Thor Carlson | 1 Jul 2010 01:48
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Re: Sonett vintage car radio



3 FM buttons.   Nice!


On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:21 PM, sonett3_72 <m.hilvers-epUZmem76+ebyly6AaOUig@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Ever seen this before? An original Saab Sonett car radio (by Grundig);
http://www.oldtimerautoradio.nl/a-11632450/saab/zeldzaam-nos-radio-voor-saab-sonnet



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Derek | 1 Jul 2010 13:41
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Looks like a Blaupunkt to me. Only goes to 104 on FM so Euro market.

 

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Eric P | 1 Jul 2010 20:32
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Sonett Alignment Specs



So, I just took my Sonett out to get a wheel alignment from the same tire shop that installed my Contis about 2 years ago (Town Fair Tire -- for anyone in New England who might know the chain).

I asked how long it would take and the guy at the counter said, "For that? [sigh] An hour? What is it?...That's a Saab?"  To which I responded, "An hour?  It took the guys half that to install 4 new tires and do an alignment two years ago!"  He told me that a normal alignment shouldn't take more than 20 minutes but he wasn't sure what was involved.  After reassuring him about the ease of the job, he said, "Okay then figure 20 minutes as long as I can get the specs for the car."

Everyone behind the counter went all "deer in the headlights" on us.

Turns out the only specs they have on hand for a vintage Saab are for the 99.  They said they'd try to locate the specs and call me.  I'm not expecting much here.  Is it safe to assume that the specs are in the Sonett III Supplement to the Factory Service Manual in case I need to provide them?  What perplexes me most is how they were supposedly able to do the wheel alignment two years ago when I bought the tires?!

-Eric

P.S. Some guy in a modified Passat (B5) videoed a few minutes of my trek to the shop on his cell phone.  Look for me on YouTube, I guess. lol



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Lester | 1 Jul 2010 20:55
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Re: Sonett Alignment Specs



For performance get 3/4 degree neg camber, 2 1/2 degree pos caster and 0 toe.  For less than performance, go 1/2 neg camber and 2 degrees caster or is it castor.. whatever..

BTW it's done with the SAAB specific shims.  Always save those when you trash a car.  Or with GM shims which are everywhere..

Lester


On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Eric P wrote:



So, I just took my Sonett out to get a wheel alignment from the same tire shop that installed my Contis about 2 years ago (Town Fair Tire -- for anyone in New England who might know the chain).

I asked how long it would take and the guy at the counte r said, "For that? [sigh] An hour? What is it?...That's a Saab?"  To which I responded, "An hour?  It took the guys half that to install 4 new tires and do an alignment two years ago!"  He told me that a normal alignment shouldn't take more than 20 minutes but he wasn't sure what was involved.  After reassuring him about the ease of the job, he said, "Okay then figure 20 minutes as long as I can get the specs for the car."

Everyone behind the counter went all "deer in the headlights" on us.

Turns out the only specs they have on hand for a vintage Saab are for the 99.  They said they'd try to locate the specs and call me.  I'm not expecting much here.  Is it safe to assume that the specs are in the Sonett III Supplement to the Factory Servi ce Manual in case I need to provide them?  What perplexes me most is how they were supposedly able to do the wheel alignment two years ago when I bought the tires?!

-Eric

P.S. Some guy in a modified Passat (B5) videoed a few minutes of my trek to the shop on his cell phone.  Look for me on YouTube, I guess. lol






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MH | 1 Jul 2010 21:14
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Re: Sonett Alignment Specs

> ...What perplexes me most is how they were supposedly able 
> to do the wheel alignment two years ago when I bought the tires?!

They used to do it with wires, dumpy levels and an alignment gauge. Now they 
have a computer.

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MH

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Andy Peterson | 1 Jul 2010 22:33
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Re: Sonett Alignment Specs

On 7/1/2010 11:32 AM, Eric P wrote:
> Everyone behind the counter went all "deer in the headlights" on us.

Pisses me off that nobody knows how to do anything anymore with out a 
damn computer ... and they still call themselves "mechanics".

Same deal with the people behind the parts counter. They can't do 
anything if they don't have the specific year/make/model of the car 
you're working on, even if the part you want isn't for that car and you 
have no idea what car uses it.

(Try getting a 30mm plug for the fan bearing opening from a parts store 
without giving them a specific application that uses it. BTW, it's a 
Nissan part, but I don't know for which engine.)

> Turns out the only specs they have on hand for a vintage Saab are for
> the 99. They said they'd try to locate the specs and call me. I'm not
> expecting much here. Is it safe to assume that the specs are in the
> Sonett III Supplement to the Factory Service Manual in case I need to
> provide them? What perplexes me most is how they were supposedly able to
> do the wheel alignment two years ago when I bought the tires?!

