bryantsm2 | 1 Feb 15:11 2009
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Help with PG-4Y and MCP Software

I purchased the Kenwood PG-4Y programming interface cable for my
TH-F6A as well as the RTS-03 USB to Serial Adapter.  All items
purchased from HRO in Virginia.

I loaded the Memory Control Program MCP-F6/F7 Version 1.00 from
Kenwood onto my computer following the directions.  I loaded the
drivers for the RTS-03 cable by following the exact directions.

I changed the setting 9 in the TH-F6A to PC as directed.

I opened the MCP program and attempted to download the frequencies I
set in its memory to my HT. 

I get the following error: "The radio is invalid. Please check and try
again"

I tried to Google this error and the only suggestions were to make
sure the Menu No. 9 is set to "PC".

I loaded everything again on a different computer with the same issues.

Any help would greatly be appreciated.

73,
Steve, N0DWB

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Robert Elsinga | 1 Feb 19:40 2009
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Re: Help with PG-4Y and MCP Software

bryantsm2 wrote:
> I purchased the Kenwood PG-4Y programming interface cable for my
> TH-F6A as well as the RTS-03 USB to Serial Adapter.  All items
> purchased from HRO in Virginia.
> 
> I loaded the Memory Control Program MCP-F6/F7 Version 1.00 from
> Kenwood onto my computer following the directions.  I loaded the
> drivers for the RTS-03 cable by following the exact directions.
> 
> I changed the setting 9 in the TH-F6A to PC as directed.
> 
> I opened the MCP program and attempted to download the frequencies I
> set in its memory to my HT. 
> 
> I get the following error: "The radio is invalid. Please check and try
> again"
> 
> I tried to Google this error and the only suggestions were to make
> sure the Menu No. 9 is set to "PC".
> 
> I loaded everything again on a different computer with the same issues.
> 
> Any help would greatly be appreciated.

As far as I remember, you get to answer a question about which type of 
HT you have: F6A, F7E and one other I can't remember. You need to answer 
correct, otherwise it won't work.

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Mike Hickerson | 1 Feb 19:51 2009
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RE: Help with PG-4Y and MCP Software

The other thing is to make sure that you select the correct com port.  For my MCP that I downloaded from the Kenwood site I have to use COM PORT 4.  I also have to select Menu 9 speaker mic  and then with that selection, select the PC mode. 

Mike W0MBH



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From: bryantsm2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:11:06 +0000
Subject: [TH-F6A] Help with PG-4Y and MCP Software

I purchased the Kenwood PG-4Y programming interface cable for my
TH-F6A as well as the RTS-03 USB to Serial Adapter. All items
purchased from HRO in Virginia.

I loaded the Memory Control Program MCP-F6/F7 Version 1.00 from
Kenwood onto my computer following the directions. I loaded the
drivers for the RTS-03 cable by following the exact directions.

I changed the setting 9 in the TH-F6A to PC as directed.

I opened the MCP program and attempted to download the frequencies I
set in its memory to my HT.

I get the following error: "The radio is invalid. Please check and try
again"

I tried to Google this error and the only suggestions were to make
sure the Menu No. 9 is set to "PC".

I loaded everything again on a different computer with the same issues.

Any help would greatly be appreciated.

73,
Steve, N0DWB


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Rich Stiebel | 1 Feb 20:33 2009
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Re: Re: Wide FM is really deaf...

Thanks for the feedback.  Glad this worked for you. 

One other thing to be aware of, apparently the SMA center pin on the rubber duckie antenna is very fragile.  Having removed it to connect my mobile mag-mount antenna many times, one day I found my signal strength barely readable in a repeater about 2 miles away.  When I removed the rubber duck, I found its center pin stuck in the radio side of the SMA.  From comments on F6 reflector, apparently others have had this problem.  On the other hand, my XYL's F6 rubber duckie has been fine.  She never disconnects it.

