Michael Dorrington | 1 Feb 19:33 2011
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Re: ManLUG Meeting 26th February 2011

MJ Ray wrote:
> Simon Ward wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 09:03:40PM +0000, Michael Dorrington wrote:
>>> This?
>>> Mail-Followup-To: Manchester GNU/Linux Users
>>> <man-lug@...>
>> Yes, although you won’t often see the Mail-Followup-To header in MUAs.
>> You’re more likely to see it in the To header for mail sent to the
>> man-lug list, assuming you subscribe to it.

The mail Simon sent to the ManLUG list had a To field of just:

To:           MAN-LUG@...

Using the "Linux" command line:
$ $SHELL --version
GNU bash, version 3.2.39(1)-release (i486-pc-linux-gnu)
Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
$ grep --version
GNU grep 2.5.3

Copyright (C) 1988, 1992-2002, 2004, 2005  Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

$ grep GNU manlug.txt
Mail-Followup-To: Manchester GNU/Linux Users
<man-lug@...>

That's it, no other headers with GNU in.
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Michael Dorrington | 1 Feb 20:09 2011
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[Fwd: Re: [MAN-LUG] ShefLUG - February 2011 Meeting]

Do people fancy a release party for Debian Squeeze in Manchester? If not
then people could go to Sheffield, see below. Note that there is a
particular free software reason for celebration of this release as:

Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" to be released with completely free Linux kernel
http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2011/01/#3

Regards,
Mike.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [MAN-LUG] ShefLUG - February 2011 Meeting
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 21:38:24 +0000
From: Richard Ibbotson <richard.ibbotson@...>
Reply-To: richard.ibbotson@...
Organisation: Mostly Disorganised
To: MAN-LUG@...
References: <201101301350.58171.richard.ibbotson@...>

Hi

http://www.debian.org/News/project/2011/02/

Debian Squeeze released at the weekend.  The thought occurs to me that
people in Manchester might not be having a release party this weekend.
These are taking place all over the world.  If you do want to come
over and help us to celebrate the release of Squeeze please do join
in.  Meeting details here...

http://sheflug.org.uk/indexpage/?page_id=69
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Llewyn Máire | 1 Feb 22:02 2011
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Re: [Fwd: Re: [MAN-LUG] ShefLUG - February 2011 Meeting]


i was goining to ask about this actually..... as... well.. I for one...
feeling this is a safe place to say... am very excited bout the new
Debian release...

hence, I would be up for a release party.. and prob won't make it to
sheffield

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On 01/02/11 19:09, Michael Dorrington wrote:
> Do people fancy a release party for Debian Squeeze in Manchester? If not
> then people could go to Sheffield, see below. Note that there is a
> particular free software reason for celebration of this release as:
> 
> Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" to be released with completely free Linux kernel
> http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2011/01/#3
> 
> Regards,
> Mike.
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [MAN-LUG] ShefLUG - February 2011 Meeting
> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 21:38:24 +0000
> From: Richard Ibbotson <richard.ibbotson@...>
> Reply-To: richard.ibbotson@...
> Organisation: Mostly Disorganised
> To: MAN-LUG@...
> References: <201101301350.58171.richard.ibbotson@...>
> 
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Michael Dorrington | 1 Feb 23:00 2011
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Update: Helping Free Software by Beta Testing

Michael Dorrington wrote:
[snip]
> LibreOffice 3.3 Release Candidate:
> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
> Due to concerns about the stewardship OpenOffice.org, it has been forked
> as LibreOffice. It has lots of new features and fixes:
> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/new-features/

LibreOffice 3.3 has been released!

LibreOffice 3.3 Final (2011-01-25)
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/

And Firefox 4 is close to release:
http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/beta/

Mike.
Simon Ward | 1 Feb 23:15 2011
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Re: ManLUG Meeting 26th February 2011

On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 06:33:15PM +0000, Michael Dorrington wrote:
> >> Yes, although you won’t often see the Mail-Followup-To header in MUAs.
> >> You’re more likely to see it in the To header for mail sent to the
> >> man-lug list, assuming you subscribe to it.

The Mail-Followup-To header is set by my MUA, Mutt, by default, for
lists I am subscribed to.  I think it serves a different, but
complementary purpose to List-Post, but I don’t think the debate needs
re‐hashing.  Just a google for Mail-Followup-To will find D. J.
Bernstein’s page on it, and a further search for the same on the IETF
lists will find the discussion about the draft.

> The mail Simon sent to the ManLUG list had a To field of just:
> 
> To:           MAN-LUG@...

This may well have been re‐written, boo.