Specs are in the manual, but Lester's right about adding some Camber. 
The specs call for 0° +/- 1/4°.
Caster is 2° +/- 1/2°.
Toe-in  1mm (.04")

Andy in PDX OR

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Eric P | 2 Jul 2010 17:09
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Re: Sonett Alignment Specs



Thanks for the responses, everyone!  I'm not expecting a call back so for a little better performance, I'll tell them 3/4° neg camber, caster 2° +/- 1/2°, and toe 1mm (.04") -- assuming I got the advice right! :)

I hope everyone celebrating has a happy and safe holiday weekend!

-Eric

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On 7/1/2010 11:32 AM, Eric P wrote:
> Everyone behind the counter went all "deer in the headlights" on us.

Pisses me off that nobody knows how to do anything anymore with out a
damn computer ... and they still call themselves "mechanics".

Same deal with the people behind the parts counter. They can't do
anything if they don't have the specific year/make/model of the car
you're working on, even if the part you want isn't for that car and you
have no idea what car uses it.

(Try getting a 30mm plug for the fan bearing opening from a parts store
without giving them a specific application that uses it. BTW, it's a
Nissan part, but I don't know for which engine.)

> Turns out the only specs they have on hand for a vintage Saab are for
> the 99. They said they'd try to locate the specs and call me. I'm not
> expecting much here. Is it safe to assume that the specs are in the
> Sonett III Supplement to the Factory Service Manual in case I need to
> provide them? What perplexes me most is how they were supposedly able to
> do the wheel alignment two years ago when I bought the tires?!

Specs are in the manual, but Lester's right about adding some Camber.
The specs call for 0° +/- 1/4°.
Caster is 2° +/- 1/2°.
Toe-in 1mm (.04")

Andy in PDX OR




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Charles Gould | 3 Jul 2010 15:26

Don't miss Gould's Microcar Classic on July 9, 10 & 11, 2010! Less than six days till the party begins!



Gould's Fifteenth Annual Microcar Classic Event is now only six days away! Don't miss this amazing Microcar & Minicar event!
This is shaping up to be a fantastic event, with loads of interesting cars and people. This event features no less than four microtours including our 120 mile long tour on Sunday! Be sure to come with a full tank of Petroil as you will drive farther in this event than you have ever driven your microcar before. If you are timid, hitch a ride in another interesting microcar. 
Friday's wine, cheese, and hors d'hoeurve arrival reception will blow you away, with all of Marsha Judson's amazing creations. You ain't never ate food like this at a car meet before. Just ask Rimspoke! The camaraderie will last long into the evening as enthusiasts and owners tell tales about their personal microcar addiction, and the acquisition of the cars in their collections. Libations tend to remove inhibitions, and create extreme exaggeration. The entire neighborhood will be buzzing with activity as we provide two stroke mosquito control with our tiny little cars. This will be the time for our crew of cer tified microcar mechanics to help you chase away any mechanical gremlins before the real fun begins on Saturday morning. 
Saturday will begin with Peet's high test coffee and tons of bagels, pastries and croissants while registration continues as new guests arrive with their microcars. This is an exceptional opportunity to see all of the unusual cars and people, and to partake of Gould's Sale of Particularly Eclectic Novelty Devices (G-SPEND), which will feature microcar books, toys, and Wendy Costa's amazing microcar designs on T-Shirts, mugs, tote bags, and other apparel. Just wait till you see Wendy's design for this y ear, and we will have all past year's designs available for purchase as well. Don't miss out on the famous Monopoly design which was banned, so when these are sold, they are all gone! 
