SCANNING palm beach county, florida sheriffs department

sometimes I hear scrambling of conversion on my bc250d. I have the apco25 card installed. Is there anyway to decode these scrambled speech broadcasts? I had a radio in the past that had a speech descrambler board that worked with the old wireless motorola telephones and am wondering if this can be done with these digital conversations.

Thanks

--- In UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com, "dcps" <dcps <at> ...> wrote:
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> SCANNING palm beach county, florida sheriffs department
>
> sometimes I hear scrambling of conversion on my bc250d. I have the apco25 card installed. Is there anyway to decode these scrambled speech broadcasts? I had a radio in the past that had a speech descrambler board that worked with the old wireless motorola telephones and am wondering if this can be done with these digital conversations.
>
> Thanks
>

Actuly If you look on the Radio you should see sn "ENC" This meens the signal is encripted. I know all the Radios here in Lane County use a APCO P25 Trunked and with Motorola Encription. The only way to decript the signal is with a Motorola Decriptor, Thus the 250D is unable to do this. You should also know that decripting code is illegal

Check to see if PBCSO has gone to 'banding' of frequencies...as they have here in Rockdale County (GA). If they have, your BD250D...even with the apco24 card...is now useless for use on PBCSO transmissions. Uniden has a web site that has a list of scanners that are now useless on banded frequencies.

Ken

----- Original Message -----
From: dcps
To: UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:13 PM
Subject: [UnidenBC250D] currently scanning pbso in florida and often I hear scrambling need help

SCANNING palm beach county, florida sheriffs department

sometimes I hear scrambling of conversion on my bc250d. I have the apco25 card installed. Is there anyway to decode these scrambled speech broadcasts? I had a radio in the past that had a speech descrambler board that worked with the old wireless motorola telephones and am wondering if this can be done with these digital conversations.

Thanks

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I think you mean Re-Banding. As the band is already in place, its being
re-defined.

Re-Banding does not apply in his situation, as he can hear the system fine
and occasionally they use Encryption.

Scrambling and Encryption are different devices. Years ago a few companies
made low end modules that would allow a 2-way to use voice inversion, or
scrambling. Encryption is a higher level of protecting the communications.
It requires the user to have the proper key to decode the info.

As another emailer stated, decoding Encrypted transmissions is illegal.

So your not doing wrong as far as scanner wise, your picking up normal
traffic on the TRS, so the scanner is working, unfortunately theres nothing
that can be done scanner wise to monitor those communications.

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From: UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com [mailto:UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Weimer
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 8:22 PM
To: UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [UnidenBC250D] currently scanning pbso in florida and often I
hear scrambling need help

Check to see if PBCSO has gone to 'banding' of frequencies...as they have
here in Rockdale County (GA). If they have, your BD250D...even with the
apco24 card...is now useless for use on PBCSO transmissions. Uniden has a
web site that has a list of scanners that are now useless on banded
frequencies.

Ken

----- Original Message -----
From: dcps
To: UnidenBC250D <at> <mailto:UnidenBC250D%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:13 PM
Subject: [UnidenBC250D] currently scanning pbso in florida and often I hear
scrambling need help

SCANNING palm beach county, florida sheriffs department

sometimes I hear scrambling of conversion on my bc250d. I have the apco25
card installed. Is there anyway to decode these scrambled speech broadcasts?
I had a radio in the past that had a speech descrambler board that worked
with the old wireless motorola telephones and am wondering if this can be
done with these digital conversations.

Thanks

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--- In UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com, "dcps" <dcps <at> ...> wrote:
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> SCANNING palm beach county, florida sheriffs department
>
> sometimes I hear scrambling of conversion on my bc250d. I have the apco25 card installed. Is there anyway to decode these scrambled speech broadcasts? I had a radio in the past that had a speech descrambler board that worked with the old wireless motorola telephones and am wondering if this can be done with these digital conversations.
>
> Thanks
>
hi belive it or not i had a simuliar problem and found out my power adaptor was giving out low power i replaced it the problem sloved. .seeing i,am here would yah know where i can purchase a 25 apco card hopefully kinda cheap used thanks.

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Does anyone know the going rate for this radio WITHOUT the Apco module?

I have one is very good condition, along with the belt clip and battery charger, and I'm pretty sure I even have the manual for it...