So, if after opening the squelch you still have reduced sensitivity, check the center pin on your rubber duck.

Rich

--- On Thu, 1/29/09, KB1OBG <slackerama-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
From: KB1OBG <slackerama-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: [TH-F6A] Re: Wide FM is really deaf...
To: TH-F6A-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org
Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 7:35 AM

Hi Rich,

Thanks so much, that was the key. I actually turned the squelch off
and it made a significant improvement in wide FM reception. It's still
not as good as the VX-3R's reception but it's pretty close. It seems
like the default squelch setting is pretty high, but turning it off
made a big difference :)

--- In TH-F6A <at> yahoogroups. com, Rich Stiebel <w6apz <at> ...> wrote:
>
> The first thing to check is the squelch setting.  Make sure the
squelch is at the edge of being open, i.e. open the squelch until you
hear background noise, then just barely close it to cut out background
noise.  You do this in the band, but not tuned to a station.
>
> Rich, W6APZ

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Fred | 1 Feb 21:04 2009
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Re: Wide FM is really deaf...

No probs and thanks for clarifying Anton.  Given heights and losses, ERP looks the best reference.
Scottish FM transmitters look to have an ERP anywhere between 10W and 250kW e.g.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/transmitters/radio/scotland_fm.shtml#Meldrum
What broadcast antenna types and gain would be most typical where you are?
Regards,
Fred.

From: Anton Loeb <tony1loeb <at> yahoo.com>
To: TH-F6A-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org
Sent: Saturday, 31 January, 2009 18:05:35
Subject: Re: [TH-F6A] Wide FM is really deaf...

Not to get into a long thing about this, but I meant ERP, too.  I was an FM broadcast engineer some years back and have a pretty good idea of what's current on the subject.

--- On Sat, 1/31/09, Fred <glenndriech <at> yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
From: Fred <glenndriech <at> yahoo.co. uk>
Subject: Re: [TH-F6A] Wide FM is really deaf...
To: TH-F6A <at> yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 7:24 AM

Yes - but Ken said ERP - so transmitter power might be a quarter of the Effective Radiated Power.
Fred.

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From: Anton Loeb <tony1loeb <at> yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [TH-F6A] Wide FM is really deaf...
To: TH-F6A <at> yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, 31 January, 2009, 6:07 AM

I would be curious about the final verdict on this one.  I have also experienced pretty mediocre image frequency rejection on the TH-F6A--having 2 meter repeaters showing up at 390 mhz..

BTW, most FM stations run a lot less than 100 kW, and many education band (below 92 mHz) stations run 1 kW or less.

Tony
AB6Q

--- On Fri, 1/30/09, Bob Donnell <kd7nm <at> pugetsound. net> wrote:
From: Bob Donnell <kd7nm <at> pugetsound. net>
Subject: Re: [TH-F6A] Wide FM is really deaf...
To: TH-F6A <at> yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 7:52 PM

The other side of that coin is that most commercial FM stations run about
100 kW ERP. That, and having the Kenwood work way less well than the
Yaesu,
suggests either the receiver or antenna performs very differently.
Just to be clear though, the WFM indicator isn't blinking, is it? I.e. is
the receiver attenuator turned on? That could make a big difference too!

73, Bob, KD7NM

On Friday 30 January 2009 14:29:56 Ken Arck wrote:
> At 09:46 PM 1/28/2009, Rich Stiebel wrote:
> >The first thing to check is the squelch setting. Make sure the
> >squelch is at the edge of being open, i.e. open the squelch until
> >you hear background noise, then just barely close it to cut out
> >background noise. You do this in the band, but not tuned to a
station.
>
> <---In addition to the other fine comments about this, don't forget
> that the wider the bandwidth of the receiver, the lower the useable
> sensitivity. Just something to consider....
>
> Ken
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Stan | 1 Feb 22:27 2009
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RE: Help with PG-4Y and MCP Software