Saturday's short tour is a five mile parade to the beautiful lush green lawns of the Larz Anderson Museum of Transportation. This is the oldest automobile museum in the country being started by Larz and Isabella Anderson, who traveled the world collecting unusual automobiles in the late 1800's. The collection is housed in a gorgeous 1888 brick carriage house, and this year's exhibit is entitled Curve Appeal, and features some of the most cu rvaceous automobiles that you have ever seen including a Delahay and a Stout Scarab! The entire afternoon will be buzzing with the sounds and smells of two strokes as we give rides in the microcars to a huge gathering of enthusiasts and families who come out in droves for this event, which is the only car shows where the spectators can get to ride in the show cars! Unlike most "Park & Polish" car shows on hot asphalt parking lots, this is an afternoon of dynamic microcars in motion on lush green lawns. There will be an awards ceremony in which awards will be distributed on over 20 categories including longest distance traveled to attend the event with your microcar or minicar, followed by a parade back to the Gould's where we will begin our eclectic barbecue with ethnic foods from al l over the globe, and our world famous Blue Ribbon Memphis Barbecue! 
After we polish off another fantastic meal, we will depart for our evening scenic mircotour though the bucolic neighborhood so Newton to our destination at J.P. Liks ice cream parlour, where we can show off our tiny travel pods to a fresh audience of microcar enthusiasts, who wait all year for this display of whimsical modes of transportation. Then back to the Gould's for Charles' world famous two stroke frozen margarita party which will continue late into the night with mad competitions of "Fluffy Bunny" and other fun games. 
Sunday begins with more Peet's coffee, bagels, pastries and croissants before we depart on our long 120 mile tour to Wachusett Mountain. Although the mountain road is closed again this year, we will have many very interesting sights and destinations along the way, and will have lunch at the wonderful Mountain Barn Restaurant, before returning to the Gould's Matchbox Motors Microcar & Minicar Museum, where all of the unfinished and derelict projects are stored, and where you can view all of the cars from the collection that just did not make it to the event this year. Who knows, if Chas is frustrated enough with one of the projects, he might ev en consider selling it! Then back to the Gould's to cool our tired dogs in ice water, and have a microbrew or three before going back to the hotel to freshen up for our farewell dinner at a great authentic Mexican outdoor cantina. 
We guaranty that you will not be bored during this event as we never stop moving, except to eat! The entire weekend is chock full of microcar lunacy and activities, and this is one of the few car events that wives, girlfriends and kids enjoy as much as the guys, because there is so much social activity, and the guests are so fun and interesting. We have the Gould's Certified Roadside Assistance program (G-CRAP) which includes several trailers on retrieval vehicles and a crew of six certified microcar mechanics to keep your little cars running sweet all weekend long, and can usually accomplish trailer retrievals and repairs in time for you not to miss the next activity. We have the Gould's Seats & Asses Program (G-SAAP), which means that you can ride in microcars all weekend long even if you don't bring your own, although it is much more fun to have your own car here. 
If you have not previously attended the Microcar Classic, you have never been to an event like this. I personally guaranty that you will have the most fun that you have ever had at any automotive event, or we will refund your registration fee, which includes all three days of activities, both Friday and Saturday evening incredible feeds, and Saturday and Sunday continental breakfast with coffee, pasties, bagels and croissants, as well as all of the microbrews, wine, margaritas, bottled water and soft drinks all weekend long. 
The registration fee also includes museum admission, and the G-SAAP , and G-CRAP programs. Although the Sheraton Hotel rate of only $85.00 per night is currently sold out, we did book an extra four rooms, which are still available to the first four parties who call or email me to grab them. You can get all of the details, photos and registration information at www.bubbledrome.com, or by emailing Charles & Nancy Gould at chasgould-ee4meeAH724@public.gmane.org 
We are really looking forward to seeing all of you again next weekend!
Charles & Nancy Gould