I realize that without the APCO module it's less interesting, but I am wondering what it might be worth if I were to sell it...

Thanks all...

Bryan

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Oh, and I have the programming cable for it too.

--- In UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com, "n1llk" <n1llk <at> ...> wrote:
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> Does anyone know the going rate for this radio WITHOUT the Apco module?
>
> I have one is very good condition, along with the belt clip and battery charger, and I'm pretty sure I even have the manual for it...
>
> I realize that without the APCO module it's less interesting, but I am wondering what it might be worth if I were to sell it...
>
> Thanks all...
>
> Bryan
>

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--- In UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com, "n1llk" <n1llk <at> ...> wrote:
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> Does anyone know the going rate for this radio WITHOUT the Apco
module?
>
> I have one is very good condition, along with the belt clip and
battery charger, and I'm pretty sure I even have the manual for it...
>
> I realize that without the APCO module it's less interesting, but I am
wondering what it might be worth if I were to sell it...
>
> Thanks all...
>
> Bryan
>

i have bought a few lately average $100-$150.00 canadian.

The reason you can not get much for this scanner is due to the 800 MHz Public safety rebanding that is currently going on. This scanner is not a reprogrammable scanner and will only work in small areas that are still using 108MHz-512MHz range and that do not use the 800MHz band. So even if you had the digital card you still would not get much for this scanner. I would believe that $100-$150 would be about the best you will get for this even though it was $350 brand new. If you can find someone to give you more I would jump on the chance because the closer it gets to the total rebanding project being done the less you will get for this scanner.

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From: robert c <robbc49 <at> yahoo.com>
To: UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:33:27 AM
Subject: [UnidenBC250D] Re: BC250d sale value?

--- In UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups. com, "n1llk" <n1llk <at> ...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the going rate for this radio WITHOUT the Apco
module?
>
> I have one is very good condition, along with the belt clip and
battery charger, and I'm pretty sure I even have the manual for it...
>
> I realize that without the APCO module it's less interesting, but I am
wondering what it might be worth if I were to sell it...
>
> Thanks all...
>
> Bryan
>

i have bought a few lately average $100-$150.00 canadian.

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The 250D will still work fine on everything except rebanded Motorola
Analog systems. That includes 800 MHz for most system types.

It will still work on:
Everything outside 851-869 MHz (not just 108-512 as the quote says)
851-869 MHz non-rebanded Motorola Analog systems
851-869 MHz EDACS systems
851-869 MHz Conventional systems
851-869 MHz LTR systems (If it does LTR)

It won't track P25 systems which is more of an issue than not being able
to track rebanded Motorola Analog systems. Of course, it could never
track P25 systems. The card could only be used on P25 conventional and
P16 trunk systems that have P25 TGs.

All this said, I would agree with the $100-$150 price range. You
essentially have an analog-only scanner which can be purchased new for
$200 with Close Call and a lot of newer features. The 250D is 4
generations old.

If you had the P25 card, it might add $100 to the price.

Actually, the programming cable is the most valuable accessory and is a
huge selling point, as I'm not sure you can get them anymore.

Joe M.

joe mamma wrote:
> The reason you can not get much for this scanner is due to the 800 MHz Public safety rebanding that is currently going on. This scanner is not a reprogrammable scanner and will only work in small areas that are still using 108MHz-512MHz range and that do not use the 800MHz band. So even if you had the digital card you still would not get much for this scanner. I would believe that $100-$150 would be about the best you will get for this even though it was $350 brand new. If you can find someone to give you more I would jump on the chance because the closer it gets to the total rebanding project being done the less you will get for this scanner.
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> From: robert c <robbc49 <at> yahoo.com>
> To: UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:33:27 AM
> Subject: [UnidenBC250D] Re: BC250d sale value?
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> --- In UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups. com, "n1llk" <n1llk <at> ...> wrote:
>> Does anyone know the going rate for this radio WITHOUT the Apco
> module?
>> I have one is very good condition, along with the belt clip and
> battery charger, and I'm pretty sure I even have the manual for it...
>> I realize that without the APCO module it's less interesting, but I am
> wondering what it might be worth if I were to sell it...
>> Thanks all...
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>
> i have bought a few lately average $100-$150.00 canadian.
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