> There isn't List-Post header in Simon's ManLUG email.

ListServ, a proprietary mailing list software that is now mandated by
Manchester Universit, does not and does not intend to support various
List-* headers.  I don’t particularly like proprietary software vendors,
but when they can’t even be arsed to implement open standards my
feelings involve words I won’t repeat on this list.

Simon
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simple system that works.—John Gall
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Tim Dobson | 2 Feb 00:58 2011
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Fwd: [GeekUp] New standards.next event: Get stylish with CSS3, 23rd March 2011

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [GeekUp] New standards.next event: Get stylish with CSS3, 23rd
March 2011
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:50:15 +0000
From: Chris Mills <chrisdavidmills@...>
Reply-To: geekup@...
To: geekup@...

Hey there,

Today we're announcing a new standards.next event, "Get stylish with
CSS3", which we're running at Madlab on Edge Street in Manchester. See
http://standards-next.org/ for more details and signup. Speakers
include my good self, Jake Smith from JP74, Mike Byrne from Fudge, and
my colleague Patrick Lauke. We'll be covering a wide range of topics,
including web fonts, responsive UIs with animations, transitions,
etc., optimizing layouts for different devices, and more.

Chris

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Dave Page | 2 Feb 11:50 2011
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Fwd: North West England Perl Mongers - Social (Manchester) - Thursday 17th February 2011

I figure this social event in a fortnight might be of interest to other
free software enthusiasts in Manchester:

----- Forwarded message from Ian Norton <i.d.norton@...> -----

List-Subscribe: <http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/northwestengland.pm>,
	<mailto:northwestengland.pm-request@...?subject=subscribe>

Hi All,

It's time for the monthly North West England Perl Mongers meeting announcement!

This months North West England Perl Mongers social meeting will again
be at The Salisbury, 2 Wakefield Street, Manchester, M1 5NE
(http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/48/480/) from around 19:00.
As the pub is right next to Oxford Road station there's not far to
stumble for the train!  Someone will be carrying a Pingu if you're
trying to find us!.

Details as always on our website at http://northwestengland.pm.org/meetings.html

Remember, North West England Perl Mongers covers a large geographical
area!  If you want us to bring the camel and penguin to your area and
you can organise a venue for approximately twenty people, please do
let me know.

Please forward this email to friends, colleagues or lists that you
think might be interested.

Regards, Ian.
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Llewyn Máire | 2 Feb 16:49 2011
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12 F/LOSS books for free download


Thought ya'll might appreciate this:

http://www.linuxaria.com/article/12-libri-open-source?lang=en

Some classics like 'The Cathedral and the Bazarr' and 'Free as in
Freedom'.... as well as some good intro to GNU/Linux books...

sharing = culture

llewyn
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Michael Dorrington | 4 Feb 10:10 2011
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Administrative and Social Meeting - Monday, 7th February 2011


The February 2011 administrative meeting will be on the FIRST Monday of
the month (not the usual second Monday due to closeness to 3rd Tuesday)
at the usual time and place:

* Date: Monday, 7th February 2011
* Time: 19:00 for 19:30
* Location: The Waterhouse
            67-71 Princess Street
            M2 4EG
            http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-waterhouse

The meeting is open to everyone and normally lasts about an hour. At the
meeting we review what we've done, assess where we are and plan what to
do. This is your opportunity to get involved. We welcome new people
wanting to help the group achieve its goals.

We stay around for a social meet up afterwards, so it's a good
opportunity to meet up with people and have a chat.

Minutes from last meeting which was held on 12th April 2010 are at
http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Manchester/2010-04-12/Minutes

The Agenda for this meeting will be at
http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Manchester/2011-02-07
There currently aren't any items listed there but, trust me, we have
lots to discuss. I will get the agenda filled out this weekend but this
is a heads up for the meeting.

If you have something you'd like included in the Agenda of the meeting
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Paul Waring | 5 Feb 17:21 2011
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Fri 18 Feb: SushiBeer geek social

On Friday 18th February a number of us from various geek groups will be 
going for a 'SushiBeer' social at New Samsi on Whitworth Street. We'll 
be meeting outside the restaurant just before 8pm and going straight in 
for a meal. The cost of the meal/drinks will probably be in the region 
of £25-30 per head.

http://www.samsi.co.uk/samsi-manchester.htm

The social is open to everyone, but you must email me if you are 
planning to attend (and if you're bringing anyone else) by Wednesday 
16th February so that I can book a table for the correct number.

Hope to see you there!

Paul

P.S. You can view details of all the upcoming socials at: 
http://www.currybeer.com

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Gmane