudson Bay and
Canadian, or do they have on-train discounts?  What are
the rules regarding meal entitlement and daytime access
to the Park car when you upgrade on the Ocean (Easterly)
or the Canadian?

Tom Box  <tbox@...> or <cz610@...>
Toronto, ON, Canada

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Alan | 1 Sep 2005 04:08
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Re: Purchasing Upgrades on night trains (was ... on the Enterprise)

--- In Canadian-Passenger-Rail@..., Tom Box <tbox <at> g...> 
wrote:

> Is the same true on the Ocean, Chaleur, Hudson Bay and
> Canadian, or do they have on-train discounts?  What are
> the rules regarding meal entitlement and daytime access
> to the Park car when you upgrade on the Ocean (Easterly)
> or the Canadian?

Discounts are offered for on-train upgrades on all other services.  
Occupancy is generally permitted from 22:00 until 08:00 and no meals 
are included.  Access to all other amenities are not permitted.  You 
get the use of the sleeper and shower if offered.

By the way, the SM may also offer on-train upgrade in VIA 1 in the 
corridor.  The VIA 1 meal is included if there are enough on board, but 
it is not guaranteed.

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chadwicksevern | 1 Sep 2005 04:55
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Re: VIA Service Montreal - Fallowfield

I had the opportunity to take this weekday-only service today.

Train 30 arrived on the end of Train 41 at 6:17am today. Train 41 
boarded its passengers and left on time at 6:20am. The two trains 
were decoupled by one employee in seconds. Although #30 was only 
three LRC cars and was entirely within the station platform, it did 
a reverse move after #41 left in order to be adjacent to the station.

A total of ten passengers boarded #30 and we left two minutes late 
at 6:25am. There were no on-board announcements, no ticket 
collection, and obviously no food service before Ottawa Station.

We got to Ottawa station on the first through-track, where the 53 
passengers were already lined up ready to board at 6:50am. We left 
four minutes later. 

We arrived in Montreal on time.

When I was ready to leave Montreal, I noticed that Train 67 was 
marked "Toronto/Aldershot" on the big board, but that my Train 37 
was simply "Ottawa". After our on-time departure, they did say it 
was a Fallowfield-bound train with stops at Dorval, Alexandria and 
Ottawa.

We got to Ottawa two minutes early on the same through-track. The 
farewell message was delivered prior to Ottawa. After most of the 
passengers deboarded, the VIA service manager verified that we all 
wanted to go to Fallowfield. We left Ottawa four minutes later. 
There were 14 passengers who got off at Fallowfield, and the train 
immediately did its reverse move to head back to Ottawa.
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Canadian | 1 Sep 2005 13:17
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on rails in Canada while carrying passengers, then it's 'on-topic.'"
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wamjlb | 1 Sep 2005 05:05
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Re: VIA #2 late once more

Just saw #2 at the bottom of the Bala sub at 10.42pm.
Bill MacINTYRE

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davidmississauga | 1 Sep 2005 15:19
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Re: VIA #2 late once more

--- In Canadian-Passenger-Rail@..., "wamjlb" <wam <at> i...> 
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> Just saw #2 at the bottom of the Bala sub at 10.42pm.
> Bill MacINTYRE

A friend who is not a member of this group (but is a frequent rail 
traveller) says there are two things to be thankful for when the 
Canadian is this late:

1.  The passengers are arriving on the finest train in the country 
and not on a bus.

2.  The train is arriving on the same day on which it is due.

This is not a dig at VIA.  In fairness, almost all major delays on 
the Canadian are not VIA's fault. Although I am always late when 
arriving Toronto on #2, I have met friends and relatives who have 
been 30 to 40 minutes early.  On a trip to Jasper in 2002 and to 
Winnipeg in 2003, we arrived at our destination a full hour early.

David Brain,
Mississauga, Ont.

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icle_mlr | 1 Sep 2005 15:22
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Re: Purchasing Upgrades on night trains (was ... on the Enterprise

--- In Canadian-Passenger-Rail@..., "Alan" <28pfds <at> g...>
wrote:
> --- In Canadian-Passenger-Rail@..., Tom Box <tbox <at> g...> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Is the same true on the Ocean, Chaleur, Hudson Bay and
> > Canadian, or do they have on-train discounts?  What are
> > the rules regarding meal entitlement and daytime access
> > to the Park car when you upgrade on the Ocean (Easterly)
> > or the Canadian?
> 
> Discounts are offered for on-train upgrades on all other services.  
> Occupancy is generally permitted from 22:00 until 08:00 and no meals 
> are included.  Access to all other amenities are not permitted.  You 
> get the use of the sleeper and shower if offered.
> 
> By the way, the SM may also offer on-train upgrade in VIA 1 in the 
> corridor.  The VIA 1 meal is included if there are enough on board, but 
> it is not guaranteed.

Unfortunately gentleman ,There is no upgrade permitted from comfort
(coach) or Comfort sleeper to Easterly class . overnite sales (up
grade) are sold only from coach to comfort sleeper,if such space is
available

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