The other thing i can think of but not sure if it applys to usb ports, it applys to comports, is to make sure you don't have any TSR programs that takes control of the ports ie: Sync. Manager, active sync for palm devices & ppc's if you do try disabling it then run the mcp program.
stan



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From: robert-jETw+/NovYzR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 19:40:14 +0100
Subject: Re: [TH-F6A] Help with PG-4Y and MCP Software


bryantsm2 wrote:
> I purchased the Kenwood PG-4Y programming interface cable for my
> TH-F6A as well as the RTS-03 USB to Serial Adapter. All items
> purchased from HRO in Virginia.
>
> I loaded the Memory Control Program MCP-F6/F7 Version 1.00 from
> Kenwood onto my computer following the directions. I loaded the
> drivers for the RTS-03 cable by following the exact directions.
>
> I changed the setting 9 in the TH-F6A to PC as directed.
>
> I opened the MCP program and attempted to download the frequencies I
> set in its memory to my HT.
>
> I get the following error: "The radio is invalid. Please check and try
> again"
>
> I tried to Google this error and the only suggestions were to make
> sure the Menu No. 9 is set to "PC".
>
> I loaded everything again on a different computer with the same issues.
>
> Any help would greatly be appreciated.

As far as I remember, you get to answer a question about which type of
HT you have: F6A, F7E and one other I can't remember. You need to answer
correct, otherwise it won't work.

--

Robert Elsinga =8-)
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Steven Bryant | 1 Feb 23:16 2009
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Re: Help with PG-4Y and MCP Software

Mike, you are a genius!  Thanks for that suggestion.  I was on COM PORT 4, turns out my computer wanted COM PORT 5.  Once I changed PORTS all was fine.  Thanks again, you saved me a trip back to HRO.

73,
Steve, N0DWB

On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Mike Hickerson <w0mbh-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:

The other thing is to make sure that you select the correct com port.  For my MCP that I downloaded from the Kenwood site I have to use COM PORT 4.  I also have to select Menu 9 speaker mic  and then with that selection, select the PC mode. 

Mike W0MBH



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From: bryantsm2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:11:06 +0000
Subject: [TH-F6A] Help with PG-4Y and MCP Software


I purchased the Kenwood PG-4Y programming interface cable for my
TH-F6A as well as the RTS-03 USB to Serial Adapter. All items
purchased from HRO in Virginia.

I loaded the Memory Control Program MCP-F6/F7 Version 1.00 from
Kenwood onto my computer following the directions. I loaded the
drivers for the RTS-03 cable by following the exact directions.

I changed the setting 9 in the TH-F6A to PC as directed.

I opened the MCP program and attempted to download the frequencies I
set in its memory to my HT.

I get the following error: "The radio is invalid. Please check and try
again"

I tried to Google this error and the only suggestions were to make
sure the Menu No. 9 is set to "PC".

I loaded everything again on a different computer with the same issues.

Any help would greatly be appreciated.

73,
Steve, N0DWB



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twm47099 | 2 Feb 19:07 2009
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Active antennas and the TH-F6A ??

I recently purchased a TH-F6A.  I have started to review the older 
posts and really appreciate the info.  I have found that there are a 
few recurring topics (software, batteries, antennas, and the SMA 
mount). 

One of the reasons I bought the TH-F6A was for its all band and SSB 
reception capabilities.  I knew that the ducky would not be useful 
for reception on the HF bands and had intended to connect the TH-F6A 
to a HF antenna (either my attic antenna or a battery powered 
antenna when I am camping.)

However, there were some posts which cautioned about connecting the 
TH-F6A to an external antenna (blowing the front end) which have me 
concerned.  I have tried using inductive coupling my attic antenna 
to the ferrite bar antenna as recommended in the files section of 
the group, and that worked fairly well on the lower bands.  It was 
not easy to tune SSB on 40 and 80 meters due to the noise from the 
attic antenna and I could not get the 20 meter band or anything 
above 10MHz.  I was not able to hear WWV (2.5, 5, or 10 MHz) on AM 
but could just detect it on SSB.

