dcps | 21 Sep 01:13 2009
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currently scanning pbso in florida and often I hear scrambling need help

 

SCANNING palm beach county, florida sheriffs department

sometimes I hear scrambling of conversion on my bc250d. I have the apco25 card installed. Is there anyway to decode these scrambled speech broadcasts? I had a radio in the past that had a speech descrambler board that worked with the old wireless motorola telephones and am wondering if this can be done with these digital conversations.

Thanks

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    ke7qoj | 21 Sep 02:21 2009
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    Re: currently scanning pbso in florida and often I hear scrambling need help

     

    --- In UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com, "dcps" <dcps <at> ...> wrote:
    >
    > SCANNING palm beach county, florida sheriffs department
    >
    > sometimes I hear scrambling of conversion on my bc250d. I have the apco25 card installed. Is there anyway to decode these scrambled speech broadcasts? I had a radio in the past that had a speech descrambler board that worked with the old wireless motorola telephones and am wondering if this can be done with these digital conversations.
    >
    > Thanks
    >

    Actuly If you look on the Radio you should see sn "ENC" This meens the signal is encripted. I know all the Radios here in Lane County use a APCO P25 Trunked and with Motorola Encription. The only way to decript the signal is with a Motorola Decriptor, Thus the 250D is unable to do this. You should also know that decripting code is illegal

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      Ken Weimer | 21 Sep 03:21 2009
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      Re: currently scanning pbso in florida and often I hear scrambling need help

       

      Check to see if PBCSO has gone to 'banding' of frequencies...as they have here in Rockdale County (GA). If they have, your BD250D...even with the apco24 card...is now useless for use on PBCSO transmissions. Uniden has a web site that has a list of scanners that are now useless on banded frequencies.

      Ken

      ----- Original Message -----
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      Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:13 PM
      Subject: [UnidenBC250D] currently scanning pbso in florida and often I hear scrambling need help

      SCANNING palm beach county, florida sheriffs department

      sometimes I hear scrambling of conversion on my bc250d. I have the apco25 card installed. Is there anyway to decode these scrambled speech broadcasts? I had a radio in the past that had a speech descrambler board that worked with the old wireless motorola telephones and am wondering if this can be done with these digital conversations.

      Thanks

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        Patrick - Used 2-Way | 21 Sep 16:14 2009
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        RE: currently scanning pbso in florida and often I hear scrambling need help

         

        I think you mean Re-Banding. As the band is already in place, its being
        re-defined.

        Re-Banding does not apply in his situation, as he can hear the system fine
        and occasionally they use Encryption.

        Scrambling and Encryption are different devices. Years ago a few companies
        made low end modules that would allow a 2-way to use voice inversion, or
        scrambling. Encryption is a higher level of protecting the communications.
        It requires the user to have the proper key to decode the info.

        As another emailer stated, decoding Encrypted transmissions is illegal.

        So your not doing wrong as far as scanner wise, your picking up normal
        traffic on the TRS, so the scanner is working, unfortunately theres nothing
        that can be done scanner wise to monitor those communications.

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        From: UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com [mailto:UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com] On
        Behalf Of Ken Weimer
        Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 8:22 PM
        To: UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [UnidenBC250D] currently scanning pbso in florida and often I
        hear scrambling need help

        Check to see if PBCSO has gone to 'banding' of frequencies...as they have
        here in Rockdale County (GA). If they have, your BD250D...even with the
        apco24 card...is now useless for use on PBCSO transmissions. Uniden has a
        web site that has a list of scanners that are now useless on banded
        frequencies.

        Ken

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: dcps
        To: UnidenBC250D <at> <mailto:UnidenBC250D%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:13 PM
        Subject: [UnidenBC250D] currently scanning pbso in florida and often I hear
        scrambling need help

        SCANNING palm beach county, florida sheriffs department

        sometimes I hear scrambling of conversion on my bc250d. I have the apco25
        card installed. Is there anyway to decode these scrambled speech broadcasts?
        I had a radio in the past that had a speech descrambler board that worked
        with the old wireless motorola telephones and am wondering if this can be
        done with these digital conversations.

        Thanks

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          robert c | 24 Sep 15:05 2009
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          Re: currently scanning pbso in florida and often I hear scrambling need help

           

          --- In UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com, "dcps" <dcps <at> ...> wrote:
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          > SCANNING palm beach county, florida sheriffs department
          >
          > sometimes I hear scrambling of conversion on my bc250d. I have the apco25 card installed. Is there anyway to decode these scrambled speech broadcasts? I had a radio in the past that had a speech descrambler board that worked with the old wireless motorola telephones and am wondering if this can be done with these digital conversations.
          >
          > Thanks
          >
          hi belive it or not i had a simuliar problem and found out my power adaptor was giving out low power i replaced it the problem sloved. .seeing i,am here would yah know where i can purchase a 25 apco card hopefully kinda cheap used thanks.

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          n1llk | 28 Sep 15:56 2009
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          BC250d sale value?

           

          Does anyone know the going rate for this radio WITHOUT the Apco module?

          I have one is very good condition, along with the belt clip and battery charger, and I'm pretty sure I even have the manual for it...

          I realize that without the APCO module it's less interesting, but I am wondering what it might be worth if I were to sell it...

