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Roy Bird | 1 Dec 2008 02:18
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Practical cycling

With the increasing economic uncertainties worldwide, now is probably the
best possible time ever to actively promote bicycles as a practical and
cheap alternative to automobiles. I have been actively exploring this for
the better part of 2008. Now, with the ongoing discussions  here about "Rush
hour in Holland" etc., I thought it might be appropriate to share an example
of my recent experiences which  I recently wrote up as an article for my
cycling club. 

http://durhamcycling.com/tccg/?p=258

Unfortunately the original formatting was lost in putting it up on the site,
but although the pictures are a bit small, the basic narrative is intact.

However there are a few larger pictures of my set-ups on my Flickr "Shopper
bikes" set. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/14709138 <at> N05/sets/72157610479405507/

The additional bike examples shown in the "Gallery" can be explored on their
respective websites.

For those always in a hurry, I find that my regular shopping journeys of up
to four kilometres round trip, are quicker by bike. On another journey of
approx 10 kilometres round trip, the presence of bike paths that shave the
distance, my times are comparable to cars  - without undue effort. It's all
been very illuminating and actually enjoyable.

Regards,

Roy
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Harry Moore | 1 Dec 2008 04:39
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Mapping Site

This may be old news but this looks like it has everything for bike touring
maps.
http://www.bikeroutetoaster.com/
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Rod Skeggs | 1 Dec 2008 12:01
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re:Language

I have to agree with you Jim, the most important words to learn in any lang
uage are:
 
One , two, three, four, five, six, seven,eight ,nine and ten
 
How much?
 
Too expensive!
 
Water,please
 
Food,thankyou
 
Where is the toilet
 
You are very beautiful!
 
That will get you along in most countries.
 
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Jim Kersting | 1 Dec 2008 15:40
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Made it across and THANKS

Dear Touring Phreds,

For the past two years I have been reading your e mails and adsorbing the
wisdom from those of you that have toured around the States and elsewhere.
On Oct. 22, 08 I finished my first tour ever (supported) at Wells Beach
Maine after 3700 miles and 10 weeks.

The trip story is at www.c2c4conservation.org

I don¹t know what the next tour will be, but I hope there will be many.

Thanks

Jim Kersting
Canadice, NY
(Finger Lakes area of Western NY)

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Jim Foreman | 1 Dec 2008 16:29
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Re: Made it across and THANKS

Good for you!  Quite an accomplishment and I'm sure you have stories that 
will last you forever.

Jim Foreman
jimfore@...
http://www.JimForeman.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Kersting" <jlkncd@...>
To: <touring@...>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 8:40 AM
Subject: Made it across and THANKS

> Dear Touring Phreds,
>
> For the past two years I have been reading your e mails and adsorbing the
> wisdom from those of you that have toured around the States and elsewhere.
> On Oct. 22, 08 I finished my first tour ever (supported) at Wells Beach
> Maine after 3700 miles and 10 weeks.
>
> The trip story is at www.c2c4conservation.org
>
> I don¹t know what the next tour will be, but I hope there will be many.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim Kersting
> Canadice, NY
> (Finger Lakes area of Western NY)
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christian Oregon | 1 Dec 2008 22:22
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FYI


Hey gang,
I have been looking at a folding bike to take on my next tour (greece)
as the $400.00 cost of transporting my bicycle there and back is hard to ju
stify. Rental are limited and the reviews of others renting bikes over ther
e have not been highly rated. 

I didn't want to get caught bringing a folding bicycle if the airline was g
oing to inflexible and would charge me for a bike folding or not. This is t
he reply I received. I will copy it and carry it with me as we have all had
 our share of agents that change the rules to suit their own whim.

 
chris   
Thank you for contacting the Lufthansa Internet Service Center. If the bicy
cle or other sporting equipment can be folded in order to fit within a suit
case and it falls within the weight and size restrictions for check-in lugg
age then no charge will be required for the sporting equipment. If you have
 any questions about your travel on Lufthansa you may contact our reservati
ons office at 1-800-645-3880. We look forward to serving you online and in 
flight. Thank you for choosing LufthansaChristian Peace can not be achieved
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Mary Shaw | 1 Dec 2008 23:38
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Re: FYI

A relatively recent data point...

this past August (2008) my husband and I took our Bike Friday tandem, packed
in two standard Samsonite suitcases, from Pittsburgh to Amsterdam via
Philadelphia on USAir.   When we checked in the bags in Pittsburgh, the
USAir agent hassled us because one bag was a few ounces over 50 lb, but he
let it go.  Aside from that we had no  problems checking the bike as
luggage.  No one seemed to care what was in the suitcase as long as it was a
standard suitcase and not overweight.

Mary Shaw

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:22 PM, christian Oregon <oregoncycle@...>wrote:

>
> Hey gang,
> I have been looking at a folding bike to take on my next tour (greece)
> as the $400.00 cost of transporting my bicycle there and back is hard to ju
> stify. Rental are limited and the reviews of others renting bikes over ther
> e have not been highly rated.
>
> I didn't want to get caught bringing a folding bicycle if the airline was g
> oing to inflexible and would charge me for a bike folding or not. This is t
> he reply I received. I will copy it and carry it with me as we have all had
>  our share of agents that change the rules to suit their own whim.
>
>
> chris
> Thank you for contacting the Lufthansa Internet Service Center. If the bicy
> cle or other sporting equipment can be folded in order to fit within a suit
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Yvonne & Tom Hart | 1 Dec 2008 23:45

Re: Made it across and THANKS

Jim Kersting wrote, "...finished my first tour ever (supported) at Wells 
Beach
Maine after 3700 miles and 10 weeks."

Good job, Jim!  I enjoyed your report and pictures.  The last page (the 
afterward) about things learned was especially good.  I did a tour in your 
Finger Lakes Region about three years ago and enjoyed it immensely.  We 
stopped at almost every winery to sample the wines.  In my estimation your 
New York wines are vastly underrated.
Tom Hart
Waynesville NC
tomhart2@...
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John Gorentz | 2 Dec 2008 04:21
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Container for food in bear country

I wasn't following too closely, but I believe there was a recent 
discussion of how to handle and store your food in bear country.

There are no bicycles involved in this case, but it may give you some 
ideas for other options.  Especially pay attention to the 
container.  (The bear did.)

http://englishrussia.com/?p=2156

John Gorentz
www.spokesrider.com
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Peter Saint James | 2 Dec 2008 04:45
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Re: FYI


On 1  December2008, at 5:38 PM, Mary Shaw wrote:

> this past August (2008) my husband and I took our Bike Friday  
> tandem, packed
> in two standard Samsonite suitcases, from Pittsburgh to Amsterdam via
> Philadelphia on USAir.   When we checked in the bags in Pittsburgh,  
> the
> USAir agent hassled us because one bag was a few ounces over 50 lb,  
> but he
> let it go.  Aside from that we had no  problems checking the bike as
> luggage.  No one seemed to care what was in the suitcase as long as  
> it was a
> standard suitcase and not overweight.

	There is currently a thread on the Bike Friday list about someone  
who took a folder on USAir and got charged extra for it being a bike  
even though it fit in a acceptable-sized suitcase.   Evidently it  
depends on the ticket agent.

								Peter
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