I have also tried the 'ducky into the telephone handset coiled 
cable' method and that worked pretty well.  I was able to tune SSB 
on 40 and 80 meters, hear signals on 20 meters and hear WWV on 10 
and 15 MHz.  However, our home landline phone is not in a location 
comfortable for serious SWL.

So my question -- I have a MFJ 1020C active antenna (9v battery 
power source) that I use with my shortwave receiver (either as an 
active antenna or as a pretuner using the attic antenna).  So would 
it be 'safe' to connect the MFJ to the SMA conector on the TH-F6A, 
(pros & cons would be useful if you are not comfortable 
saying "safe".)  I have also considered using it as a pretuner with 
a random wire when camping.  What are the pros and cons regarding 
that.  I will try inductive coupling using the rubber ducky and a 
coil, but don't know if I will get enough signal that way, but it 
would have the advantage of not screwing with the SMA connector. Is 
there an optimum number of coil turns.

I know that I would not be able to transmit with the MFJ hooked up.

I would appreciate any comments and thanks for your help.

Tom
KB5SFR

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Russell Hltn | 2 Feb 20:06 2009
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Re: Active antennas and the TH-F6A ??

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see a problem with the MFJ.
I think the concern is that when you connect a big outdoor antenna
there are static discharges, surges and stuff that could damage the HT
since it wasn't really designed to be connected that way.  I don't
think an indoor antenna like that poses any threat.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:07 AM, twm47099 <tandjmonte@...> wrote:
>
> However, there were some posts which cautioned about connecting the
> TH-F6A to an external antenna (blowing the front end) which have me
> concerned.
...
>
> So my question -- I have a MFJ 1020C active antenna (9v battery
> power source) that I use with my shortwave receiver (either as an
> active antenna or as a pretuner using the attic antenna).  So would
> it be 'safe' to connect the MFJ to the SMA conector on the TH-F6A,
> (pros & cons would be useful if you are not comfortable
> saying "safe".)  I have also considered using it as a pretuner with
> a random wire when camping.  What are the pros and cons regarding
> that.  I will try inductive coupling using the rubber ducky and a
> coil, but don't know if I will get enough signal that way, but it
> would have the advantage of not screwing with the SMA connector. Is
> there an optimum number of coil turns.
>

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twm47099 | 3 Feb 06:23 2009
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Re: Active antennas and the TH-F6A ??

I made a coil of thin wire on a lightweight form (about 1-inch 
diameter with 20 turns) that I attached to my attic antenna and 
placed the coil around the 'ducky' to inductively couple to the 
antenna.  I disabled the bar antenna.  I was able to listen to bands 
from AM broadcast up through 15MHz.  I clearly heard SSB on 20, 40, 
80 and 160 meters.  

Next thing is to try to build a portable HF vertical and try it 
outside (probably wait until the next warm day.

Tom

--- In TH-F6A@..., "twm47099" <tandjmonte <at> ...> wrote:
>snip ... 
> However, there were some posts which cautioned about connecting 
the 
> TH-F6A to an external antenna (blowing the front end) which have 
me 
> concerned.  I have tried using inductive coupling my attic antenna 
> to the ferrite bar antenna as recommended ...and that worked 
fairly well on the lower bands.  But ... I could not get the 20 
meter band or anything above 10MHz...  
> 
> I have also tried the 'ducky into the telephone handset coiled 
> cable' method and that worked pretty well. ...> 

> I will try inductive coupling using the rubber ducky and a 
> coil, but don't know if I will get enough signal that way, but it 
> would have the advantage of not screwing with the SMA connector. 
Is 
> there an optimum number of coil turns.
> 
> 
> I would appreciate any comments and thanks for your help.
> 
> Tom
> KB5SFR
>

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