          Thanks all...

          Bryan

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          n1llk | 28 Sep 16:06 2009
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          Re: BC250d sale value?

           

          Oh, and I have the programming cable for it too.

          --- In UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com, "n1llk" <n1llk <at> ...> wrote:
          >
          > Does anyone know the going rate for this radio WITHOUT the Apco module?
          >
          > I have one is very good condition, along with the belt clip and battery charger, and I'm pretty sure I even have the manual for it...
          >
          > I realize that without the APCO module it's less interesting, but I am wondering what it might be worth if I were to sell it...
          >
          > Thanks all...
          >
          > Bryan
          >

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          robert c | 30 Sep 14:33 2009
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          Re: BC250d sale value?

           



          --- In UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com, "n1llk" <n1llk <at> ...> wrote:
          >
          > Does anyone know the going rate for this radio WITHOUT the Apco
          module?
          >
          > I have one is very good condition, along with the belt clip and
          battery charger, and I'm pretty sure I even have the manual for it...
          >
          > I realize that without the APCO module it's less interesting, but I am
          wondering what it might be worth if I were to sell it...
          >
          > Thanks all...
          >
          > Bryan
          >

          i have bought a few lately average $100-$150.00 canadian.

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            joe mamma | 30 Sep 15:23 2009
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            Re: Re: BC250d sale value?

             

            The reason you can not get much for this scanner is due to the 800 MHz Public safety rebanding that is currently going on. This scanner is not a reprogrammable scanner and will only work in small areas that are still using 108MHz-512MHz range and that do not use the 800MHz band. So even if you had the digital card you still would not get much for this scanner. I would believe that $100-$150 would be about the best you will get for this even though it was $350 brand new. If you can find someone to give you more I would jump on the chance because the closer it gets to the total rebanding project being done the less you will get for this scanner.

            ________________________________
            From: robert c <robbc49 <at> yahoo.com>
            To: UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:33:27 AM
            Subject: [UnidenBC250D] Re: BC250d sale value?

            --- In UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups. com, "n1llk" <n1llk <at> ...> wrote:
            >
            > Does anyone know the going rate for this radio WITHOUT the Apco
            module?
            >
            > I have one is very good condition, along with the belt clip and
            battery charger, and I'm pretty sure I even have the manual for it...
            >
            > I realize that without the APCO module it's less interesting, but I am
            wondering what it might be worth if I were to sell it...
            >
            > Thanks all...
            >
            > Bryan
            >

            i have bought a few lately average $100-$150.00 canadian.

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              MCH | 30 Sep 19:23 2009
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              Re: Re: BC250d sale value?

               

              The 250D will still work fine on everything except rebanded Motorola
              Analog systems. That includes 800 MHz for most system types.

              It will still work on:
              Everything outside 851-869 MHz (not just 108-512 as the quote says)
              851-869 MHz non-rebanded Motorola Analog systems
              851-869 MHz EDACS systems
              851-869 MHz Conventional systems
              851-869 MHz LTR systems (If it does LTR)

              It won't track P25 systems which is more of an issue than not being able
              to track rebanded Motorola Analog systems. Of course, it could never
              track P25 systems. The card could only be used on P25 conventional and
              P16 trunk systems that have P25 TGs.

              All this said, I would agree with the $100-$150 price range. You
              essentially have an analog-only scanner which can be purchased new for
              $200 with Close Call and a lot of newer features. The 250D is 4
              generations old.

              If you had the P25 card, it might add $100 to the price.

              Actually, the programming cable is the most valuable accessory and is a
              huge selling point, as I'm not sure you can get them anymore.

              Joe M.

              joe mamma wrote:
              > The reason you can not get much for this scanner is due to the 800 MHz Public safety rebanding that is currently going on. This scanner is not a reprogrammable scanner and will only work in small areas that are still using 108MHz-512MHz range and that do not use the 800MHz band. So even if you had the digital card you still would not get much for this scanner. I would believe that $100-$150 would be about the best you will get for this even though it was $350 brand new. If you can find someone to give you more I would jump on the chance because the closer it gets to the total rebanding project being done the less you will get for this scanner.
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > ________________________________
              > From: robert c <robbc49 <at> yahoo.com>
              > To: UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:33:27 AM
              > Subject: [UnidenBC250D] Re: BC250d sale value?
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > --- In UnidenBC250D <at> yahoogroups. com, "n1llk" <n1llk <at> ...> wrote:
              >> Does anyone know the going rate for this radio WITHOUT the Apco
              > module?
              >> I have one is very good condition, along with the belt clip and
              > battery charger, and I'm pretty sure I even have the manual for it...
              >> I realize that without the APCO module it's less interesting, but I am
              > wondering what it might be worth if I were to sell it...
              >> Thanks all...
              >>
              >> Bryan
              >>
              >
              > i have bought a few lately average $100-$150.00 canadian.
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              >
              >
              >
              >
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              > If you have come here to find out about the 250D you have come to the right place! In fact the discussion of the BC-250D and how it works is the only acceptable topic on this list. Any discussion about anything other than the BC-250D is OFF TOPIC. I hope this is clear to all group members..Yahoo! Groups Links
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