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Andy Peterson | 4 Jul 2010 01:44
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Sonett in Eastern Washington state

No knowledge of this car. It's near Pullman WA/Moscow ID. Coming form 
the Palouse, it's probably rust-free.

http://pullman.craigslist.org/pts/1803034589.html

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takpt4 | 4 Jul 2010 15:59
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Re: Don't miss Gould's Microcar Classic on July 9, 10 & 11, 2010! Less than six days till the party begins!

This maybe a silly question but where is this event being held ?

--- In vSAAB@..., Charles Gould <chasgould <at> ...> wrote:
>
> Gould's Fifteenth Annual Microcar Classic Event is now only six days  
> away! Don't miss this amazing Microcar & Minicar event!
> This is shaping up to be a fantastic event, with loads of interesting  
> cars and people. This event features no less than four microtours  
> including our 120 mile long tour on Sunday! Be sure to come with a  
> full tank of Petroil as you will drive farther in this event than you  
> have ever driven your microcar before. If you are timid, hitch a ride  
> in another interesting microcar.
> Friday's wine, cheese, and hors d'hoeurve arrival reception will blow  
> you away, with all of Marsha Judson's amazing creations. You ain't  
> never ate food like this at a car meet before. Just ask Rimspoke! The  
> camaraderie will last long into the evening as enthusiasts and owners  
> tell tales about their personal microcar addiction, and the  
> acquisition of the cars in their collections. Libations tend to remove  
> inhibitions, and create extreme exaggeration. The entire neighborhood  
> will be buzzing with activity as we provide two stroke mosquito  
> control with our tiny little cars. This will be the time for our crew  
> of certified microcar mechanics to help you chase away any mechanical  
> gremlins before the real fun begins on Saturday morning.
> Saturday will begin with Peet's high test coffee and tons of bagels,  
> pastries and croissants while registration continues as new guests  
> arrive with their microcars. This is an exceptional opportunity to see  
> all of the unusual cars and people, and to partake of Gould's Sale of  
> Particularly Eclectic Novelty Devices (G-SPEND), which will feature  
> microcar books, toys, and Wendy Costa's amazing microcar designs on T- 
> Shirts, mugs, tote bags, and other apparel. Just wait till you see  
> Wendy's design for this year, and we will have all past year's designs  
> available for purchase as well. Don't miss out on the famous Monopoly  
> design which was banned, so when these are sold, they are all gone!
> Saturday's short tour is a five mile parade to the beautiful lush  
> green lawns of the Larz Anderson Museum of Transportation. This is the  
> oldest automobile museum in the country being started by Larz and  
> Isabella Anderson, who traveled the world collecting unusual  
> automobiles in the late 1800's. The collection is housed in a gorgeous  
> 1888 brick carriage house, and this year's exhibit is entitled Curve  
> Appeal, and features some of the most curvaceous automobiles that you  
> have ever seen including a Delahay and a Stout Scarab! The entire  
> afternoon will be buzzing with the sounds and smells of two strokes as  
> we give rides in the microcars to a huge gathering of enthusiasts and  
> families who come out in droves for this event, which is the only car  
> shows where the spectators can get to ride in the show cars! Unlike  
> most "Park & Polish" car shows on hot asphalt parking lots, this is an  
> afternoon of dynamic microcars in motion on lush green lawns. There  
> will be an awards ceremony in which awards will be distributed on over  
> 20 categories including longest distance traveled to attend the event  
> with your microcar or minicar, followed by a parade back to the  
> Gould's where we will begin our eclectic barbecue with ethnic foods  
> from all over the globe, and our world famous Blue Ribbon Memphis  
> Barbecue!
> After we polish off another fantastic meal, we will depart for our  
> evening scenic mircotour though the bucolic neighborhood so Newton to  
> our destination at J.P. Liks ice cream parlour, where we can show off  
> our tiny travel pods to a fresh audience of microcar enthusiasts, who  
> wait all year for this display of whimsical modes of transportation.  
> Then back to the Gould's for Charles' world famous two stroke frozen  
> margarita party which will continue late into the night with mad  
> competitions of "Fluffy Bunny" and other fun games.
> Sunday begins with more Peet's coffee, bagels, pastries and croissants  
> before we depart on our long 120 mile tour to Wachusett Mountain.  
> Although the mountain road is closed again this year, we will have  
> many very interesting sights and destinations along the way, and will  
> have lunch at the wonderful Mountain Barn Restaurant, before returning  
> to the Gould's Matchbox Motors Microcar & Minicar Museum, where all of  
> the unfinished and derelict projects are stored, and where you can  
> view all of the cars from the collection that just did not make it to  
> the event this year. Who knows, if Chas is frustrated enough with one  
> of the projects, he might even consider selling it! Then back to the  
> Gould's to cool our tired dogs in ice water, and have a microbrew or  
> three before going back to the hotel to freshen up for our farewell  
> dinner at a great authentic Mexican outdoor cantina.
> We guaranty that you will not be bored during this event as we never  
> stop moving, except to eat! The entire weekend is chock full of  
> microcar lunacy and activities, and this is one of the few car events  
> that wives, girlfriends and kids enjoy as much as the guys, because  
> there is so much social activity, and the guests are so fun and  
> interesting. We have the Gould's Certified Roadside Assistance program  
> (G-CRAP) which includes several trailers on retrieval vehicles and a  
> crew of six certified microcar mechanics to keep your little cars  
> running sweet all weekend long, and can usually accomplish trailer  
> retrievals and repairs in time for you not to miss the next activity.  
> We have the Gould's Seats & Asses Program (G-SAAP), which means that  
> you can ride in microcars all weekend long even if you don't bring  
> your own, although it is much more fun to have your own car here.
> If you have not previously attended the Microcar Classic, you have  
> never been to an event like this. I personally guaranty that you will  
> have the most fun that you have ever had at any automotive event, or  
> we will refund your registration fee, which includes all three days of  
> activities, both Friday and Saturday evening incredible feeds, and  
> Saturday and Sunday continental breakfast with coffee, pasties, bagels  
> and croissants, as well as all of the microbrews, wine, margaritas,  
> bottled water and soft drinks all weekend long.
> The registration fee also includes museum admission, and the G-SAAP ,  
> and G-CRAP programs. Although the Sheraton Hotel rate of only $85.00  
> per night is currently sold out, we did book an extra four rooms,  
> which are still available to the first four parties who call or email  
> me to grab them. You can get all of the details, photos and  
> registration information at www.bubbledrome.com, or by emailing  
> Charles & Nancy Gould at chasgould <at> ...
> We are really looking forward to seeing all of you again next weekend!
> Charles & Nancy Gould
>

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