Adrian Stott | 1 Dec 10:27 2009
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Re: BW's investment portfolio

Bob Wood <bobdotwood@...> wrote:

>2009/11/30 Adrian Stott <reply@...>:
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>> Nick <canallist@...> wrote:
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>>>>  QWANGO charged with the task of preserving tracts of national heritage?
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>2009/11/30 Adrian Stott <reply@...>:
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>> BTW, I think it's usually spelt "Quango".
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>Or even 'QANGO' !

But it's pronounced "kwango".  Your spelling would be pronounced
"kango" wouldn't it? <now *there's* an opening ...>

Adrian

Adrian Stott
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Captain Beeky | 1 Dec 11:28 2009
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Re: Re: BW's investment portfolio


On 1 Dec 2009, at 09:27, Adrian Stott wrote:

> Bob Wood <bobdotwood@...> wrote:
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>> 2009/11/30 Adrian Stott <reply@...>:
>>
>>> Nick <canallist@...> wrote:
>>
>>>>> QWANGO charged with the task of preserving tracts of national  
>>>>> heritage?
>>
>>
>> 2009/11/30 Adrian Stott <reply@...>:
>>
>>> BTW, I think it's usually spelt "Quango".
>>
>>
>> Or even 'QANGO' !
>
> But it's pronounced "kwango".

Or QWANGO would be near enough for me.

Beeky
nb Mulberry Bush

PS If one refers to the Automobile Association as they used to be  
named, should one pronounce as "ah". As in "my car broke down and I  
had to be rescued by the "ah" " 
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bloovee | 1 Dec 11:54 2009

Re: BW's investment portfolio

Quango? Labour said they'd get rid of quangos. They are now NDPBs, non-departmental government bodies.

http://www.civilservice.gov.uk/about/resources/public-bodies.aspx

Steve

--- In canals-list@..., Adrian Stott <reply <at> ...> wrote:
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> Bob Wood <bobdotwood <at> ...> wrote:
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> >2009/11/30 Adrian Stott <reply <at> ...>:
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> >> Nick <canallist <at> ...> wrote:
> >
> >>>>  QWANGO charged with the task of preserving tracts of national heritage?
> >
> >
> >2009/11/30 Adrian Stott <reply <at> ...>:
> >
> >> BTW, I think it's usually spelt "Quango".
> >
> >
> >Or even 'QANGO' !
> 
> But it's pronounced "kwango".  Your spelling would be pronounced
> "kango" wouldn't it? <now *there's* an opening ...>
> 
> Adrian
> 
> Adrian Stott
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bloovee | 1 Dec 11:48 2009

Re: BW Funding today

All now available on Hansard (scroll to column 944)

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmhansrd/cm091130/debtext/91130-0022.htm 

Steve

--- In canals-list@..., "Big John" <john <at> ...> wrote:
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> Well that was a guaranteed way to raise one's blood pressure:
> Don't politicians know how to deliver a speech any more?
> Followed by a load of empty words from HMG's spokesman who knows what the issue is
> and
> NO-ONE from the opposition benches is apparently interested in our waterways
>

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Steve Wood | 1 Dec 13:52 2009

Uttoxeter Canal Outline Feasibility Study published

A quick plug for significant news from the Caldon & Uttoxeter Canals Trust:

The Caldon & Uttoxeter Canals Trust (CUCT) has taken delivery of the 
“Uttoxeter Canal Restoration Outline Feasibility Study.” The study was 
commissioned by Staffordshire County Council and the Trust to: 
“determine whether the restoration of the Uttoxeter Canal between the 
Caldon Canal at Froghall to the north and Uttoxeter Gravel Pits to the 
south is a feasible project.”

The report, which has taken some six months to compile and runs to over 
70 pages, was undertaken by consulting engineers Halcrow Group Ltd. 
Challenges such as restoring the canal through the villages of Oakamoor 
and Denstone – where the original line is built over - are explored, 
with various possible solutions considered. The study also looks at 
environmental issues along the route and the potential economic impact 
of restoration. Finally, it estimates the cost of the project.

Halcrow concluded that the restoration is a viable project from an 
engineering point of view. There are various obstructions, but none are 
insurmountable. Cost estimates for full restoration and new construction 
works are in the region of £90m, however much of the restoration work 
could be undertaken by volunteers.

More at:
<http://www.cuct.org.uk/news/091201_uttoxeter_canal_restoration_feasibility_study_published.shtml>

We've also got a big exhibition mostly about the study in Uttoxeter 
Heritage Centre until the end of January, which may be of interest if 
anyone is passing that part of the world.

