Steve Hayes | 1 Dec 2007 18:28
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Re: Over winter Moorings BW Sites

BW are very good at doing that on the Witham as well.  All the boats near the Grand Sluice in Boston have to move
over the winter in case one breaks free and blocks the sluice.  This means that a number are usually moved up
to Bardney.  At one of the user group meetings this was discussed and BW even suggested that another mooring
at Fiskerton Nature Reserve could be used for those wintering.  They were most put out when I suggested that
they shouldn't use it as it was a mooring put in for the EA who run the reserve and people might like to cruise
down there in the winter to watch the wildlife.

  Steve

Terry Waldron <talwaldron@...> wrote: 
  BW are allowed to let off 25 percent of their visitor moorings to boats who 
wish to stay longer than the limited period (during the Nov to March 
period) - there is a comment somewhere on their website to this affect. They 
MUST however allow sufficient space for visitors to moor for the limited 
period but it is evident in some areas they do actually let more than 25 
percent.

One site where they have (in the past) let more than 25 percent is Thorne - 
we got to the Sanitory Station and Visitor Moorings only to find ONE mooring 
available which was along the wall by the fence and no on the pontoons - you 
can normally get 7 boats in on the moorings and after talking to most of the 
other boats they were (virtually) all there for a long period.

If you find that MORE than 25 percent is taken up by long term moorers then 
you have the right to challenge BW so that you can have a short term visitor 
mooring, but, it may be by the time they have sorted it out it will be time 
for you to move, then your only option is to Complain in accordance with the 
BW Complaints Procedure.

Terry 
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Laurence | 1 Dec 2007 20:15
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CHANNEL FOUR - "BRITAIN UNDER WATER" - MORE FACTS EMERGING

More facts have emerged to the content of the programme scheduled for
Monday evening next.
British Waterways was indeed contacted to help Dispatches on a report
on last Summer's floods. Dispatches took particular interest in
Edgbaston Reservoir (Rotton Park) and were provided with full access
to the reservoir's last two independent inspection reports. Their
interest in this reservoir appears has less to do with safety but
more concerns to do with its proximity to a large built-up area.
This allows them to illustrate in a sensationalist way the results of
a hypothetical dam break. This outcome may not concur with more
informed minds one what would happen given reality and the realistic
damage and water content released.DO THEY THINK A TSUNAMI DOWN THE 
MAIN LINE WILL OCCUR??

Whilst I understand their desire to take this "approach" to boost
ratings figures, it is a regret that their portrayal of Edgbaston
will be in this manner.
My own belief is that the damage would be localised, the water has
TWO escape routes to the wide and deep main line, obvious overflow
points are Hockley and Farmers Bridge in the first instance. Any
device used to destroy the dam would probably create more damage
locally than the water, however that is my opinion.

It is understood a statement from BW to Channel 4 is roughly as
follows:

"Edgbaston Reservoir is routinely inspected by independent experts,
is maintained to modern safety standards and is fully compliant with
the requirements of the Reservoirs Act. The dam structure is in good
condition and, at a 1 in 17,000-year likelihood, has a much lower
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Nick Atty | 2 Dec 2007 15:29
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Re: Re: mooring tendering

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:24:04 -0000, Neil Arlidge wrote:

>There is one school of thought that says we should just let BW get on with 
>it. The waterways will survive in some form or other. With a slight downturn 
>in the economy BW will hang themselves...after all that is what happens when 
>you mess with virtual privatisation, market forces and 200 year old 
>infrastructure...look what happened to Railtrack...and Metronet.
>There is another view (mainly subsribed by Steve Haywood) that BW have made 
>powerful enemies in the govt and that the poor waterways will have to suffer 
>as old scores are settled.
>
><The TNC rant removal tool has removed the rest of this text>
>
>Hopefully Nick Atty will now pop up and present us with a refined version of 
>his rather accurate view on the way BW "works", in a better way than I ever 
>could  :-)

I've only just caught up with this.   I'm not sure which particular of
my points of view you're after at this stage - though honoured by the
comment.

I think I am coming to the view that for the waterways as we love them
to survive a period of downturn is not only inevitable, but essential.
Given the choice between the atmospheric waterways I grew into, and the
sanitised and tarted up ones we are getting (and I'm not arguing against
the occasional central Birmingham here [the destruction of Gas Street
excepted]) I find it hard not to wish for a return to the late 70s and
early 80s.   I am arguing against:

Endless rows of identikit fake-wharehouse-shaped housing on both banks
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Captain Beeky | 2 Dec 2007 16:01
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Re: Re: mooring tendering


On 2 Dec 2007, at 14:29, Nick Atty & Neil Arlidge wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:24:04 -0000, Neil Arlidge wrote:
>
>> There is one school of thought that says we should just let BW get  
>> on with
>> it. The waterways will survive in some form or other. With a slight  
>> downturn
>> in the economy BW will hang themselves...after all that is what  
>> happens when
>> you mess with virtual privatisation, market forces and 200 year old
>> infrastructure...look what happened to Railtrack...and Metronet.
>> There is another view (mainly subsribed by Steve Haywood) that BW  
>> have made
>> powerful enemies in the govt and that the poor waterways will have  
>> to suffer
>> as old scores are settled.
>>
>> <The TNC rant removal tool has removed the rest of this text>
>>
>> Hopefully Nick Atty will now pop up and present us with a refined  
>> version of
>> his rather accurate view on the way BW "works", in a better way  
>> than I ever
>> could  :-)
>
>
> I think I am coming to the view that for the waterways as we love them
> to survive a period of downturn is not only inevitable, but essential.
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Captain Beeky | 2 Dec 2007 16:03
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Re: Re: mooring tendering


