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vja4HimDH | 1 Jun 2009 01:04

Red Rock Canyon State Park

Or how about the Red Rock Canyon State Park, in California. Has  
anyone been there? My oldest son and I stopped at the Red Rock Canyon  
State Park and climbed around for a few hours.

- Riding 4 Life
http://vj4him.blogspot.com/

On May 31, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Jim Foreman wrote:

>    But why visit those places so far away when we have equally  
> interesting and great places here in the US.
>
> The world's largest hand dug well
>
> The Wind Wagon Smith Museum
>
> The world's biggest ball of string and
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> The monument where Knute Rockney died,
> all in Kansas.
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> Or how about the Helium Museum in Amarillo, Texas
> It all about something you can't see, smell or taste.
> It's the closest that something can come to nothing.
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> Or how about the Ghost Lights of Marfa, Texas.
> You can see them most any night but no one has ever
> found what makes them.
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> There are thousands more similar places, all right here at home.
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Ken Steinhoff | 1 Jun 2009 02:44
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Kids on bikes are cute

Disclaimer: this isn't strictly tour-related, although I DID ride my
LHT to the event.

Lake Worth, FL, held a bike rodeo this weekend. It was about five
miles from my house and I was looking for a short ride between rain
drops. After months of drought conditions, we've had about 10 days of
rain.

A few score of kids showed up to get free helmets, free pizza, a
chance to win one of six bikes and to get some quick safety tips and
ride a safety course. (That's pretty much in order of interest, except
that free pizza probably number one.)

I felt sorry for the volunteers who had to try to teach kids who were
too young to know their left from their right (and who, in many cases,
didn't speak English) how to signal.

Check out the little girl in this video who takes Stop signs verrrrry
seriously.

http://www.palmbeachbiketours.com/2009/05/31/lake-worth-fl-bike-rodeo-pro
motes-safety/

I wasn't crazy about how the course was set up. They had volunteers at
the stops and turns, but it would have been more effective if they had
placed them 20 feet or so in advance of the signs. The way it was, the
kids were at wobble speed when the instructors started yelling at them
to signal.

I was surprised at how much emphasis they placed on signaling a stop.
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william shaneyfelt | 1 Jun 2009 03:16
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RE: But why visit those places so far away when we have equally interesting and great places here in the US.


Surprised nobody has mentioned the Grand Canyon!  It is the most spectacula
r place in the world!  (personal opinion, of course)

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Ken Steinhoff | 1 Jun 2009 03:19
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Re: But why visit those places so far away when we have equally interesting and great places here in the US.

I'll beat Jim Foreman to it: The Grand Canyon is just gorges.

On Sun, 31 May 2009 21:16:22 -0400, william shaneyfelt
<awanabug@...> wrote:

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>Surprised nobody has mentioned the Grand Canyon!  It is the most 
spectacula
>r place in the world!  (personal opinion, of course)
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robert clark | 1 Jun 2009 03:41
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trailer tests, list BOB trailer-ists

Have an unused  WTB  Grease-guard  28 hole front hub , bought on
closeout ,  front 28 hole hub .
still new , bought for replacing trailer's  original  'shame quality'
hub, but sold the trailer instead,

so I still have the hub  sell for $35, and even mail it if in lower 48,

its the prefect last forever trailer hub as it has designed in grease
ports for  re-lubrication.
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Mary Shaw | 1 Jun 2009 03:42
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Re: Kids on bikes are cute

Based on the behavior of bicyclists in the college campus area where I live,
someone following you might THINK you were going to simply blow through the
stop sign or red light    :-(

You wouldn't, of course, but drivers see many who do.

Mary shaw

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Ken Steinhoff <ken@...> wrote:

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> I was surprised at how much emphasis they placed on signaling a stop.
> I'll signal that I'm slowing down or stopping if I think someone
> following me wouldn't expect it, but I hardly ever (read "never")
> signal for a traffic control device. After all, what would someone
> following me THINK I was going to do? I am religious to a fault about
> signaling turns.
>
> I

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robert clark | 1 Jun 2009 03:55
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Re: Places to see

Heard "wierd AL Yankovich's  song about the family trip to see "the
largest ball of twine in Minnesota?

a hoot !   something to sing along to,  on that tour to Must sees...
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Ken Steinhoff | 1 Jun 2009 03:56
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Re: Kids on bikes are cute

I knew somebody would point that out.

Somebody who is going to blow the light or sign isn't going to bother
to signal.

I WILL make some unofficial signals. (No, not THAT one.)

If I'm first in line at a stop light and I see someone facing me
getting signaling for a left turn, I'll usually gesture that they can
go before me (assuming I'm going straight).

It might slow me down half a second, the car was probably going to try
to turn in front of me anyway and this way I get a nice wave of
thanks.

Sometimes I'll catch the eye of a driver, point to my chest, then
straight ahead, to indicate that I'm going straight through the
intersection instead of turning.

Not absolutely necessary, but just another way to humanize the
contact. I'll also go out of my way to talk - or at least nod - at
folks who are next to me at a stop sign. Maybe they'll be nicer to the
next two-wheeler they encounter.

On Sun, 31 May 2009 21:42:01 -0400, Mary Shaw <mary.shaw@...>
wrote:

>Based on the behavior of bicyclists in the college campus area where I 
live,
>someone following you might THINK you were going to simply blow through
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Douglas Coulter | 1 Jun 2009 04:42
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hit and run

Hit and run with injury is a felony, the woman who hit me was being
charged with two felonies including drunk driving. Her second drunk
driving offense she was looking at $30,000.00 in legal fees and fines.
If a drunk driver hits you they might often flee because if they stop
they will go to jail. Not a good deal for cyclists because it increases
our chances of being left along some back road bleeding. Sometimes its
hard to prove which car hit a bicycle because auto damage is often
minor.

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phred | 1 Jun 2009 04:51

Re: Pannier Weight


6 lbs each rear pannier, 3 lbs each front 
pannier, 2.5 lbs on the handlebars, another ~ 5 lbs on the top of the rear
 rack
http://www.irelandbybicycle.com/

(plus food weight distributed in about the same ratio)

Rick

At 12:51 PM 5/29/2009, Allan Desmond wrote:
>  hey why leave behind when you can bring it along:)
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>Allan D. Desmond
>702.363.3368
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> > Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:58:02 -0400
> > Subject: Re: Pannier Weight
> > From: dkoloko@...
> > To: hoagy@...
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> > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:16 AM, MH <hoagy@...> wrote:
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