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Brian on Harnser | 1 Dec 13:57 2009

Re: BW Funding today

bloovee presented the following explanation :
> All now available on Hansard (scroll to column 944)
>
>
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmhansrd/cm091130/debtext/91130-0022.htm 
>
> Steve
>
>
> --- In canals-list@..., "Big John" 
> <john <at> ...> wrote:
>> 
>> Well that was a guaranteed way to raise one's blood pressure:
>> Don't politicians know how to deliver a speech any more?
>> Followed by a load of empty words from HMG's spokesman who knows what the 
>> issue is and
>> NO-ONE from the opposition benches is apparently interested in our waterways
>> 
One point he did make was that as BW saved a quid the money they 
receive would also drop. The efficiency savings offset loss of grant.

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Brian traveling on Harnser
 http://nbharnser.blogspot.com/

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Nigel Stanley | 1 Dec 14:24 2009
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Re: Re: BW's investment portfolio

2009/12/1 bloovee <s.parish17@...>:
> Quango? Labour said they'd get rid of quangos. They are now NDPBs, non-departmental government bodies.
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> http://www.civilservice.gov.uk/about/resources/public-bodies.aspx
>
> Steve
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>

And British Waterways is neither a quango, nor an NDPB, but a
nationalised industry. (Not many of those left!)

Of course it wants to become a 'third sector' organisation like the
National Trust - also not a quango.

I don't know why politicians make periodic assaults on quangos. Many
of them seem entirely blameless to me.

Though of course Ruper Murdoch doesn't much like Ofcom as it regulates
the media industry.

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Nigel Stanley

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Nigel Stanley | 1 Dec 14:40 2009
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Re: BW's investment portfolio

2009/11/26 Adrian Stott <reply@...>:
> However, if I were to place a bet, I would go for "much more unsafe
> under Labour than under Conservative".
>

I'm not sure that argument is sustainable.

It's the Conservatives that want to slash the deficit quickly and say
they will make big spending cuts. I wouldn't fancy BW's chances in
that - though a good minister might spare some of the pain. The level
of tax payer support remains the most important issue.

BW didn't do very well last time they were in power.

Many Conservatives instinctively dislike the state owning things -
which is how they view BW. And I'm fairly sure that BW's desire to
move to the third sector is mostly motivated by preparation for a
possible new government.

That's not to say I would be complacent about BW under any government
after the recession has played havoc with the public finances.

We were very lucky around the turn of the century with new sources of
funding such as the lottery, growing public spending, a recognition of
waterways as a source of regeneration, supportive ministers and David
Fletcher at BW. It's unlikely to happen again. We will need to be very
vigilant at all times.

I agree with Adrian's scepticism about petitions, although a badly
supported petition can actively do harm so I've signed it too. (That
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Ian Cardinal | 1 Dec 14:45 2009
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Not quite the point, I know, but so did Mrs T. She came in in 1979, all set
to abolish QANGOS at the double. During her time they multiplied, and so in
1997, New labour came in to cut down on QANGOs.....and so it goes on

Ian Cardinal
aka Norman the Narrowboat  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: canals-list@... 
> [mailto:canals-list@...] On Behalf Of bloovee
> Sent: 01 December 2009 10:54
> To: canals-list@...
> Subject: [canals-list] Re: BW's investment portfolio
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> Quango? Labour said they'd get rid of quangos. They are now 
> NDPBs, non-departmental government bodies.
> 
> http://www.civilservice.gov.uk/about/resources/public-bodies.aspx
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> --- In canals-list@..., Adrian Stott <reply <at> ...> wrote:
> >
> > Bob Wood <bobdotwood <at> ...> wrote:
> > 
> > >2009/11/30 Adrian Stott <reply <at> ...>:
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> > >> Nick <canallist <at> ...> wrote:
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Martin Clark | 1 Dec 16:18 2009
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Re: BW's investment portfolio

Nigel Stanley wrote:
> 2009/11/26 Adrian Stott <reply@...>:
>> However, if I were to place a bet, I would go for "much more unsafe
>> under Labour than under Conservative".

> It's the Conservatives that want to slash the deficit quickly and say
> they will make big spending cuts. I wouldn't fancy BW's chances in
> that - though a good minister might spare some of the pain.

The Conservative benches were empty during last night's waterways 
funding debate, which might be said to show the level of interest that 
Conservatives have...
Photo: http://is.gd/591HM

> I agree with Adrian's scepticism about petitions, although a badly
> supported petition can actively do harm so I've signed it too. (That
> seems to be IWA's position).
> 
> And of course asking people to sign something is an excellent way of
> making people aware of a campaign and drawing them into possible
> follow-up activities.

Over 15,000 names on the petition and still rising.
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Martin Clark

Pennine Waterways Website    http://www.penninewaterways.co.uk

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