On 2 Dec 2007, at 15:01, Captain Beeky wrote:

>
> On 2 Dec 2007, at 14:29, Nick Atty & Neil Arlidge wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:24:04 -0000, Neil Arlidge wrote:
>
> and after some snippery Steve continued  . . .

Ooops sorry it was Nick that continued.

Beeky

 
CHRISTINE MENDAY | 2 Dec 2007 20:46
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Re: Re: Any Masons on Hear

Talking of Speights, Terry' s boat is almost finished and looks immaculate. 
You will never recognise it ! Chris
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Captain Beeky" <captain.beeky@...>
To: <canals-list@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [canals-list] Re: Any Masons on Hear

>
> On 29 Nov 2007, at 15:19, Neil Arlidge wrote
>
>>> Just found this article regarding a Masonic Lodge being formed around
>>> narrow boats and was wondering if anyone is a member?
>>>
>>> http://www.mqmagazine.co.uk/issue-19/p-41.php
>>>
>>> hope the link works
>>>
>>> Brian
>>
>> Is there also a Lodge being formed for narrowboats painted in other
>> makes of
>> paint? :-)
>
> Shhhh . .  or you will encourage a Speight of them !
>
> Beeky
>
>
>
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Captain Beeky | 2 Dec 2007 22:01
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Re: Re: Any Masons on Hear


On 2 Dec 2007, at 19:46, CHRISTINE MENDAY wrote:

> Talking of Speights, Terry' s boat is almost finished and looks  
> immaculate.
> You will never recognise it ! Chris

We were just talking yesterday about "no news" on Arun's new paint.

Thanks for the update. When is the boat due out, when  will we see  
pictures ?

Beeky

 
Terry Streeter | 2 Dec 2007 22:17

Re: Re: Any Masons on Hear

Captain Beeky wrote:
> We were just talking yesterday about "no news" on Arun's new paint.
> 
> Thanks for the update. When is the boat due out, when  will we see  
> pictures ?
> 
> Beeky

She should be finished in the next day or two.  Phil is going to email
me some pictures when it's finished.  I will try to get them up on the
yahoo group picture page.  Cruising will recommence over the Christmas
break when I come back from Belgium.  Not sure of our intended route
yet, probably heading North (although Belgium is quite tempting) :-) -
still very much in the planning stages.

Terry Streeter
NB Arun - Dadford's Shed

 
Neil Arlidge | 2 Dec 2007 22:29
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Re: Re: mooring tendering

Nick Atty wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:24:04 -0000, Neil Arlidge wrote:
>
>> There is one school of thought that says we should just let BW get
>> on with it. The waterways will survive in some form or other. With a
>> slight downturn in the economy BW will hang themselves...after all
>> that is what happens when you mess with virtual privatisation,
>> market forces and 200 year old infrastructure...look what happened
>> to Railtrack...and Metronet.
>> There is another view (mainly subsribed by Steve Haywood) that BW
>> have made powerful enemies in the govt and that the poor waterways
>> will have to suffer as old scores are settled.
>>
>> <The TNC rant removal tool has removed the rest of this text>
>>
>> Hopefully Nick Atty will now pop up and present us with a refined
>> version of his rather accurate view on the way BW "works", in a
>> better way than I ever could  :-)
>
> I've only just caught up with this.   I'm not sure which particular of
> my points of view you're after at this stage - though honoured by the
> comment.
>
> I think I am coming to the view that for the waterways as we love them
> to survive a period of downturn is not only inevitable, but essential.
> Given the choice between the atmospheric waterways I grew into, and
> the sanitised and tarted up ones we are getting (and I'm not arguing
> against the occasional central Birmingham here [the destruction of
> Gas Street excepted]) I find it hard not to wish for a return to the
> late 70s and early 80s.   I am arguing against:
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Neil Arlidge | 2 Dec 2007 22:39
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Re: Re: Any Masons on Hear

Terry Streeter wrote:
> Captain Beeky wrote:
>> We were just talking yesterday about "no news" on Arun's new paint.
>>
>> Thanks for the update. When is the boat due out, when  will we see
>> pictures ?
>>
>> Beeky
>
> She should be finished in the next day or two.  Phil is going to email
> me some pictures when it's finished.  I will try to get them up on the
> yahoo group picture page.  Cruising will recommence over the Christmas
> break when I come back from Belgium.  Not sure of our intended route
> yet, probably heading North (although Belgium is quite tempting) :-) -
> still very much in the planning stages.

Have you contacted Mike Clarke yet????...He will tempt you more!
http://users.skynet.be/sky34301/nb952.html
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